Category5.TV Episode 223

Recorded Live December 27, 2011.


  • Using Compiz to customize a Debian installation, giving you a custom Linux desktop.
This episode is sponsored in part by: Liquid Image, Garden Gate Farms, Planet Calypso & Pogoplug.

Topics Covered:

  • Robbie Ferguson and Eric Kidd present live from the Category5 studios in Barrie, Ontario. Rachel Xu makes a surprise appearance ... as a Vulcan.
  • The co-host computer exploded 15 minutes before the show.
  • Viewer Postcard.
  • Strange observance: The postal system gets a post card from Germany to Barrie faster than from Barrie to Bracebridge.
  • Eric's Christmas do.
  • Robbie's new Mountain Dulcimer.
  • Greetings to Dennis Kelley's wife.
  • Viewer Question: How should I best use my external hard drive for music and movies on my Linux system?
  • Thoughts to contemplate about the speed of external hard drives (why you wouldn't mount it as your Linux home folder).
  • Viewer Question: How do I get Netflix running on Linux? Do I have to install a virtual machine with Windows?
  • Rachel Xu shows up and starts dancing like a Vulcan.
  • Top stories from the Category5.TV Newsroom.
  • Feature: Customizing Debian Linux with Compiz to give you a custom Linux desktop.
  • Using Synaptic Package Manager to install the Compiz packages we'll need to customize our Debian Linux desktop with effects and beautification.
  • Loading Compiz on Debian.
  • Using CompizConfig Settings Manager to enable animations and more.
  • Configuring specific animations for your Debian desktop.
  • Eric's Question: Is Compiz using a lot of processor power?
  • Enabling and configuring the desktop cube effect in Debian Linux.
  • Virtual desktops: the ultimate boss key.
  • How to fix it if you're unable to move windows after enabling Compiz on Debian.
  • Fixing the missing titlebar in Compiz with the Window Decoration plugin.
  • How to enable the cool Desktop Zoom features of Compiz.
  • Viewer Question: Is there a distro that is good for young kids?
  • Viewer Question: Does Compiz work in Gnome Classic?
  • The 3D Windows plugin for Compiz adds a cool effect to your Desktop Cube.
  • Making your desktop a gradient in Debian without an image.
  • Using the Expo plugin on Compiz allows you to see all desktops at once and move applications among virtual desktops.
  • Using the Wobbly Windows plugin to give you [you guessed it] wobbly windows on Compiz.
  • Using Random.org to pick a random number.
  • Eric's son bought an iMac.
  • Viruses, antivirus, and the Mac.
  • Viewer Comment: Run your Mac as a user, not administrator.
  • Viewer Comment: There are trojans for Mac, but not "viruses" per se.
  • Viewer Question: Do you have any suggestions for speeding up read/write access to a NAS device?
  • Viewer Question: Would green drives slow down my NAS?

