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  (07:00:15 PM) Garbee has changed the topic to: Nominate us for a Shorty Award - http://cat5.tv/shorty | Watch the current show - http://play.cat5.tv | An hour of learnin' starts now!
  (07:00:21 PM) SammySez: we are exhausted here
  (07:00:23 PM) Garbee: I can sleep now..
  (07:00:32 PM) ajamison5579: Robbief you chose to use the windows XP theme in your image on the error page did you
  (07:00:39 PM) _Jot_: it's really tiring to walk around on wooden shoes all day, if they don't fit properly
  (07:00:50 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, You made it JUST in time.
  (07:01:00 PM) jafarm: Break the snooze button on Garbee's alarm clock!!
  (07:01:09 PM) Angelique [464e9d25@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.78.157.37] entered the room.
  (07:01:13 PM) Garbee: jafarm, I don't have an alarm clock.
  (07:01:22 PM) SammySez: Bekah: they aren't "conspiracies" when they openly admit that is what they are doing ;)
  (07:01:28 PM) Garbee: I keep the topic updated... I don't tweet it.
  (07:01:28 PM) jafarm: Ooops
  (07:01:33 PM) chrisreich: EricKidd - heard any good jokes lately? :-) (Seriously, you delivered that very well)
  (07:01:43 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, RobbieF, did you know you can eat blackberries?
  (07:02:08 PM) agamotto: _Jot_- That isn't news, I eat them somewhat regularly
  (07:02:09 PM) Garbee: The first 10 minutes, spent tweeting.
  (07:02:21 PM) EightMilesFromTJ: My Palm
  (07:02:36 PM) mathman47 [43b843ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.184.67.239] entered the room.
  (07:02:55 PM) Guest_4619 [43e930ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.233.48.255] entered the room.
  (07:03:07 PM) chrisreich: "that's SO eleven seconds ago"
  (07:03:15 PM) Garbee: Tweeting, so difficult.
  (07:03:15 PM) agamotto: Well, being dead would certainly be different
  (07:03:29 PM) SammySez: it took him 10 minutes to type it in. When he started typing, the show hadn't started yet. :)
  (07:03:39 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, you can turn the sound off of that thing, you know?
  (07:03:39 PM) u-al [47c77954@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.199.121.84] entered the room.
  (07:03:40 PM) Michaeliowa [~michael@71-32-163-87.desm.qwest.net] entered the room.
  (07:03:55 PM) mathman47: A little too much bass tonight.
  (07:04:00 PM) Guest_4619: Hi to all
  (07:04:04 PM) Garbee: mathman47, Bass in what?
  (07:04:08 PM) _Jot_: hi Guest
  (07:04:23 PM) _Jot_: to all the guests, if you like to change your name, you can type /nick newnickname where newnickname is your new nickname
  (07:04:25 PM) mathman47: The voices
  (07:04:28 PM) Garbee: RobbieF, Great response.. Instagram. That is WHY they are going Chp. 11.
  (07:04:31 PM) gpop7 [6393c588@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.147.197.136] entered the room.
  (07:04:34 PM) jafarm: Eric has the announcer voice working tonite
  (07:04:42 PM) Garbee: mathman47, There isn't any bass. It is all mono sound.
  (07:04:51 PM) agamotto: I was still using a 110 camera until I couldn't find film for it anymore...
  (07:04:58 PM) Garbee: Poor DATA!
  (07:05:13 PM) SammySez: Eric might have a head cold. He was sniffling a lot
  (07:05:18 PM) agamotto: humaniform artificial life... no, we do not currently have androids
  (07:05:25 PM) chrisreich: I would still use 620 film if I could find it reasonably priced.
  (07:05:42 PM) agamotto: Cyborg?
  (07:05:51 PM) Valpenone: lol
  (07:05:56 PM) Raffer: terminator
  (07:05:59 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, You sounded so scared.
  (07:06:01 PM) _Jot_: Bekah, I am sorry you had to see that
  (07:06:07 PM) GregInTexas: RobbieF is an Android and he must work for Google
  (07:06:07 PM) mathman47: I have 3 rolls of 110 if anyone wants it.
  (07:06:21 PM) GoodGuy [~goodguy98@c-98-209-101-142.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] entered the room.
  (07:06:26 PM) _Jot_: Bekah, he cut up his arm again, so all his internal hardware was showing, now you're going to have to sew it all up again
  (07:06:30 PM) Guest_4619: is anybody going to buy the new Apple iPad 3 ?
  (07:06:32 PM) Garbee: It is a very valid point.
  (07:06:38 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Canadian, with a cold, in January? Never!
  (07:06:40 PM) Garbee: ^^ Erics point.
  (07:06:51 PM) SammySez: I think I saw an old car battery floating around in there
  (07:06:52 PM) GoodGuy: It isn't out yet, is it?
  (07:06:55 PM) Michaeliowa: hi RobbieF and EricKidd :)
  (07:06:58 PM) jafarm: No Ipad 3 for me I'll stick with my Android tablets
  (07:06:58 PM) invinciblemutant: Thanks RObbieF
  (07:07:02 PM) chrisreich: I want to know if RobbieF has any beer-making secrets sometime
  (07:07:05 PM) Guest_4619: Not yet
  (07:07:10 PM) invinciblemutant: It is my festival !!!
  (07:07:27 PM) agamotto: shen-shi shen-shi
  (07:07:28 PM) Guest_4619: But soon maybe March
  (07:07:30 PM) Bekah: _Jot_ I'm just glad I don't have to keep his true identity a secret anymore. LOL
  (07:07:31 PM) chrisreich: I was in China at new year once. VERY. EFFIN'. LOUD.
  (07:07:37 PM) spideyman [415c9045@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.92.144.69] entered the room.
  (07:08:17 PM) Garbee: Wait... This counts as "top-quality" in podcasts? How much crap is out there?
  (07:08:20 PM) invinciblemutant: agomotto, what are you trygint o say
  (07:08:22 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, don't forget you can tell him to send a postcard
  (07:08:23 PM) Guest_4619: Macworld is this week
  (07:08:25 PM) agamotto: SA? Please, even compared to America, their internet access is expensive!
  (07:08:29 PM) ajamison5579: Its Hot with a chance of Lion Attack
  (07:08:53 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, The best co-hosts have beards.
  (07:08:59 PM) agamotto: Garbee- Plenty... check out Backyard Wrestling
  (07:09:20 PM) Garbee: agamotto, I'm so not going there.
  (07:09:21 PM) GoodGuy: Lori Leland is one of my fav HSN hosts
  (07:09:35 PM) chrisreich: Garbee, I favor the pretty co-hosts, but Eric is a nice guy too
  (07:09:36 PM) _Jot_: Garbee, now all the girls will show up with beards!
  (07:09:53 PM) troy74: stupid tims
  (07:09:54 PM) mathman47: Large is now medium, isn't it?
  (07:09:54 PM) agamotto: I favor on-air talent that can speak and read coherently
  (07:09:59 PM) Garbee: _Jot_, I'm trying to see that.
  (07:10:09 PM) troy74: the coffee to doughnut ratio is all wrong now
  (07:10:09 PM) agamotto: mathman47- in many areas, yes
  (07:10:15 PM) chrisreich: good point, agamotto
  (07:10:19 PM) Garbee: RobbieF, CHUG CHUG CHUG!
  (07:10:38 PM) _Jot_: I wonder if Robbie takes a drink every time he mispronounces something
  (07:10:49 PM) invinciblemutant: mobile is a bit to long to type
  (07:10:56 PM) Garbee: No, just every time he is about to due to his cough.
  (07:10:56 PM) invinciblemutant: m should be common RobbieF
  (07:10:57 PM) chrisreich: That's our game, _Jot_
  (07:11:00 PM) mathman47: agamotto - I read the London Free Press this am. Good article about Tim's.
