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  (06:59:52 PM) hubbabubba [4580e1cd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.225.205] entered the room.
  (07:00:31 PM) u-al [~chatzilla@c-71-199-121-84.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] entered the room.
  (07:00:53 PM) agamotto: While walking around, I managed to finally check out some stores I rarely get the chance to get to...
  (07:01:09 PM) _Jot_: congratulations Hillary
  (07:01:13 PM) robgor: Hi RobbieF and Hillary
  (07:01:13 PM) agamotto: Hillary is off the market!!!
  (07:01:16 PM) invincibleMutant: why robbie is big
  (07:01:18 PM) invincibleMutant: huge
  (07:01:20 PM) OldGuyJim: Carefull...we'll be blinded.
  (07:01:21 PM) Guest_4838 [ae109514@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.16.149.20] entered the room.
  (07:01:22 PM) robgor: congrats Hillary
  (07:01:27 PM) tordeu: If you are not moving, I grant you permission.
  (07:01:28 PM) popey: congratulations Hillary
  (07:01:29 PM) agamotto: Ok, show us the ring!!!!
  (07:01:32 PM) as759: Congratulations
  (07:01:37 PM) Raffer: congratulations
  (07:01:37 PM) GoodGuy: Congratulations Hillary and God Bless
  (07:01:40 PM) ***popey tickles RobbieF
  (07:01:42 PM) agamotto: Hillary- Ok, show us the ring!!!!
  (07:01:43 PM) u-al: good luck
  (07:01:49 PM) invincibleMutant: congrats
  (07:01:54 PM) _Jot_: by the way Hillary, getting married is nice, but you haven't even asked me, who says I even want to?
  (07:01:54 PM) OldGuyJim: Yes..Congratulations.
  (07:01:56 PM) ajamison5579: Robbief Hillary she could do the celeberty thing and go by her maiden name on air
  (07:02:26 PM) agamotto: Moving rooms again?
  (07:02:41 PM) _Jot_: no, it's still the same room
  (07:02:50 PM) agamotto: Ahh, more new kit
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  (07:02:56 PM) hubbabubba: great quality vid
  (07:03:17 PM) agamotto: Kind of
  (07:03:18 PM) popey: \o/ Ubuntu TV!
  (07:03:34 PM) Michaeliowa [~michael@71-32-163-87.desm.qwest.net] entered the room.
  (07:03:54 PM) Michaeliowa: hi
  (07:04:02 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Hello RobbieF!
  (07:04:15 PM) agamotto: Michaeliowa- how are things now that the media are no longer invading?
  (07:04:16 PM) hubbabubba: hillary is sure look nice tonight
  (07:04:31 PM) RachelX [63ef22a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.239.34.167] entered the room.
  (07:04:33 PM) ajamison5579: was written in Spanish
  (07:04:36 PM) RachelX: Gotta check out the new setup
  (07:04:45 PM) agamotto: RachelX- hallo
  (07:05:07 PM) agamotto: Flip it over, I will give it a try... my Espanol is reasonable
  (07:05:32 PM) agamotto: Skype is very popular in the deaf/low hearing community
  (07:05:38 PM) mathman47 [43b843ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.184.67.239] entered the room.
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  (07:05:51 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, it's jot! Jot has a moustache
  (07:06:03 PM) OldGuyJim: The man in the yellow Polo shirt...
  (07:06:10 PM) G_dog1985_: lol
  (07:06:28 PM) popey: thats french!?
  (07:06:30 PM) RachelX: It looks........ the same haha
  (07:06:34 PM) popey: sounded more like arnie ☺
  (07:06:46 PM) f8tality [4ac34e84@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.195.78.132] entered the room.
  (07:06:49 PM) Michaeliowa: agamotto: did not get the media working. I have try ed.
  (07:06:52 PM) ajamison5579: popey arnie doing a french accent maybe :)
  (07:06:52 PM) _Jot_: RachelX, is that a good thing, or a bad thing?
  (07:06:55 PM) agamotto: constipated french perhaps....
  (07:07:37 PM) as759: Advances in closed captioning will need to be made
  (07:07:38 PM) agamotto: Nah, just let YouTube keep mangling his speech.
  (07:07:44 PM) mathman47: Hey! Facial hair is cool.
  (07:07:47 PM) Guest_8529 [4afece87@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.254.206.135] entered the room.
  (07:08:19 PM) G_dog1985_: lol
  (07:08:40 PM) maxwell6307: does Robbie really sing opra?