  (07:11:14 PM) invinciblemutant: why not have the m.cat5.tv ready?
  (07:11:28 PM) jafarm: Is it regular tea with Peppermint Scnaaps??
  (07:11:29 PM) agamotto: I am enjoying a nice pinot grigio this evening
  (07:11:42 PM) jafarm: Beer here!!
  (07:11:42 PM) smittysmit [4ce2303b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.226.48.59] entered the room.
  (07:11:43 PM) Garbee: mobile is not long to type, it is much shorter than, 43jfaJ980u5jfIJdz{}32rjijfsijFSDLO , and easier to remember.
  (07:11:45 PM) mathman47: Cherry Coke here in Chicago.
  (07:11:56 PM) agamotto: mathman47- cool. good sight, good people.
  (07:12:05 PM) _Jot_: Garbee! Stop revealing my password everywhere!
  (07:12:13 PM) invinciblemutant: i think m is a usual sub domain for mobile sites
  (07:12:16 PM) chrisreich: I was enjoying my good ol' American bourbon earlier today. To help control my carpal tunnel pain. It's bad today.
  (07:12:18 PM) Guest_4122: Liking the Dwight hairdo on Eric
  (07:12:21 PM) pyrosrock [734084ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.115.64.132.238] entered the room.
  (07:12:24 PM) agamotto: k, if you are in Japan
  (07:12:28 PM) Garbee: invinciblemutant, It depends on the site and how short they want to get.
  (07:12:35 PM) pyrosrock: miss much?
  (07:12:40 PM) Garbee: I prefer mobile for things I am building myself.
  (07:12:49 PM) Garbee: I may use m later on for something that isn't public.
  (07:12:54 PM) _Jot_: Garbee, not a lot, and you can watch it back later, today will be human powered devices
  (07:12:56 PM) smittysmit: Hello all...
  (07:12:59 PM) SammySez: papercuts on a "web" between your fingers is painful
  (07:13:01 PM) _Jot_: sorry, that was pyrosrock
  (07:13:01 PM) invinciblemutant: my point is that why not having both for us RobbieF?
  (07:13:08 PM) agamotto: I use mobile versions of sites to cut down on the eye-clutter.
  (07:13:08 PM) invinciblemutant: m.cat5.tv
  (07:13:15 PM) Garbee: He could have m point to mobile.
  (07:13:22 PM) Garbee: He does like his forwards.
  (07:13:57 PM) invinciblemutant: yea...
  (07:14:06 PM) Garbee: All my cat5 email does is forward.
  (07:14:13 PM) Garbee: It won't save anything.
  (07:14:23 PM) invinciblemutant: that cures fat thumb syndrome
  (07:14:28 PM) Garbee: all my stuff gets moved into some hidden "old" folder.
  (07:14:31 PM) _Jot_: category 5 never goes backward
  (07:14:56 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, 100 points is nothing to me.
  (07:14:56 PM) GregInTexas: I need to send a postcard ... snail mail, do I even remember how to do that?
  (07:15:00 PM) spideyman: the mobile stream works awesome on my iphone 3gs
  (07:15:02 PM) Guest_4122: Viewer points that do..... what now?
  (07:15:15 PM) _Jot_: Guest_4122, you can win medals, and other things with them
  (07:15:19 PM) SammySez: perhaps you can add some official Cat5 mittens to your swag store for point redemption
  (07:15:36 PM) Guest_4122: only 10 BIILLION points required
  (07:15:43 PM) GoodGuy: No USB Rubber Duckies for sale?
  (07:15:44 PM) Guest_4122: and you can get a cat 5 sticker
  (07:15:50 PM) _Jot_: nah, 10 billion was last year, it's 20 billion this year
  (07:15:54 PM) agamotto: Tickets to odd Canadian yodelling festivals... First Nations Opera recitals....
  (07:16:02 PM) Garbee: Guest_4122, More stuff will come along later using points, such as entries into drawings and such.
  (07:16:44 PM) agamotto: Actors?
  (07:16:45 PM) SammySez: a Cat5 hockey puck "from Ontario" I think is entirely appropriate as well
  (07:17:00 PM) agamotto: Wouldn't 'Presenters' be more appropriate?
  (07:17:10 PM) Garbee: Keyword "legitimate".
  (07:17:28 PM) _Jot_: actors, presenters, amateurs, autocue-readers, etc
  (07:17:49 PM) invinciblemutant: MSN has its own sync right?
  (07:17:54 PM) GoodGuy: I have now, but haven't tried the peer-2-peer
  (07:17:59 PM) Garbee: invinciblemutant, Sync for what?
  (07:18:02 PM) agamotto: Would this goodsync thing allow you to migrate stuff from an XP system to Win7?
  (07:18:17 PM) Garbee: MS has Live Sync (from Live Mesh Beta)
  (07:18:17 PM) GoodGuy: I would have to give my son a copy
  (07:18:20 PM) invinciblemutant: files sync between computers
  (07:18:29 PM) Garbee: Only works within Windows OS though, but works great.
  (07:18:31 PM) Guest_4122: eric looks sad
  (07:18:34 PM) agamotto: Ahh, I see.
  (07:18:36 PM) Guest_4122: Robbie needs to give him a hug
  (07:18:45 PM) agamotto: "Oh, Mary!!!"
  (07:18:45 PM) jafarm: Drop Box or Sugar Sync will sync between 2 pcs
  (07:18:46 PM) Garbee: RobbieF, Make a Star Trek reference I can get!
  (07:18:51 PM) invinciblemutant: so that once you have a file created on pc in the office, it will be made available when you are home
  (07:18:59 PM) GoodGuy: I bought the desktop and portable version, but I use only the desktop currently
  (07:19:03 PM) agamotto: RobbieF- "Oh, Mary!!!"
  (07:19:07 PM) Guest_4424 [ae109514@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.16.149.20] entered the room.
  (07:19:09 PM) Guest_4619: Eric Kidd How do you link computers togeather to work as one. ? Distriputive computing. May not be spelled right.
  (07:19:14 PM) mathman47: Should be very good Northern Lights tonight due to large CME that hist this AM.
  (07:19:24 PM) mathman47: *hit
  (07:19:27 PM) Michaeliowa: GoodGuy: will i work on webos to?
  (07:19:30 PM) GoodGuy: Distributive
  (07:19:33 PM) agamotto: Guest_4619- Distributive?
  (07:19:48 PM) invinciblemutant: i am using dropbox too, just that the free service has limited space..:(
  (07:19:50 PM) _Jot_: I thought it was called 'networking'
  (07:19:55 PM) GoodGuy: I believe it is only Windows
  (07:19:55 PM) calhydro: Robbie: I have tried a number of Bluetooth Devices with Using Ubuntu 11.10, but I'm unable to get the Bluetooth File Sharing to work with my android phone. They show devices paired but not connected and when I try to a transfer file I get an error 13 message permission denied.
  (07:20:05 PM) Guest_7853 [18900a0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.144.10.15] entered the room.
  (07:20:22 PM) GoodGuy: Dropbox uses a middleman and has access to user data I would guess
  (07:20:26 PM) agamotto: hmmm, I have never had a permission denied problem with Bluetooth
  (07:20:26 PM) Guest_4122: Hes bringing up cheese?
  (07:20:36 PM) _Jot_: calhydro, it may be that your android device doesn't support bluetooth device sharing
  (07:20:40 PM) _Jot_: file*
  (07:20:55 PM) GoodGuy: GoodSync should be direct peer-2-peer according to their docs
  (07:20:55 PM) Guest_4122: your camera is detecting cheese?