  (07:08:53 PM) ajamison5579: Maxwell6307 yes he can
  (07:09:00 PM) ajamison5579: look at his youtube channel
  (07:09:01 PM) _Jot_: Do we want to hear RobbieF sing opera?
  (07:09:01 PM) mathman47: No, he sings Oprah.
  (07:09:02 PM) RachelX: yes maxwell
  (07:09:11 PM) RachelX: stuff from les miserables
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  (07:09:17 PM) maxwell6307: sing Robbie
  (07:09:17 PM) RachelX: was in pirates of pensanse a musical
  (07:09:24 PM) ajamison5579: sings oprah lol
  (07:09:28 PM) agamotto: RachelX- Ahh, but can he do it in Yiddish?
  (07:09:35 PM) GWG: Excuse me
  (07:09:38 PM) GWG: I'm not watching.
  (07:09:39 PM) GWG: I'm working
  (07:09:50 PM) GWG: But I saw Yiddish and Pirates and Penzance, and I perked up
  (07:09:56 PM) OldGuyJim: Has anyone tried VectorLinux, a slackware base distribution?
  (07:09:58 PM) GWG: and I can sing Les Miserables
  (07:10:00 PM) RachelX: GWG are you the one working at bell whose never actually working?
  (07:10:13 PM) agamotto: I was wondering if Robbie can do numbers from Les Mis in Yiddish?
  (07:10:14 PM) RachelX: I can sing les miserables but believe me you would not want to hear it!
  (07:10:15 PM) GWG: RachelX: I don't work at Bell
  (07:10:25 PM) GWG: Now I'm singing as I work
  (07:10:32 PM) _Jot_: RachelX, I want to hear it!
  (07:10:56 PM) invincibleMutant: robbie, i just catched up the episode on DNS, you mentioned > as pipe? i thought pipe is | , > is 'redirect' i think.
  (07:11:10 PM) GoodGuy: Some of the Puppy Linux puplets are Slackware based
  (07:11:17 PM) agamotto: invincibleMutant- correct
  (07:11:31 PM) EightMilesFromTJ [4b21cd9b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.33.205.155] entered the room.
  (07:11:33 PM) ***GWG is singing while he works
  (07:11:34 PM) Dennis_Kelley: _Jot_ - did not win that Pogoplug for the testimonial
  (07:11:41 PM) _Jot_: invicibleMutant, you also have to remember that RobbieF doesn't always get his words correctly
  (07:11:47 PM) GWG: Do You Hear the People sing....
  (07:11:48 PM) ajamison5579: That sounds like a comercial
  (07:11:51 PM) ajamison5579: lol
  (07:12:07 PM) _Jot_: Dennis_Kelley, no, you did! darn it! Now I only won what, 299 instead of 300 of them or something like that
  (07:12:31 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Yes they are!
  (07:12:33 PM) invincibleMutant: and there are issues using other dns outside your country, it would get the akamai server when you download...download might be very slow using DNS outside your country or state
  (07:12:50 PM) Dennis_Kelley: GoodGuy - Hows it going?
  (07:12:53 PM) invincibleMutant: it is worth noting
  (07:13:24 PM) GoodGuy: Not too bad.. Felt better but otherwise decent.. How are you?
  (07:13:27 PM) RachelX_ [63ef22a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.239.34.167] entered the room.
  (07:13:34 PM) RachelX_: Site crashed on me
  (07:14:05 PM) slipp3d [~Slip@64.89.221.30] entered the room.
  (07:14:07 PM) chrisreich [~Chris@cpe-74-69-47-56.rochester.res.rr.com] entered the room.
  (07:14:13 PM) _Jot_: you can always try a seperate IRC client with that setup, instead of using the site, RachelX_
  (07:14:21 PM) invincibleMutant: r u on mobile broadband? i am thousand miles away, i am ok
  (07:14:30 PM) chrisreich: People of Earth, Greetings.
  (07:14:32 PM) invincibleMutant: this to rachel
  (07:14:34 PM) G_dog1985_: agrees _Jot_
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  (07:14:42 PM) agamotto: Hillary- Specialist
  (07:14:55 PM) popey: wow, nice testimonial from the army guys
  (07:15:05 PM) agamotto: Try getting CBC without Silverlight!!!
  (07:15:06 PM) popey: really nice to get people like that mailing in
  (07:15:07 PM) RachelX_: maybe my laptop is just being moody
  (07:15:07 PM) invincibleMutant: rachel is having problem getting on the chat room
  (07:15:12 PM) Dennis_Kelley: GoodGuy - Doing great!!
  (07:15:13 PM) Hillary: that was my first time reading it.oops!
  (07:15:14 PM) GoodGuy: Our military can't supply the best internet quality in the world? They designed the darn thing!
  (07:15:28 PM) GoodGuy: Cool (beans) :-)
  (07:15:28 PM) invincibleMutant: switch to linux , rachel..:P
  (07:15:42 PM) RachelX_: NEVA! hehe
  (07:15:50 PM) agamotto: Hillary- No worries, abreviations for ranks can be quite confusing
  (07:16:09 PM) _Jot_: RachelX_, maybe you need to buy some fruit and then put a banana on it, to make it work. Or some other kind of fruit
  (07:16:19 PM) jjfro [60f47b3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.244.123.58] entered the room.
  (07:16:23 PM) Hillary: i shouldve preread. oh well.
  (07:16:24 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- they can, but don't want to pay for non-killing use of the bandwidth ;)
  (07:16:28 PM) GoodGuy: Have you tried Moonlight for CBC agamotto ?
  (07:16:36 PM) EightMilesFromTJ left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
  (07:16:40 PM) _Jot_: Hillary, it's the fault of RobbieF! He is making you read so much
  (07:16:41 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- limited success, yes
  (07:16:59 PM) GoodGuy: The killing use didnt work that hot either since Iran now has our drone
  (07:17:06 PM) invincibleMutant: bananas, the laptop is acting like a monkey?
  (07:17:07 PM) RachelX_: buy some fruit and put a banana on it? did i miss something?
  (07:17:22 PM) _Jot_: yeah, apples obviously don't work
  (07:17:26 PM) invincibleMutant: cheeky laptop...
  (07:17:34 PM) mathman47: Then we'd miss the co-host.
  (07:17:35 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- considering the drone data traffic isn't encrypted, I wasn't surprised
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  (07:17:53 PM) EightMilesFromTJ [4b21cd9b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.33.205.155] entered the room.
  (07:18:04 PM) GoodGuy: Actually they spoofed the GPS if you read what they said
  (07:18:16 PM) iModdi [54d200eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.210.0.235] entered the room.
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  (07:18:28 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- True, but if the things were encrypted, I doubt any of that would have been possible
  (07:18:29 PM) GoodGuy: Sounded reasonable since a researcher warned of that
  (07:19:01 PM) GoodGuy: Thats a good point.... oh well more money for a new drone design
  (07:19:21 PM) hubbabubba [4580e1cd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.225.205] entered the room.
  (07:19:35 PM) f8tality [4ac34e84@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.195.78.132] entered the room.
  (07:19:37 PM) iModdi: Nice to watch your show live for first time! Wathing your show on Ubunut & iPhone 4!
  (07:19:42 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- the original point of GPS for military apps was that all of the milspec uses were supposed to be encyrpted. Oh well...
  (07:19:42 PM) Guest_8529: I'm using Chromium and chat works fine! ??
  (07:19:48 PM) Guest_2294 [63ef035d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.239.3.93] entered the room.
  (07:19:51 PM) SammySez [~SammySez@38.109.25.246] entered the room.
  (07:19:51 PM) _Jot_: hey guest
  (07:19:59 PM) Michaeliowa: hi
  (07:20:02 PM) G_dog1985_: hey
  (07:20:04 PM) Guest_2294: Well hello there!
  (07:20:07 PM) agamotto: iModdi- You have Ubuntu running in an iPhone?
  (07:20:14 PM) _Jot_: nice to see you guest Robbie, you are looking very bald today!
  (07:20:24 PM) popey: Hullo Guest_2294 !
  (07:20:25 PM) _Jot_: or is that bold?
  (07:20:25 PM) invincibleMutant: the video is lagging a few seconds
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  (07:20:32 PM) SammySez: pretty cool
  (07:20:38 PM) G_dog1985_: yep invincibleMutant
  (07:20:38 PM) mathman47: It appeared in the Chat Room before he clicked enter.
  (07:20:40 PM) iModdi: Ubuntu on PC!
  (07:20:44 PM) ***agamotto slaps _Jot_ with a trout?
  (07:21:11 PM) GoodGuy: James Bond's enemies could lol
  (07:21:21 PM) agamotto: I know I enjoyed my weather today... sunny with a high around 18C... very nice
  (07:21:38 PM) hubbabubba: what is the irc server address?
  (07:21:40 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Weather?