  (07:20:57 PM) pyrosrock: calhydro i found that syncing is unnessary just say send file
  (07:21:04 PM) Guest_4122: what the.......
  (07:21:20 PM) _Jot_: Guest_4122, he also uses mice with his computer
  (07:21:22 PM) agamotto: pyrosrock- yes, it should 'auto-negotiate.'
  (07:21:30 PM) Guest_4122: EGAD YOU DONT SAY
  (07:21:33 PM) calhydro: I'm dual boot ubuntu and win 7 it works under win7
  (07:22:02 PM) jafarm: Robbie, I need help in creating files in the /etc/skel directory to allow me to create a regular user on Backtrack 5 R1 GNOME version. Since you've used the OS you understand why there is only root access as delivered. The instructions I've seen are for one of the BT 4 versions and don't apply.
  (07:22:04 PM) GregInTexas: I forget what I had to do to get my androids working with bluetooth ... and now I almost exclusively use ADB
  (07:22:06 PM) _Jot_: guest_4122, that's why the computer has problems, cause the camera eats the cheese, and there's none left for the mice
  (07:22:09 PM) GoodGuy: I saw today that Tonido plug has a software version.. free and a pro one that costs
  (07:22:15 PM) agamotto: hmmm, interesting... as a joke, have you tried running the process as SU?
  (07:22:19 PM) Garbee: calhydro, Check here for updates. Bug in the system. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obexd/+bug/872044
  (07:22:37 PM) pyrosrock: calhydro i found coz its so much quicker i just use USB
  (07:22:37 PM) Guest_4122: it all makes sense now Jot
  (07:22:49 PM) agamotto: V4L can be very nice
  (07:23:00 PM) ***GoodGuy wants to use my Pogoplug as a Samba share, but their writeups are clear as mud
  (07:23:01 PM) agamotto: Linux Mint 12
  (07:23:05 PM) Garbee: You compile Gnome 2.
  (07:23:08 PM) calhydro: Thanks I give a try
  (07:23:09 PM) GoodGuy: Over my head Linux wise
  (07:23:36 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- That would make a great walk-through for Robbie to present
  (07:23:54 PM) pyrosrock: GoodGuy i dont know that u can unless they have changed it recently
  (07:23:57 PM) GoodGuy: I'll second that
  (07:23:58 PM) Guest_3936: Linux Mint 12 Cinamon
  (07:23:59 PM) Garbee: calhydro, When you plug in via a cable, it is JUST like a flash drive, since that is basically all it is.
  (07:24:02 PM) agamotto: frippery- heheheeh
  (07:24:16 PM) GregInTexas: anyone know how to tell if selinux is running?
  (07:24:25 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, What OS?
  (07:24:30 PM) _Jot_: if the computer is off, then it isn't running GregInTexas
  (07:24:38 PM) GoodGuy: They used to use something called OpenPogo.. later Plugapps.. now seems to be ArchLinux ARM
  (07:24:43 PM) GregInTexas: ubuntu 11.10 server edition
  (07:24:49 PM) Guest_4619 left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
  (07:24:55 PM) pyrosrock: calhydro just check on ur phone its set to memery card access
  (07:24:57 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, No. Ubuntu does not use SeLinux by default. SO unless you installed it.
  (07:25:04 PM) SammySez: watched about half of Gnomeo and Juliet. WAY too much Elton John in it!
  (07:25:05 PM) Garbee: Or someone else installed it without you knowing.
  (07:25:09 PM) pyrosrock: calhydro when u plug it in
  (07:25:11 PM) GregInTexas: hmmm I didn't ...
  (07:25:22 PM) GoodGuy: also other posts mention still another Linux addon
  (07:25:37 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, Or try sestatus
  (07:25:41 PM) Scorpio55: https://extensions.gnome.org/
  (07:25:41 PM) Garbee: ^^ command
  (07:25:48 PM) GregInTexas: I'm port forwarding port 80 and I get nothing outside the local network
  (07:26:06 PM) GoodGuy: Optware
  (07:26:08 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, Check firewall and/or iptables.
  (07:26:21 PM) _Jot_: oh my god, RobbieF is going to break the sound
  (07:26:22 PM) SammySez: Garbee: you mentioned "mc" earlier today. I installed it and used for first time - pretty cool
  (07:26:25 PM) invinciblemutant: you need honey lemon drink robbieF
  (07:26:42 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Midnight Commander?
  (07:26:43 PM) GoodGuy: Mention Cloud to Rachael
  (07:26:46 PM) GregInTexas: well, isn't selinux the firewall?
  (07:26:46 PM) Garbee: agamotto, Yes.
  (07:26:52 PM) agamotto: Garbee- love it
  (07:26:57 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, don't touch that mixer! The sound is just right right now
  (07:27:00 PM) GregInTexas: I mean ... the firewall on the router looks correct
  (07:27:04 PM) jafarm: http:///a.b.c:port that 80 is forwarded to
  (07:27:06 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, No. Selinux is a kernel wrapper for improved security of the kernel. It may have a firewall, but I doubt it.
  (07:27:13 PM) Guest_7853: I tried on mobile device to get to mobile.category5.tv and usually works ok but not working for me tonight.
  (07:27:26 PM) SammySez: agamotto - I think so. It is pretty interesting.
  (07:27:42 PM) GregInTexas: so what is the firewall called?
  (07:27:46 PM) agamotto: SElinux is an architecture that 'hardens' your install to be a bit more paranoid about interfacing with other devices/systems.
  (07:27:58 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, ufw
  (07:28:15 PM) jafarm: I use Firestarter as my firewall though there is an included firewall called UFW which I don't know much about
  (07:28:22 PM) SammySez: ufw is awesome, quick and dirty
  (07:28:23 PM) Garbee: SeLinux is also good to get annoying messages about how your system is "bad" even though it functions fine.
  (07:28:34 PM) agamotto: Why is Eric playing Patsy Cline's guitar?
  (07:28:37 PM) pyrosrock: RobbieF no sound?
  (07:28:39 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, don't forget to put a link to that guitair stuff in the shownotes
  (07:28:49 PM) ajamison5579: EricKidd just say it was your way of supporting Breast Cancer Awareness
  (07:28:53 PM) pyrosrock: RobbieF from the com
  (07:28:56 PM) Guest_4122: jot is is jot or yot
  (07:29:22 PM) agamotto: Yet another 'ribbon' campaign I am tired of seeing everywhere.
  (07:29:25 PM) RobbieF: what's that pyrosrock?
  (07:29:35 PM) Garbee: Sound is fine for me.
  (07:29:40 PM) Guest_3469 [4afece87@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.254.206.135] entered the room.
  (07:29:55 PM) pyrosrock: RobbieF dont u get sound from ur computer
  (07:30:01 PM) pyrosrock: ?
  (07:30:02 PM) agamotto: Garbee- I think they were referring to the mini-vid of Eric playing
  (07:30:05 PM) SammySez: agamotto: a lot of people "talk", even more "ignore", but seldom actually "do" anything
  (07:30:20 PM) Garbee: Oh... there wasn't supposed to be audio.
  (07:30:21 PM) jafarm: Depends on if he's from a country with a Germanic language for Jot r yot. Johan in Sweden is pronounced Yohan
  (07:30:44 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, whatever you want, Jot and Jot is fine too
  (07:30:54 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, It is "ba`t".
  (07:30:55 PM) _Jot_: http://live.cat5.tv/bsp for backstagepass people
  (07:30:59 PM) jafarm: Netherlands = Yot
  (07:31:03 PM) Garbee: I voted.
  (07:31:12 PM) chrisreich: It's "HOT"
  (07:31:21 PM) chrisreich: like in espanol
  (07:31:31 PM) pyrosrock: omg add
  (07:31:46 PM) Guest_4840 left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
  (07:31:57 PM) maxwell6307: jot what is it ?
  (07:31:58 PM) GoodGuy: I used to chat with a lady who said she was a National Pistol champ at one time
  (07:32:03 PM) _Jot_: jot is short for joshua, written down (so jot down) and avarius comes from avatar
  (07:32:11 PM) jafarm: Guess Robbie never watches swedish or norwegian movies in the native language LOL
  (07:32:14 PM) Christy [ae711846@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.113.24.70] entered the room.
  (07:32:26 PM) GoodGuy: Hi Christy
  (07:32:30 PM) _Jot_: hi Christy
  (07:32:37 PM) agamotto: OUR Christy?
  (07:32:39 PM) Garbee: Christy, .... NO weather!
  (07:32:41 PM) Christy: Hey, Hiiiiiii
  (07:32:52 PM) agamotto: wee fee wee fee
  (07:32:55 PM) _Jot_: it's cold here Christy, but now that you're here, the weather is a lot warmer
  (07:33:00 PM) Christy: It's very cold outside
  (07:33:00 PM) SammySez: suuuuuuure. I am sure they'll jump right on that too
  (07:33:09 PM) Christy: my agamotto!
  (07:33:17 PM) _Jot_: it's actually freezing here, -3c
  (07:33:22 PM) Christy: GoodGuy, Hi!
  (07:33:24 PM) agamotto: It wasn't too bad around here, sunny and around 3C
  (07:33:27 PM) Guest_4122: oh hey christy
  (07:33:33 PM) agamotto: hahahahahaahahahahah
  (07:33:39 PM) mathman47: Hi Christy, from your #1 Fan
  (07:33:42 PM) jafarm: Its about 25C here in South Florida
  (07:33:43 PM) Christy: Hi Guest_4122 ha ha
  (07:33:47 PM) chrisreich: Hi Christy, (you heartbreaker)
  (07:33:51 PM) GWG: Did I hear Christy?
  (07:33:53 PM) Christy: Mathman!! miss you
  (07:33:58 PM) GWG: I'm not watching
  (07:33:58 PM) agamotto: I did things as a teen that the statute of limitation just expired on a few years ago...
  (07:33:59 PM) GWG: At work
  (07:34:01 PM) GWG: Just lurking
  (07:34:02 PM) Garbee: RobbieF, That was before things could actually be stored permanently. Everything was stored in RAM and deleted daily.
  (07:34:08 PM) Valpenone: -7 in south sweden
  (07:34:09 PM) invinciblemutant: robbief could be wrong, u might regret you havent said 'i love you' to one you love!!!
  (07:34:17 PM) Christy: YAY jafarm, wow, 25 in South FLorida yay
  (07:34:24 PM) GWG: It is 47 degree F in NYC
  (07:34:25 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, Where does he live?
  (07:34:25 PM) Christy: Chris Reich, Hello!!!
  (07:34:28 PM) SammySez: but people continue to charge forward with social media, then wonder why
  (07:34:42 PM) Bekah: Hi Christy!
  (07:34:51 PM) Guest_4122: see how popular you are
  (07:34:52 PM) jafarm: Whatever converts to 80 or so in F
  (07:34:56 PM) pyrosrock: RobbieF i like the idea!
  (07:34:58 PM) Guest_4122: everyones forgotten the show
  (07:35:06 PM) GoodGuy: Sexting is a big problem
  (07:35:07 PM) mathman47: 30F in Chicago
  (07:35:10 PM) Scorpio55: Christy sun bathing weather here in UK 9c @ 00:35
  (07:35:12 PM) agamotto: I only use social media for things I am willing to share. If I want it private, I don't share it with anyone outside my skull.
  (07:35:14 PM) Bekah: inviciblemutant good point! :)
  (07:35:16 PM) agamotto: hahaahahahahah
  (07:35:21 PM) Garbee: RobbieF, We don't look at photo's before posting. The whole camera SD card just goes straight up, then people get tagged.
  (07:35:22 PM) _Jot_: thats an amazing likeness of RobbieF, EricKidd
  (07:35:27 PM) jafarm: I'd steal that pic Eric
  (07:35:27 PM) SammySez: ummmmm.... ok.
  (07:35:56 PM) Christy: Wow, Jot - we were talking about coming to Holland, you'd better warm it up!
  (07:35:57 PM) agamotto: Why don't they just jam mobile traffic during the event?
  (07:36:15 PM) jafarm: Just to tag a few of my FB friends who can take a joke
  (07:36:30 PM) _Jot_: Christy, I'll work on it, may take a few months though, and if you're watching the show (and watched last week) then maybe you can help me with my problem :)
  (07:36:36 PM) Christy: Scorpio, wow, balmy!!!
  (07:36:48 PM) Christy: Jot, what's your problem?
  (07:36:55 PM) Garbee: Ustream ads in BSP are just getting annoying.
  (07:37:05 PM) Christy: Mathman, that's not very warm.
  (07:37:09 PM) _Jot_: Christy, I bought a new screen, and now my table isn't big enough, if I move the mouse, I can't get to the right of the screen
  (07:37:14 PM) agamotto: freeze-frame
  (07:37:24 PM) jafarm: J Geils Band
  (07:37:26 PM) _Jot_: Christy, and Eric/Robbie told me I should get some friends to move the desk if that happened, so I have more space
  (07:37:28 PM) Christy: @GWG you're warmer than I am
  (07:37:34 PM) Christy: Bekah, HIII!
  (07:37:40 PM) GoodGuy: Use Firefox with the Adblock extension Garbee .. no ads here
  (07:37:43 PM) pyrosrock: wow just me feed gone haywire?
  (07:37:53 PM) Christy: Guest_4122 I'm lovin' the love
  (07:37:58 PM) GoodGuy: Someone taught me that awhile back in this room
  (07:37:59 PM) Garbee: GoodGuy, I want the service to be paid for... and that isn't very good of you.
  (07:38:02 PM) agamotto: justin died on me
  (07:38:03 PM) Christy: jafarm wow
  (07:38:07 PM) SammySez: Ghostery is a great addin as well
  (07:38:09 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, I want to see you cranking!
  (07:38:20 PM) pyrosrock: mabie just that camera
  (07:38:27 PM) mathman47: Christy - where are you?
  (07:38:30 PM) _Jot_: agamotto, it's still working here, sorry
  (07:38:37 PM) Christy: Jot - book on your lap works
  (07:38:42 PM) GoodGuy: If you arent going to buy items from the ad, what point does it serve
  (07:38:48 PM) agamotto: Aaaannddd, it just came back
  (07:38:49 PM) Christy: Jot that's why I'm coming to Holland
  (07:39:01 PM) GoodGuy: Annoy the consumer doesnt make me want to buy
  (07:39:03 PM) _Jot_: Christy, you're smarterer than me!
  (07:39:05 PM) maxwell6307: i still have one that shoots the picture out the bottom
  (07:39:08 PM) Christy: agamotto funeral for justin
  (07:39:09 PM) Guest_3469: live.cat5.tv working fine including the chat below the video!
  (07:39:16 PM) spideyman left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
  (07:39:28 PM) Christy: Mathman I'm just south of Barrie
  (07:39:31 PM) SammySez: GoodGuy: agreed. That is Microsoft's mantra I believe
  (07:39:38 PM) GoodGuy: RobbieF, is more subtle with supporters like Pogoplug and now I own one
  (07:39:43 PM) agamotto: Christy- Nah, just needed a good Raise Dead spell
  (07:39:44 PM) Christy: Jot I like books
  (07:39:45 PM) mathman47: I have over 100 film cameras - collect them.
  (07:39:59 PM) GoodGuy: Wow mathman47
  (07:40:05 PM) Christy: agamotto - it worked!