  (07:21:45 PM) RachelX_: Jealous agamotto
  (07:21:52 PM) _Jot_: hubbabubba, it's on freenode
  (07:21:54 PM) RachelX_: snowy and freezing here
  (07:22:00 PM) invincibleMutant: the irc service is irc.freenode.net
  (07:22:01 PM) G_dog1985_: irc.freenode.net hubbabubba
  (07:22:11 PM) _Jot_: the room-name is Category5
  (07:22:17 PM) _Jot_: so #category5
  (07:22:34 PM) invincibleMutant: rachelx, do you mean the show is snowy?
  (07:23:10 PM) agamotto: You have to worry about different versions of Joomla???
  (07:23:56 PM) agamotto: TP! TP for my bunghole!!!!
  (07:23:58 PM) iModdi: Can I get a video how to setup IP Wireless/Wire Camera for ZTE 3G router? Hope for help to do it! Need help to do it for my brother!
  (07:24:04 PM) G_dog1985_: haha
  (07:24:17 PM) SammySez: live.cat5.tv works well
  (07:24:36 PM) iModdi: ZTE 3G router is from Telenor Norge!
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  (07:24:51 PM) hubbabubba1 [~Scott@h69-128-225-205.htspva.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] entered the room.
  (07:25:08 PM) _Jot_: live.cat5.tv never works for me! It always sits there, like it doesn't know what it wants me to do, even though it really knows I want it to clean up my house, paint the fence, and walk the dog
  (07:25:24 PM) ***agamotto chuckles
  (07:25:34 PM) Linius84 [55f64c29@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.246.76.41] entered the room.
  (07:25:39 PM) robgor: RobbieF I would like to send a cheers out to Garbee for help with my IPCameras the otherday
  (07:27:19 PM) GWG: agamotto: did i say hi
  (07:27:44 PM) agamotto: GWG- yes, you did. How are things lately?
  (07:27:48 PM) Guest_6017 [ae5d454e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.93.69.78] entered the room.
  (07:27:53 PM) invincibleMutant: i think this is not quicksynergy
  (07:28:00 PM) invincibleMutant: my screen is different
  (07:28:10 PM) invincibleMutant: what ver is this
  (07:28:28 PM) Dennis_Kelley: It was synergy version ????
  (07:28:28 PM) G_dog1985_: 1.3*
  (07:28:30 PM) agamotto: From the visual effects, I would say win 7 version
  (07:28:33 PM) Linius84: hi Robbie and Hillary
  (07:28:39 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Did not see the version number
  (07:28:52 PM) invincibleMutant: ic...
  (07:29:05 PM) invincibleMutant: server always having the keyboard
  (07:29:35 PM) Dennis_Kelley: I am using quicksynergy to run four computers!
  (07:29:40 PM) invincibleMutant: i saw the ip was x.x.x.254
  (07:29:46 PM) invincibleMutant: that is typically gateway
  (07:29:54 PM) invincibleMutant: or router ip
  (07:30:01 PM) agamotto: hmmm
  (07:30:02 PM) RachelX_: 4 computers dennis? Send one to me!
  (07:30:07 PM) SammySez: the only to protect a windows machine is to turn it off, and even that might be questionable
  (07:30:22 PM) Linius84: can you help me update vlc?
  (07:30:28 PM) agamotto: SammySez- finger cot over the Ethernet port....
  (07:30:29 PM) RachelX_: my desktop is only a pentium processor i have to turn it on half hour before i plan to use it
  (07:30:38 PM) Dennis_Kelley: RachelX - they are so old you would not want them. Also running Ubuntu 10.10
  (07:30:39 PM) RachelX_: really need to get a new one
  (07:30:42 PM) GWG: agamotto: Been very busy. Working now, doing employee evaluations
  (07:30:46 PM) GWG: Can't listen to the show
  (07:30:51 PM) RachelX_: i see, yeah i dont need another old beast
  (07:30:54 PM) _Jot_: pentiums are great! Especially with divide and conquer
  (07:30:57 PM) GWG: agamotto: You should come for my live show on Monday nights
  (07:31:11 PM) agamotto: Linius84- That is easy..... in a terminal, 'apt-get install vlc'
  (07:31:14 PM) Dennis_Kelley: But they run great using Ubuntu 10.10
  (07:31:18 PM) RachelX_: I see the news is on the cieling now
  (07:31:34 PM) invincibleMutant: updating is: sudo apt-get upgrade
  (07:31:58 PM) agamotto: GWG- I will look into that... still the audio Android-cast?