  (07:40:08 PM) agamotto: Lowe's sure doesn't seem to mind alienating their customers
  (07:40:09 PM) _Jot_: Christy, I have some, but the last few years I usually use screens to read them from
  (07:40:10 PM) Christy: Hi Robbie <3
  (07:40:34 PM) Christy: Jot - you're more technically advanced than me
  (07:40:41 PM) GoodGuy: How so agamotto .. I have been there a few times and dont recall being annoyed
  (07:40:48 PM) agamotto: Still look like reptilian embryos to me...
  (07:40:59 PM) iamboriskarloff [~David@60-240-68-72.tpgi.com.au] entered the room.
  (07:41:05 PM) GoodGuy: I subscribe to a Lowes feed on Youtube
  (07:41:06 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- Go there and look 'muslim.'
  (07:41:24 PM) mathman47: SUN
  (07:41:32 PM) Guest_4122: Wow if thats earth were in trouble
  (07:41:34 PM) GregInTexas: trying to get ubuntu 11.10 to respond on port 80 across the internet ...
  (07:41:40 PM) GoodGuy: That was a political issue.. warring parties trying to make their point
  (07:41:42 PM) SammySez: agamotto: that should be their right
  (07:41:50 PM) _Jot_: Christy, don't sell yourself short
  (07:41:51 PM) Christy: I'm melting, I'm melting
  (07:41:52 PM) jafarm: Looks like a volcano or Sarmon
  (07:41:56 PM) GregInTexas: apache is set up, can hit the vhost from inside the network but not outside the LAN
  (07:42:07 PM) mathman47: Go to spaceweather.com for full story on CME.
  (07:42:23 PM) GregInTexas: bust be some kind of firewall running ... ufw is inactive
  (07:42:25 PM) Guest_4122: Christy was my fav cohost of all time :)
  (07:42:25 PM) Christy: thanks mathman
  (07:42:26 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Ok, but then I don't want to hear it if white people get thrown out of a place for 'being white.'
  (07:42:28 PM) Garbee: It's the end!
  (07:42:30 PM) _Jot_: Christy, if you haven't watched it, watch episode 222 for (late) message from me
  (07:42:49 PM) mathman47: I have it up on the other monitor
  (07:43:00 PM) SammySez: I reserve the right to refuse service / conduct business with whomever I want. I don't exist to serve others against my will
  (07:43:07 PM) Christy: Guest_4122 you extremely awesome
  (07:43:10 PM) calhydro: Eric get out tin foil
  (07:43:19 PM) SammySez: agamotto: you won't because they aren't the problem
  (07:43:25 PM) jafarm: Sammy you exist to service the Borg
  (07:43:33 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, How are you forwarding the port?
  (07:43:38 PM) rick505 [ae325957@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.50.89.87] entered the room.
  (07:43:40 PM) GoodGuy: In fairness, how much do Muslim nations bend in order to make non-Muslims welcome
  (07:43:40 PM) Christy: Jot okay
  (07:43:43 PM) GoodGuy: They dont
  (07:43:44 PM) Christy: Hi Eric Kidd
  (07:43:46 PM) Michaeliowa: lol
  (07:43:49 PM) SammySez: jafarm: it is beginning to look that way in the past couple of years
  (07:43:50 PM) GregInTexas: Garbee, with the linksys router
  (07:44:00 PM) emiel1976_: RobbieF are you now using the Microsoft webcam to record this?
  (07:44:07 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, And how are you accessing the system? DynDNS or a direct IP?
  (07:44:10 PM) GregInTexas: I downed the firewall on the router and the box still didn't answer on port 80
  (07:44:15 PM) Garbee: Outside of network?
  (07:44:18 PM) GWG: Christy: I miss your weather.
  (07:44:18 PM) Christy: calhydro, hiiii!
  (07:44:22 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Actually, where I live, I would rather deal with minorities. I get the words 'thank you' and 'please' from them.
  (07:44:28 PM) Christy: @GWG I miss yours, ha ha
  (07:44:35 PM) GregInTexas: sub domain name Garbee pointed to the IP
  (07:44:46 PM) _Jot_: Christy, it was around 52:00 or 53:00 or so, but of course the rest of the shows are great too
  (07:44:54 PM) SammySez: agamotto: that's great. and that should be your choice, as I should have mine
  (07:44:58 PM) GregInTexas: the box answers on all the other ports
  (07:45:01 PM) jafarm: Muslims are very friendly to Americans as long as they aren't Media or Gov't
  (07:45:01 PM) GoodGuy: Good and bad people of every group
  (07:45:01 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, Are you sure the web services are running on the machine?
  (07:45:12 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- I have never been asked to leave a Muslim country based on being non-Muslim or 'white.'
  (07:45:22 PM) GoodGuy: Bad ones just get most of the press because that is news
  (07:45:26 PM) Garbee: Then something is configured to close port 80. Check your iptables.
  (07:45:26 PM) GregInTexas: Garbee ... yes the are running ... you can hit the website from the LAN but not outside it
  (07:45:37 PM) SammySez: agamotto: thanks for being racist
  (07:45:40 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF! I watched the light! I'm blind! I'm blind! Help!
  (07:45:43 PM) GregInTexas: I am testing a product called "Kaltura"
  (07:45:44 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Fair enough, as long as you reserve the right for others as well.
  (07:45:46 PM) SammySez:
  (07:45:47 PM) GoodGuy: Try visiting Mecca or Medina? Dare to carry a Bible?
  (07:45:59 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- agreed
  (07:46:04 PM) GoodGuy: It can be a death sentence in some places
  (07:46:12 PM) Christy: Valpenone, wow, south sweden is cool
  (07:46:16 PM) invinciblemutant: can we have this on our mobile phone !!!
  (07:46:16 PM) Garbee: Calm down agamotto and SammySez
  (07:46:20 PM) invinciblemutant: our smartphone?
  (07:46:23 PM) SammySez: agamotto: I do. It is the liberals who don't believe that. They believe in enforcing their rights on everyone.
  (07:46:25 PM) Garbee: Save fun play for later.
  (07:46:28 PM) jafarm: Carrying a Bible openly in Saudi Arabia is a Criminal Offense I believe
  (07:46:40 PM) GoodGuy: It is in Pakistan also iirc
  (07:46:45 PM) SammySez: yep
  (07:46:52 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, those different colours, those were your mood-rings
  (07:46:53 PM) agamotto: I am fine. Discussion is fun... I rarely meet people I feel a need to 'yell' at.
  (07:47:01 PM) invinciblemutant: i think i would be fun if have a case for mobile
  (07:47:17 PM) chrisreich: In Saudi Arabia, chess is illegal because the goal is "to kill the king"
  (07:47:22 PM) SammySez: that's is entirely true, but we can't talk about that.
  (07:47:31 PM) jafarm: I want to kill that flashlight... That sound is annoying like fingers down a chalkboard
  (07:47:32 PM) Scorpio55: OLPC developed tablet with solar and wind up power
  (07:47:34 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- True about the death sentence, but those places exist in every country, unfortunately.
  (07:47:39 PM) mathman47: Is RobbieF growing his hair longer for winter?
  (07:47:46 PM) agamotto: Well, perhaps not Canada...
  (07:47:47 PM) Guest_4122: yes can you imagine spinning that for ages trying to see where you are going
  (07:47:52 PM) GoodGuy: Chess was invented in Iran I believe
  (07:48:03 PM) gpop7: good for an emergency kit
  (07:48:06 PM) _Jot_: mathman47, last week he looked like Eric with a beard, so today he tries to look like Eric with his hair
  (07:48:19 PM) mathman47: Jot - great
  (07:48:23 PM) agamotto: Scorpio55- Solar? finally? hmmmm
  (07:48:35 PM) maxwell6307: there gonna lose anyway eric
  (07:48:37 PM) chrisreich: India/Iran - that part of the world, yes. In Kuwait I saw ancient chess pieces in the museum.