  (07:32:02 PM) invincibleMutant: that will upgrade everything available for upgrade
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  (07:32:33 PM) invincibleMutant: otherwise, you have add a new server for you vlc itself
  (07:32:36 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, does ubuntu TV have the show called 'Category5.tv' ?
  (07:32:40 PM) agamotto: True, but they did state they were only interested in updating vlc
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  (07:33:01 PM) agamotto: _Jot_- Way to early for that.... very alpha software at this point
  (07:33:03 PM) Newa [neva@dyn-xdsl-188-117-29-253.nebulazone.fi] entered the room.
  (07:33:07 PM) invincibleMutant: that we have to add a new repository server onto the update list
  (07:33:14 PM) Scorpio55: try adding vls ppa
  (07:33:21 PM) Scorpio55: vlc ppa
  (07:33:21 PM) invincibleMutant: vlc ppa
  (07:33:23 PM) Yazid1965 [43536adf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.83.106.223] entered the room.
  (07:33:26 PM) SammySez: what is the next LTS?
  (07:33:31 PM) agamotto: 12.04
  (07:33:34 PM) GoodGuy: 12.04
  (07:33:35 PM) G_dog1985_: 12.04
  (07:33:43 PM) SammySez: sweet - thx
  (07:33:43 PM) _Jot_: it will be out in april 1212
  (07:33:51 PM) _Jot_: 2012 even
  (07:33:54 PM) GoodGuy: 6 yrs instead of 3 this time
  (07:33:54 PM) _Jot_: too muh 12
  (07:33:54 PM) agamotto: I won't get exicted about Ubuntu TV until stuff like netflix is available
  (07:34:01 PM) SammySez: very good
  (07:34:08 PM) GWG: agamotto: Yes, but we now have an icecast server
  (07:34:12 PM) agamotto: Of course, netflix might be out of business by the
  (07:34:18 PM) agamotto: GWG- coolies
  (07:34:21 PM) GoodGuy: Netflix w/o DRM is a no-go iirc
  (07:34:24 PM) GWG: I am not touching UbuntuTV with a ten foot pole
  (07:34:29 PM) GWG: agamotto: Also #AndroidBuffet
  (07:34:50 PM) agamotto: GWG- Ok, I will aim for giving it a go next week
  (07:35:06 PM) agamotto: Hillary- If memory serves, she was actually in an episode of ST:TNG...
  (07:35:41 PM) _Jot_: problem with 'hardware' upgrades with such a tv, is that the connectors change each year, so you still need to buy a new tv each year if you want to upgrade, just like sockets etc on motherboards, I'm sure
  (07:35:43 PM) invincibleMutant: why not just buy a computer monitor?
  (07:35:45 PM) agamotto: GWG- What time on Mondays?
  (07:35:53 PM) GoodGuy: It has never worked in PC's.. why would TV's be any diff
  (07:36:19 PM) GWG: agamotto: 10PM EST www.androidbuffet.com/live
  (07:36:29 PM) agamotto: Oddly, ecobatteries wasn't covered by Spike for their CES stuff...
  (07:36:34 PM) GWG: agamotto: Garbee has stopped by. And live listeners get secret extras.
  (07:36:40 PM) GoodGuy: By the time most folks are willing to pay for upgrades, the mobo etc has changed
  (07:36:44 PM) invincibleMutant: guys, the ecoalkali works perfectly for me
  (07:36:47 PM) f8tality left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
  (07:37:34 PM) SammySez: I wonder if the occupy nut jobs are gonna scream that the Aplle CEO stands to personally take $378M as income this year - hee hee
  (07:37:48 PM) invincibleMutant: any new version of pogoplug to be given away...lol
  (07:37:49 PM) agamotto: SammySez- probably
  (07:37:49 PM) invincibleMutant: ?
  (07:38:12 PM) _Jot_: if you want to change your nick, type /nick newnickname
  (07:38:17 PM) _Jot_: to change your name to newnickname
  (07:38:19 PM) invincibleMutant: one of them is roobie !!!
  (07:38:20 PM) G_dog1985_: do /nick
  (07:38:30 PM) invincibleMutant: hi
  (07:38:57 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Any company that pays the CEO more than 20x the lowest paid employee can be complained about, I am sure.
  (07:39:14 PM) cengizomer: ad!
  (07:39:19 PM) Guest_7835: You can thank Qimo for some new guest. There was a link to your show
  (07:39:26 PM) OldGuyJim: The GIMP
  (07:39:30 PM) agamotto: Qimo?
  (07:39:42 PM) Guest_7835: Qimo Os
  (07:39:44 PM) OldGuyJim: Wonderful program.
  (07:39:45 PM) _Jot_: Qimo, http://www.qimo4kids.
  (07:40:00 PM) SammySez: I wouldn't know. Anyone that provides 10s of thousands of high paying jobs gets a pass in regards to their take in my opinion. Those that are envious and want to complain about it are completely free to start their own company. :)
  (07:40:05 PM) gsiegel [60f25afd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.242.90.253] entered the room.
  (07:40:06 PM) agamotto: Oh, the linux distro.... ok, get it now
  (07:40:14 PM) Linius84: hey Robbie can you help me update vlc?
  (07:40:34 PM) invincibleMutant: why not download from repo, downloading from the web is pointless
  (07:40:38 PM) agamotto: SammySez- key part of your statement is high-paying jobs....
  (07:40:42 PM) invincibleMutant: he is like father like son
  (07:40:45 PM) SammySez: and they are
  (07:40:51 PM) invincibleMutant: why he is not bald?
  (07:40:51 PM) RachelX_: hes not showing gimp again is he
  (07:40:57 PM) RachelX_: i was visiting, put on the gimp
  (07:41:04 PM) RachelX_: and almost pulled my hair out in frustration
  (07:41:12 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Which makes Apple one of the exceptions in America
  (07:41:20 PM) _Jot_: RachelX_, just assume he says 'photoshop' when he does that
  (07:41:33 PM) SammySez: same applies to low paying as well though. I started out at $1.75 / hour working 100 hours a week. But I built my own future from there.
  (07:41:35 PM) Scorpio55: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
  (07:42:02 PM) Linius84: is that a live wallpaper?
  (07:42:03 PM) RachelX_: 1.75 an hour? Where are you working? Chian?
  (07:42:06 PM) Guest_7835: How did Robbie get that active desktop
  (07:42:06 PM) RachelX_: China
  (07:42:10 PM) invincibleMutant: rachelx, you have to be like robbie (bald) to be expert in gimp !!!
  (07:42:14 PM) agamotto: 100 hours a week? Wow, I can't think of anything I like/love that much
  (07:42:32 PM) SammySez: an employer is not responsible for another's wealth. If pay is given in exchange for work agrred by both parties, it is nobody else's business.
  (07:42:54 PM) agamotto: True, but I expect to be able to live on a wage
  (07:43:08 PM) SammySez: My last year at MCI I "donated" 3300 unpaid overtime hours - 16 hours a day / 7 days a week, avg 110 hours per week.
  (07:43:09 PM) Guest_6017: FYI the Leafs are up 2-0 on Buffalo after the 1st! Thought you guys would want to know.
  (07:43:21 PM) Hillary: DUDE!
  (07:43:22 PM) SammySez: then go find a job that pays that. if your job doesn't pay that, move on
  (07:43:36 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Yep, i would not fit in there
  (07:43:56 PM) RachelX_: Guest Ive had my share of hockey for the week, watched Eric play on the weekend, now that was good for a laugh :D
  (07:43:59 PM) _Jot_: in my country minimumwage is like $10, but many people work for $2, the trick is the employer hires a foreign company to do the work, and then they send those people to do the work, paying their local minimumwage
  (07:44:05 PM) agamotto: SammySez- I have. Others aren't in a position to negotiate
  (07:44:19 PM) SammySez: it wasn't "mandatory" - we were providing a critical service to the deaf community - I did it based on principle, not on financial gain
  (07:44:46 PM) _Jot_: RachelX_, did his team win, did he make any goals?
  (07:44:50 PM) agamotto: SammySez- That would be a vital difference then. There is overtime, then there is volunteering
  (07:44:56 PM) RachelX_: They tied
  (07:45:07 PM) RachelX_: there was no scoreboard so i had to ask at the end who won
  (07:45:27 PM) _Jot_: I think Eric mentioned he never won, so I think he didn't :)
  (07:45:41 PM) RachelX_: he did a very graceful bellyflop
  (07:45:46 PM) SammySez: sure - but because I worked the hours, Ididn't demand extra pay - however that effort was rewarded later in my career - nobody gave it to me through threats or illegitimate government decree
  (07:46:16 PM) chrisreich: Ladies and gents the carpal tunnel pain is too much to bear tonight. I take my leave early to do my aching in a more comfortable place to recline. All my best to all of you. Be well.