  (07:48:42 PM) spideyman [415c9045@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.92.144.69] entered the room.
  (07:48:45 PM) invinciblemutant: that is cool
  (07:48:48 PM) Michaeliowa: nice
  (07:48:50 PM) GoodGuy: You can openly carry a Quran in the USA without the Govt sentencing you to death.. some nutcase may, but it isnt law
  (07:48:56 PM) invinciblemutant: how much does it sell ?
  (07:49:03 PM) pyrosrock: where can u get one?
  (07:49:07 PM) chrisreich: they spelled 'rook' as 'ruhk' I remember.
  (07:49:12 PM) Scorpio55: agamotto yep One Laptop Per Child tablet pc
  (07:49:22 PM) SammySez: and they can burn bibles and draw images of Christ, but try to reverse that and see what happens
  (07:49:26 PM) agamotto: I have a few lights like the one Robbie is holding... very handy for camping!
  (07:49:30 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF! Stop pointing those lights at me! they are blinding
  (07:49:35 PM) Guest_4424: Hi RobbieF, Hi EricKidd, hey have you seen "Ubuntu TV" yet? Looks cool. : D
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  (07:50:00 PM) GoodGuy: Interesting because Christ is a prophet in their faith
  (07:50:04 PM) invinciblemutant: that does not burn fuel, but it burns 'burgers'
  (07:50:05 PM) invinciblemutant: lol
  (07:50:10 PM) mathman47: Wiki - Chess originated in India.
  (07:50:15 PM) agamotto: Guest_4424- The interesting part will be in getting someone to put it in/on their hardware...
  (07:50:18 PM) jafarm: In the Quran Christ is considered a prophet so if they are drawing pictures of him and defacing the picture they are violating Islam
  (07:50:18 PM) RachelX [63ef22a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.239.34.167] entered the room.
  (07:50:20 PM) GregInTexas: it does burn something, that's true
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  (07:50:27 PM) GoodGuy: They recognizr him in that catagory I believe
  (07:50:45 PM) agamotto: jafarm- Welcome to the hypocrisy...
  (07:50:49 PM) GoodGuy: Not positive about that, but think I read that in the past
  (07:50:50 PM) SammySez: I have one of those lights, and there is a matching radio you can get too - very cool
  (07:50:55 PM) calhydro: I installed iGO Green on all my AC/DC vampire adapters, works pretty good. http://www.igo.com/power/icat/power/ Not Human Powered but it saves power.
  (07:51:03 PM) GregInTexas: I have a flashlight that you shake back and forth ... works great
  (07:51:27 PM) rick505: Hey regulars...I've missed a bunch of shows. Do they still cover real Linux stuff around here or just mostly product stuff??
  (07:51:40 PM) invinciblemutant: it sounds like a pornsite ...:p
  (07:51:44 PM) jafarm: Got that right Agamotto
  (07:51:51 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- Correct. Realize however, that most Wahbbists aren't considered to be 'normal' Muslims any more than FDLS is considered 'Christian.'
  (07:51:59 PM) _Jot_: rick505, of course, there just were some questions answered, and it's just products if something is really good
  (07:52:03 PM) GoodGuy: Most of the time rick505 ... a little variety is usually welcome
  (07:52:14 PM) GoodGuy: Not just a Linux channel
  (07:52:19 PM) rick505: Agreed....I need to try and get back more
  (07:52:23 PM) agamotto: calhydro- Worth the initial cost?
  (07:52:28 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, I have a question, what do you do when you got blind because somebody pointed lights on your screen?
  (07:52:32 PM) Michaeliowa: hi
  (07:52:38 PM) Christy: Hiiiiiiiiiiiii RObbie and ERic
  (07:52:38 PM) emiel1976_: hi
  (07:52:47 PM) EightMilesFromTJ: Hello everyone
  (07:52:48 PM) Christy: emiel1976
  (07:52:52 PM) Garbee: rick505, Linux stuff comes and goes.
  (07:52:52 PM) agamotto: rick505- It varies from week to week. It is usually a good mix.
  (07:52:53 PM) GregInTexas: Yea RobbieF ... do you know if there is a firewall enabled by default on Ubuntu Server 11.10?
  (07:53:02 PM) Christy: Yay hi Eric
  (07:53:06 PM) RachelX: he wont
  (07:53:09 PM) RachelX: hes too cool for you
  (07:53:14 PM) RachelX: :D
  (07:53:15 PM) emiel1976_: Hi Christy
  (07:53:22 PM) Christy: Yay Hi Robbie
  (07:53:25 PM) Scorpio55: RobbieF there are a whole bunch of extensions for G3 here https://extensions.gnome.org/
  (07:53:26 PM) agamotto: _Jot_- You keep talking, and 'fake' it.
  (07:53:29 PM) RachelX: the fabulous christy
  (07:53:30 PM) Christy: YYYYYUUUUPPP
  (07:53:30 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, it is THE christy
  (07:53:30 PM) GoodGuy: RobbieF - EricKidd Any chance you could do a future episode of using Linux or other enhancements to the Pogoplug?
  (07:53:30 PM) invinciblemutant: what is the best webcam for ubuntu?
  (07:53:36 PM) Garbee: Aww... EricKidd won't read what I put down for pronunciation in my email.
  (07:53:36 PM) Christy: It's very cold
  (07:53:39 PM) emiel1976_: RobbieF are you now recording this with the Microsoft cam?
  (07:53:47 PM) jafarm: Robbie Eric has PBCAK issues
  (07:53:53 PM) Garbee: ufw shouldn't be.
  (07:53:57 PM) Garbee: It is up to the user I think.
  (07:53:58 PM) calhydro: Good they are in the missile silo
  (07:53:59 PM) agamotto: invinciblemutant- hard to say
  (07:54:00 PM) Garbee: Just like desktop.
  (07:54:04 PM) GregInTexas: seems to be something blocking port 80 on this server
  (07:54:09 PM) invinciblemutant: how can get the earlier versions of ubuntu website?
  (07:54:14 PM) GregInTexas: don't want it on ... want it off!
  (07:54:15 PM) SammySez: ufw enable?
  (07:54:17 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, Did you check your iptables?
  (07:54:25 PM) agamotto: jafarm- shhh, don't clue him in!
  (07:54:26 PM) Scorpio55: EricdKidd https://extensions.gnome.org/
  (07:54:27 PM) Christy: DO THE WEATHER
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  (07:54:28 PM) ***agamotto chuckles
  (07:54:28 PM) invinciblemutant: how to get earlier versions of ubuntu from the ubuntu website?
  (07:54:28 PM) GregInTexas: where Garbee?
  (07:54:31 PM) rick505: Sudo first Sammy
  (07:54:32 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, No, I put a funny pronunciation for you.
  (07:54:41 PM) jafarm: actually starting UFW in startup programs is easier. No need to remember after putting it in there
  (07:54:45 PM) SammySez: rick505 - sure
  (07:55:01 PM) mathman47: Weather, weather, weather, weather, weather, & more weather.
  (07:55:06 PM) agamotto: invinciblemutant- how far back?
  (07:55:09 PM) _Jot_: weather is very important!
  (07:55:10 PM) SammySez: ufw enable actually does that jafarm
  (07:55:16 PM) Christy: Mathman you're my hero
  (07:55:20 PM) SammySez: it is persistent between boots
  (07:55:20 PM) Garbee: Yea, just testing.
  (07:55:29 PM) Garbee: Firewall? Do what?
  (07:55:31 PM) RachelX: The weather is bleh, that sums it up.
  (07:55:31 PM) mathman47: Christy - Yes, I know!