  (07:46:33 PM) _Jot_: good luck chrisreich
  (07:46:33 PM) GoodGuy: Night chrisreich
  (07:46:33 PM) agamotto: chrisreich- rest in warmth
  (07:46:40 PM) G_dog1985_: i bbl
  (07:46:56 PM) GoodGuy: pain levels are way up here also... weather perhaps?
  (07:47:01 PM) agamotto: free-form select
  (07:47:02 PM) RachelX_: no way Robbie
  (07:47:04 PM) OldGuyJim: chrisreich...take care.
  (07:47:04 PM) _Jot_: sorry RachelX_, he did it again
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  (07:47:13 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- changing weather it wouldn't surprise me
  (07:47:31 PM) RachelX_: photoshop users know there are better ways then the lasso tool hehe
  (07:47:41 PM) Hillary: ha
  (07:47:56 PM) agamotto: Ok, Stuart!
  (07:48:03 PM) agamotto: 'Watch what I can do!!"
  (07:48:21 PM) invincibleMutant: RachelX got pissed off by this episode...lol way far in china
  (07:48:25 PM) GoodGuy: Photoshop users have ALOT less money in their pockets, so there are tradeoffs :-)
  (07:48:39 PM) _Jot_: I bet this is going to take 9 hours like building a computer, and then he still forgets stuff
  (07:48:47 PM) agamotto: I find them both equally confusing
  (07:48:50 PM) robgor: wow how cool RobbieF
  (07:48:57 PM) RachelX_: photoshop users who pay for their photoshop..... MWUAH HAHA
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  (07:49:28 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Gimp has other tools to use also RachelX
  (07:49:29 PM) SammySez: I just found the wonderful naultilus-image-utilities package this week. It came in very handy when rotating 1974 images at one time. ;)
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  (07:49:57 PM) agamotto: Or you could just hit 'undo?'
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  (07:50:43 PM) invincibleMutant: all photoshop users will feel that they are an idiot paying !!!
  (07:50:55 PM) invincibleMutant: not really indeed, paying means you get all the supports right
  (07:51:11 PM) invincibleMutant: but robbie is giving the support to gimp users now
  (07:51:14 PM) OldGuyJim: The problem with mixing images is not so much the cutting, but getting the lighting correct.
  (07:51:14 PM) invincibleMutant: thanks robbie
  (07:51:18 PM) agamotto: I imagine it is a matter of perceived value. I would lean more towards Photoshop for the hand-holding available.
  (07:51:39 PM) mathman47: Looks good, but he has no legs.
  (07:51:45 PM) _Jot_: if I had to do something in photoshop, I would just hire RachelX_ to do it
  (07:51:46 PM) agamotto: OldGuyJim- As some magazines are figuring out the hard way...
  (07:52:53 PM) OldGuyJim: You can change the light reflected from RobbieF's son, but it will take quite a while.
  (07:53:17 PM) invincibleMutant: put him on the great wall of china
  (07:53:36 PM) RachelX_: im surprised he didnt put him on the enterprise
  (07:53:50 PM) agamotto: RachelX_- Wait for it....
  (07:53:52 PM) _Jot_: don't let RobbieF hear it, he'll do the same all over again
  (07:53:58 PM) _Jot_: oops, too late
  (07:54:24 PM) invincibleMutant: add rachel to the picture of great wall...
  (07:54:41 PM) invincibleMutant: bekah will be suspicious !! :P
  (07:54:41 PM) RachelX_: i already have real photos on the great wall of china :)
  (07:54:57 PM) OldGuyJim: Good night folks...have a great evening!
  (07:55:02 PM) _Jot_: RachelX_, why did you put photos on the great wall of china?
  (07:55:10 PM) _Jot_: have a great week OldGuyJim
  (07:55:11 PM) RachelX_: wow he is so happy to be on that bench
  (07:55:34 PM) agamotto: For the same reason people stick papers w/prayers in the Wailing Wall?
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  (07:56:21 PM) Linius84: this program is cooler than photoshop because it's free
  (07:56:28 PM) _Jot_: Hillary, you could use it to paste your husband on all your pictures, like you've always known him
  (07:56:28 PM) invincibleMutant: how to put shadow !!!
  (07:56:38 PM) Hillary: truee say!
  (07:56:42 PM) RachelX_: cause that wouldn't be creepy at all
  (07:57:09 PM) SammySez: I think gimp is easier than PhotoShop as well, but I'm not using it to doctor up documents or anything - just basic stuff
  (07:57:19 PM) RachelX_: paintbrush and overlay and transparency, or the burn tool etc.