  (07:55:36 PM) Christy: Jot yes!
  (07:55:47 PM) Christy: Rachelx hail on you
  (07:55:54 PM) _Jot_: we need to have more weather on Category5, RobbieF
  (07:55:59 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, Ask to read the pronunciation I put down. Have fun man!
  (07:56:04 PM) Christy: Jot <3
  (07:56:18 PM) maxwell6307: how do you uninstall a program using the terminal?
  (07:56:19 PM) _Jot_: it's on TV, so he can't deny it now
  (07:56:30 PM) jafarm: I just automatically throw it in there along with removing the "Accessability programs" when I first startx then I reboot and update
  (07:56:35 PM) agamotto: apt-get remove x?
  (07:56:41 PM) _Jot_: maxwell6307, sudo apt-get remove
  (07:57:01 PM) GoodGuy: sudo apt-get remove xxxxx (-purge)
  (07:57:06 PM) maxwell6307: thanks Joy/yot
  (07:57:13 PM) GoodGuy: lokkup -purge
  (07:57:17 PM) GoodGuy: lookup
  (07:57:19 PM) maxwell6307: jot i mean
  (07:57:29 PM) agamotto: Yes, the -purge pat can be useful with some programs
  (07:57:29 PM) GoodGuy: Removes config files and such
  (07:57:32 PM) _Jot_: I'm glad I can provide joy!
  (07:57:55 PM) maxwell6307: lol
  (07:58:01 PM) jafarm: I've started using apt-get -y install it automatically answers yes for you
  (07:58:04 PM) Garbee: Yea, GnarlyMailman does that already.
  (07:58:40 PM) SammySez: What speeds do people have here? I am running circa 1995 768k/256k (UMTS connection) as my only option.
  (07:58:43 PM) invinciblemutant: restart the firefox perhaps will work
  (07:58:44 PM) Garbee: ah, so I just needed to install postfix with the Internet setting.
  (07:58:50 PM) SammySez: jafarm - cool tip
  (07:58:55 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, can you buy those products worldwide?
  (07:59:03 PM) maxwell6307: went way to fast
  (07:59:04 PM) RachelX: no candies, no doughnuts
  (07:59:04 PM) agamotto: SammySez- i float between 1.5Mbps and 3.0Mbps, thanks to AT&T
  (07:59:07 PM) jafarm: I don't use SUDO since the version of Linux I'm on requires root to do most of its true functionality (Pentesting)
  (07:59:11 PM) Garbee: I installed the email client via tasksel but wasn't sure what option to select... I see I chose correctly.
  (07:59:17 PM) GregInTexas: Garbee ... what am I looking for on the IP Tables?
  (07:59:20 PM) Garbee: Thanks RobbieF.
  (07:59:30 PM) SammySez: agamotto - does it vary depend on demand or do you subscribe to those speeds?
  (07:59:35 PM) RobbieF: thanks all
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  (07:59:36 PM) rick505: so long all
  (07:59:36 PM) mathman47: Bye Christy. Nice to chat with you again. I've missed you. Good show Robbie F & Eric.
  (07:59:38 PM) agamotto: _Jot_- should be able to. the crank led lights should be found at just about any outdoor sport shop you have,
  (07:59:39 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, Anything to block port 80, or tell it not to respond to calls on that port.
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  (08:00:00 PM) Valpenone: great show as usual nite all
  (08:00:01 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, You will regret not seeing the pronunciation I put down.
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  (08:00:03 PM) GregInTexas: Garbee ... http://www.pasteall.org/28505
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  (08:00:19 PM) GregInTexas: only thing I see blocked is ICMP
  (08:00:20 PM) Christy: See you everybody, miss you sincerely
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  (08:00:37 PM) GregInTexas: miss you too Christy
  (08:00:40 PM) SammySez: any more aftershow outtakes tonight?
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  (08:00:49 PM) maxwell6307: great show guys thanks
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  (08:00:53 PM) pyrosrock: RobbieF u need to send out email reminders so i dont forget the show
  (08:00:58 PM) Christy: GregInTexas is it hot where you are?
  (08:01:03 PM) Garbee: Yea, that shouldn't cause the problem. Unless you are pinging it only.
  (08:01:03 PM) agamotto: SammySez- I 'subscribe' to 3.0, but we are pushing the 'interconnect' or whatever it is that serves our neighborhood. They might upgrade it someday. We are the only people in our area who have expressed a desire for anything faster than 1.5mbps in our neighborhood, according to AT&T.
  (08:01:08 PM) Garbee: or tracerouting.
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  (08:01:17 PM) GregInTexas: No, Christy, not hot ... but not bad ... low 60's
  (08:01:27 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, Try a traceroute and see if that can get to your local network.
  (08:01:31 PM) invinciblemutant: yea, i dont get show reminder for 2 weeks already
  (08:01:31 PM) Christy: That's pretty good
  (08:01:35 PM) _Jot__ [~jottemp@8d690a2a.ftth.concepts.nl] entered the room.
  (08:01:38 PM) ***agamotto hugs Christy
  (08:01:39 PM) pyrosrock: RobbieF or u could call me to check im awake to watch
  (08:01:49 PM) RachelX: You need to come back on the show christy
  (08:01:51 PM) _Jot__: I hate it when my internet breaks
  (08:01:53 PM) Christy: agamotto
  (08:01:53 PM) SammySez: agamotto: got it. So AT&T expects you to believe that only you want more bandwidth? That's nice of them to insult your intelligence. :)
  (08:01:54 PM) invinciblemutant: havent got any reminder for 2 weeks
  (08:01:58 PM) Michaeliowa: I would like it to be in the 60's
  (08:02:03 PM) GregInTexas: I can get the box to answer on 443 etc for other stuff
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  (08:02:04 PM) RachelX: at least a cameo
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  (08:02:24 PM) _Jot__: at least with Christy on the show, we can see what the weather is like, since he can't have big sticks anymore
  (08:02:27 PM) GregInTexas: you mean down the firewall and tracert to it?
  (08:02:36 PM) jafarm: I'm not sure if I'm lucky or not but I'm getting IPv4 and v6 addresses. Time to upgrade router
  (08:02:38 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Yes. Our only other alternative is Mediacom cable internet... and I not going to pay what they want.
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  (08:02:45 PM) Christy: Jot ha ha he'll get me with a firewall ha ha
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  (08:03:12 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Given how I couldn't get decent 'reception' paying $68/month for analog cable.
  (08:03:13 PM) _Jot__: he does have a big wall now, sometimes he paints it green, then he removes that and rebuilds the entire wall
  (08:03:22 PM) _Jot__ is now known as _Jot_
  (08:03:25 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, Are you sure your ISP doesn't block port 80?
  (08:03:27 PM) SammySez: I see. Is AT&T pretty reliable? There are rumors the electric utils plan to start testing broadband over power lines here soon too.
  (08:03:46 PM) GregInTexas: hmmm ... hadn't thought of that
  (08:03:50 PM) agamotto: jafarm- You will see more of that as servers convert over to ipv6 this year
  (08:04:05 PM) GregInTexas: not my ISP ... a friend in another city that I set up his server
  (08:04:20 PM) GregInTexas: to host videos like google to demo to his university
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  (08:04:39 PM) GregInTexas: got everything installed and can't see the darn site outside of the network
  (08:04:42 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-apache2-change-default-port-ipbinding/ This could help to specify answering on port 80, if it happens to be an apache issue.
  (08:04:44 PM) agamotto: SammySez- in our area, they are. On average, I am getting 2.8Mbps. It can go all the way down to 1.5, but not often.