  (07:57:27 PM) agamotto: It is a shame when Robbie resorts to teaching people how to rasterbate photos... ;)
  (07:57:47 PM) Guest17108: RobbieF, I'm Harry and about 2 shows ago I sent a picture of my island which I forgot to put it's name, that is Puerto Rico
  (07:57:51 PM) RachelX_: photoshop is all they use in animation school
  (07:57:56 PM) RachelX_: say gimp and your out
  (07:57:57 PM) RachelX_: hehe
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  (07:58:10 PM) _Jot_: every time you say 'gimp' you get an F
  (07:58:15 PM) Guest17108: @RobbieF, I'm Harry and about 2 shows ago I sent a picture of my island which I forgot to put it's name, that is Puerto Rico
  (07:58:16 PM) agamotto: Hispanola?
  (07:58:21 PM) RachelX_: WHOA agamotto i soooo misread that
  (07:58:21 PM) GoodGuy: They use Maya also.. a friend son is trained in animation
  (07:58:22 PM) RachelX_: haha
  (07:58:29 PM) mathman47: I think the old adage "You get what you pay for" applies here. I use PSE 3, 9, & 10 + Lightroom 3.
  (07:58:36 PM) SammySez: Used to use Jasc Paint Shop Pro a while back - not sure if it is still around anymore though
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  (07:58:49 PM) agamotto: RachelX_- nah, you just have a dirty mind.
  (07:58:53 PM) GoodGuy: Corel owns it now.... I have a copy
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  (07:59:29 PM) GoodGuy: Paintshop Pro X3 - X4 is current now
  (07:59:31 PM) Yazid1965: Send mail.. LOL
  (07:59:45 PM) invincibleMutant: you like smell the card
  (07:59:57 PM) Guest17108: agamotto, hispanola or La Espanola would be Haiti and Dominican
  (07:59:58 PM) invincibleMutant: the local smell !!!
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  (08:00:02 PM) RachelX_: I remember when i used to do my art in paint.....
  (08:00:03 PM) SammySez: is it still as easy to use? I miss PSP since all but abandoning Windows
  (08:00:06 PM) Guest17108: Republic
  (08:00:08 PM) agamotto: Guest17108- I stand corrected
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  (08:00:16 PM) Yazid1965: Holla
  (08:00:16 PM) GoodGuy: I got Paintshop and the Video one for $29 on Newegg a few months ago.. never used it though
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  (08:00:23 PM) invincibleMutant: great show...
  (08:00:37 PM) GoodGuy: Corel usually complicates anything they touch
  (08:00:38 PM) SammySez: the multicam thing is cool
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  (08:00:43 PM) invincibleMutant: robbie, putting shadow is always hard..
  (08:00:44 PM) Guest17108: No Prob.
  (08:00:46 PM) mathman47: Bye guys. See you next week. Great show.
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  (08:00:52 PM) GoodGuy: Nite mathman47
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  (08:01:02 PM) Linius84: bye everybody
  (08:01:05 PM) SammySez: GoodGuy - sounds like Microsoft. Visio used to work pretty well too. :)
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  (08:02:02 PM) robgor: Great Show RobbieF/Hillary
  (08:02:07 PM) GWG: Was it?
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  (08:02:10 PM) GWG: I trust you
  (08:02:21 PM) GoodGuy: I have a OEM copy of Visio befor MS bought it.... Never used that either.. I was a programmer at the time, but had to retire, so I didnt need to use it
  (08:02:25 PM) ***agamotto chuckles
  (08:02:34 PM) Hillary: Thanks everyone for watching! have a great week!
  (08:02:42 PM) RobbieF: thanks everyone!
  (08:02:51 PM) agamotto: It was definitely more informative than the CES coverage I zipped through.
  (08:02:52 PM) Guest17108: I can't believ I'm off on a tuesday, and couldn't see the show,,,,I'm sooo mad at myself
  (08:02:54 PM) _Jot_: thank you Hillary and RobbieF
  (08:02:59 PM) GoodGuy: Thank you Hillary .. Give our best to your future husband as well
  (08:03:10 PM) Hillary: toodalooooo! see you later! and thanks for your well wishes! :)
  (08:03:17 PM) SammySez: Visio is still cool - just Microsofted so tings that used to make sense now are harder to find or figure out.
  (08:03:30 PM) _Jot_: Guest17108, at least you can spy on the backstagepass still, so you're not missing everthing, and you're in the chatroom
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