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  (08:04:59 PM) jafarm: Yep, now I have to spend 80 at amazon to get an IP 6 compatible router :(
  (08:05:24 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, You also might need to check httpd.conf
  (08:05:27 PM) agamotto: jafarm- You can't just zap a firmware update?
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  (08:05:36 PM) Garbee: jafarm, What router do you have now?
  (08:05:50 PM) GoodGuy: Can you run DD-WRT on the router?
  (08:05:52 PM) jafarm: An OLD Dlink DIR-655
  (08:06:05 PM) GregInTexas: yea, I know about all of that ... thing is the product, Kaltura, wants port 80 ...
  (08:06:09 PM) Michaeliowa: RobbisF and ErixKidd is PB you have?
  (08:06:13 PM) GregInTexas: doesn't like another
  (08:06:13 PM) GoodGuy: Maybe that has IPv6 updates
  (08:06:16 PM) Christy: Rachel you are the best
  (08:06:21 PM) jafarm: Site said it can't be upgraded to IP6 compatible
  (08:06:22 PM) agamotto: GregInTexas- Aren't some schools blocking port 80 due to DMCA and other fun stuff?
  (08:06:28 PM) SammySez: agamotto: gotcha. ours is really hit-n-miss even at the low speeds, especially in weather (and now the flares). We are 15 miles or more from the nearest broadband copper / fiber, so UMTS is the only option.
  (08:06:32 PM) Garbee: DD-WRT not possible on that router.
  (08:06:46 PM) GoodGuy: ok.. I didnt know
  (08:06:48 PM) jafarm: Nope, no DD-WRT or Tomato
  (08:06:50 PM) _Jot_: Christy, I think you and Rachel are both the best, and of course the rest of the Category 5 team and community too
  (08:06:54 PM) GregInTexas: well, agamotto, he's outside his university on his own network
  (08:06:55 PM) agamotto: jafarm- well, that sucks
  (08:07:02 PM) agamotto: GregInTexas- Ah, I get it now.
  (08:07:18 PM) GregInTexas: but cox cable * could * be blocking port 80
  (08:07:33 PM) GregInTexas: I was doing all the sysadmin stuff for him
  (08:07:51 PM) SammySez: GregInTexas: Reading back, it's been my experience that most ISPs block 80 / 21 / 25 / 110 on residential accounts, requiring businesses to pay more for a business account with no restrictions.
  (08:07:54 PM) GregInTexas: so we could get it up and running then take the server inside his university network
  (08:07:55 PM) jafarm: No ISP would block port 80 if they want to keep customers
  (08:08:03 PM) agamotto: SammySez- If I lived across the river in Davenport, I could get 12Mbps from Quest DSL for something like $50/month, if memory serves
  (08:08:13 PM) Garbee: jafarm, Why wouldn't they?
  (08:08:24 PM) GregInTexas: yuck SammySez ... that sounds like the only thing left
  (08:08:38 PM) Bekah: haha _Jot_ "You are ALL my favorite." hehe
  (08:08:40 PM) agamotto: I am paying $25/month for the 3Mbps.
  (08:08:53 PM) jafarm: Unless they do it for incoming to your home network because it violates ToS
  (08:08:56 PM) _Jot_: Bekah, that includes you of course, you're not left out
  (08:08:57 PM) Garbee: They only block on incoming connections, to stop from hosting servers within the network on consumer level lines. Nothing wrong with that. It would be an issue blocking outgoing port 80.
  (08:09:06 PM) agamotto: GregInTexas- The ISP blocking it would not be surprising
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  (08:09:25 PM) GregInTexas: he asked about hosting a web site and they said it would be ok ... but that doesn't mean it is
  (08:09:27 PM) jafarm: Yeah I think outgoing automatically
  (08:09:46 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1394223 .. Cox does have a history apparently.
  (08:09:48 PM) SammySez: as an example, if I pay ~$50 for 10Mb residential, I would get the same speed for ~$150-300 just to have them open up those ports as a "business" account. Of course they justify this with their "enhanced business support" service ;)
  (08:10:08 PM) SammySez: that was true with our cable and DSL providers last year anyway
  (08:10:08 PM) jafarm: Never believe front line support about stuff like that. Always get a manager
  (08:10:30 PM) Garbee: Just like some ISPs block port 25 outgoing to help stop spambots. That is why 587 is another de`facto default port for it.
  (08:10:30 PM) _Jot_: 'enhanced business support'= enhanced business prices for no support
  (08:10:38 PM) agamotto: Garbee- yes
  (08:10:54 PM) Garbee: My Cable provider blocks nothing.
  (08:11:00 PM) agamotto: _Jot_- Especially with someone like Mediacom
  (08:11:08 PM) Garbee: I can do whatever I want for my $60 a month for 12Mbps down / 640 Kbps up connection.
  (08:11:11 PM) SammySez: agamotto: that sounds like a great deal compared to what I have. Mine is just shy of $60 for a 1/2 T1 rate. :(
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  (08:11:30 PM) jafarm: Have you tried port 443 and make it https:???
  (08:11:37 PM) jafarm: see if that works
  (08:11:50 PM) Garbee: jafarm, Yea, all other ports work for him, except 80.
  (08:11:52 PM) GregInTexas: Kaltura doesn't want 443 ... 443 works
  (08:12:01 PM) Garbee: But, the software he wants to run only will work on 80.
  (08:12:05 PM) Garbee: So, catch 22 issue.
  (08:12:06 PM) GregInTexas: port 10000 works for webmin
  (08:12:08 PM) agamotto: Back when I was at Lowe's, our store ISP was Mediacom. It was somewhat common to call in orders over the phone, as we could talk through it faster than the design programs could send/receive orders.
  (08:12:17 PM) GregInTexas: port 8080 works for java
  (08:12:53 PM) _Jot_: agamotto, sounds like the service RobbieF was getting
  (08:13:04 PM) agamotto: SammySez- It is. The deal I get is reasonable for what I get, by American standards, but the Quest offering is good.
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  (08:13:13 PM) jafarm: Can you create a VPN for customers to come in on??
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  (08:13:49 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, You could try PAT, have it come in on another port, say 9078, then have the router forward that port to port 80 for internal use, then back to 9078 for external traffic. But that would require accessers manually addressing the new port.
  (08:13:57 PM) SammySez: GregInTexas: this is a great little "port tester" I use all the time to test things like what you are going through - https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
  (08:14:15 PM) agamotto: agamotto- I may move over to Iowa depending on what happens with the workfront, and with retirement becoming an issue in ~15 years.
  (08:14:25 PM) Bekah: well, goodnight folks, I'm off :)
  (08:14:31 PM) agamotto: Bekah- have fun
  (08:14:31 PM) Garbee: Night Bekah
  (08:14:35 PM) SammySez: GregInTexas: it is all browser based, no downloads, no install
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  (08:14:39 PM) GregInTexas: kewl Garbee, thank you
  (08:14:40 PM) _Jot_: have a good night Bekah
  (08:14:51 PM) agamotto: how did I just send a message to myself? heheheheeh
  (08:15:00 PM) jafarm: Shields Up is really good on the GRC site
  (08:15:02 PM) GregInTexas: I mean SammySez ... sheesh ... I have too many chats open
  (08:15:03 PM) Bekah: Night Garbee and _Jot_ :)
  (08:15:07 PM) Garbee: GregInTexas, That is the simplest solution I can think of if the ISP is blocking it (which it seems it is).
  (08:15:10 PM) agamotto: SammySez- I may move over to Iowa depending on what happens with the workfront, and with retirement becoming an issue in ~15 years.
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  (08:15:20 PM) SammySez: that or use DynDNS to handle the port forward so your public doesn't have to
  (08:15:29 PM) Garbee: I have had iffy results with Shields up sometimes.
  (08:15:34 PM) GregInTexas: actually, thanks to both of you ... hehe
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