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    (06:58:50 PM) EricKidd: Are you comparing me to a fruitbasket?
    (06:59:06 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, yes
    (06:59:08 PM) Garbee: Do I see an intel sticker on that laptop?
    (06:59:18 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, it's because you are both very nice to see
    (06:59:34 PM) _Jot_: as in, fun, entertaining, etc
    (07:00:03 PM) RobbieF: gonna be late
    (07:00:33 PM) EricKidd: It's not eric's fault (this time).
    (07:00:34 PM) _Jot_: we understand Robbie, you have to practice two, two, three all of a sudden, after you took weeks for two, two, two
    (07:00:38 PM) loadedfastman: i am trying to find the link for the live episode but have yet to find it
    (07:00:49 PM) GoodGuy [~goodguy98@c-98-209-101-142.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] entered the room.
    (07:00:58 PM) _Jot_: loadedfastman, http://live.cat5.tv
    (07:01:07 PM) ajamison5579 [~Andrew@24-236-169-217.dhcp.monr.mi.charter.com] entered the room.
    (07:01:09 PM) raptor222: http://www.robbief.com/tv/viewer.html
    (07:01:15 PM) maxwell6307: i just saw yous
    (07:01:19 PM) u-al [~chatzilla@c-71-199-121-84.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] entered the room.
    (07:01:19 PM) RobbieF: http://live.cat5.tv
    (07:01:32 PM) EricKidd: We're having technical issues...will be up as soon as possible
    (07:01:36 PM) loadedfastman: ok found that
    (07:01:39 PM) Garbee has changed the topic to: www.Category5.TV | Join us for the final episode of the year, tonight! | Delay in starting tonight, Technical issues. Sorry for the wait.
    (07:02:09 PM) EricKidd: Are we having fun yet?
    (07:02:27 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, yeah!
    (07:02:27 PM) maxwell6307: sure are
    (07:02:27 PM) raptor222: yaaaaaay!:-(
    (07:02:38 PM) EricKidd: woot!
    (07:02:44 PM) Garbee: No EricKidd, I had to chase my dogs around since they kep chasing cars, then got all muddy, wet, and cold.
    (07:02:46 PM) robgor: Hi Eric, RobbieF
    (07:02:56 PM) Garbee: At least the shower felt great after that.
    (07:02:58 PM) _Jot_: Garbee, what do they do with them after they catch the cars?
    (07:03:03 PM) loadedfastman: i am new and have been watching shows from the past most helpful
    (07:03:10 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, did you see last weeks show?
    (07:03:11 PM) Garbee: Jot, they get the drivers to pet them.
    (07:03:29 PM) Dennis_Kelley: almost
    (07:03:35 PM) davetech [4cac3dd5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.172.61.213] entered the room.
    (07:04:10 PM) thiebaude [41bcfdf3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.188.253.243] entered the room.
    (07:04:14 PM) Garbee: The show will go live once EricKidd learns how to use a trackpad and keyboard.
    (07:04:15 PM) loadedfastman: are they still running on the temp server or did they get a new one
    (07:04:15 PM) EricKidd: I did not see last week's show. I'm a baaad part-time co-host.
    (07:04:34 PM) Garbee: loadedfastman, New server has been running for weeks.
    (07:04:34 PM) davetech: LOL
    (07:04:35 PM) robgor: is the technical issues due to the cold? need to come to Melbourne, Australia nice and warm here LOL
    (07:04:36 PM) EricKidd: The server's great. It's not that.
    (07:04:36 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, you missed an important message! It started around 53:00 into the show
    (07:04:39 PM) RobbieF: count from 20
    (07:04:40 PM) loadedfastman: ok
    (07:04:44 PM) Scorpio55 [~rwnash@5ac062d7.bb.sky.com] entered the room.
    (07:04:49 PM) Dennis_Kelley: EricKidd you know you can download the episodes you miss!
    (07:04:53 PM) ajamison5579: must be a bit delayed
    (07:04:54 PM) gsiegel [60f25afd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.242.90.253] entered the room.
    (07:05:02 PM) thiebaude left the room (quit: Client Quit).
    (07:05:05 PM) Garbee: ajamison5579, it is, 5 min past. Tech issues.
    (07:05:06 PM) gpop7 [4cc1bf18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.193.191.24] entered the room.
    (07:05:13 PM) _Jot_: here we go!
    (07:05:15 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Here we go!!
    (07:05:17 PM) _Jot_: http://live.cat5.tv
    (07:05:19 PM) davetech: YAY!
    (07:05:28 PM) Garbee has changed the topic to: www.Category5.TV | Final episode of the year, NOW!
    (07:05:29 PM) maxwell6307: yee haww
    (07:05:30 PM) robgor: :)
    (07:05:32 PM) EricKidd: We're heeeere
    (07:05:33 PM) Dennis_Kelley: _Jot_ stop coping me!
    (07:05:41 PM) Dennis_Kelley: copying me!!
    (07:05:44 PM) _Jot_: _Jot_ stop copying me!
    (07:05:51 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Funny!
    (07:06:19 PM) Dennis_Kelley: its the hair that is higher - EricKidd
    (07:06:28 PM) robgor: no RobbieF its December 28th Iam in the future LOL
    (07:06:43 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, Don't forget you have a beard!
    (07:06:51 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Bangs are bad!
    (07:07:01 PM) chrisreich [~Chris@cpe-74-69-47-56.rochester.res.rr.com] entered the room.
    (07:07:02 PM) robgor: did it have magic smoke
    (07:07:29 PM) Garbee: RobbieF, The computer got a cold.
    (07:07:38 PM) Dennis_Kelley: RobbieF - so that is why you missed the links on the main page!!
    (07:07:41 PM) gsiegel: and playing guitar
    (07:07:51 PM) chrisreich: People of Earth, Greetings.
    (07:07:58 PM) loadedfastman: hello
    (07:07:58 PM) Guest_6857 [18bdde20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.189.222.32] entered the room.
    (07:08:08 PM) Domenic: yeah! finally they drop sun java
    (07:08:16 PM) Dennis_Kelley: now we know why there was a bang, there was Java in it!!
    (07:08:26 PM) Dave-Maydew [~dave@5aded8cc.bb.sky.com] entered the room.
    (07:08:31 PM) loadedfastman: we still on hold
    (07:08:37 PM) _Jot_: a million dollar is worth about 5 euros
    (07:08:46 PM) Dave-Maydew: Evening all
    (07:08:56 PM) GoodGuy: Oracle themselves is switching to OpenJDK iirc
    (07:09:03 PM) Garbee: Wow, a 15 second delay for me between BSP and the live stream.
    (07:09:05 PM) _Jot_: nice card Raffer
    (07:09:13 PM) Raffer: thank
    (07:09:14 PM) _Jot_: hi Dave
    (07:09:22 PM) loadedfastman: no live feed for me
    (07:09:24 PM) davetech: HI!
    (07:09:33 PM) Trekkie00: transcription would be keel
    (07:09:34 PM) Domenic: kiel is great
    (07:09:35 PM) Raffer: close
    (07:09:37 PM) chrisreich: spell it
    (07:09:50 PM) GoodGuy: Martians can't get any love :-(
    (07:09:51 PM) maxwell6307: is anyone else seeing this in slow motion?
    (07:10:08 PM) _Jot_: not me maxwell6307
    (07:10:13 PM) Dennis_Kelley: no maxwell6307, looks great here!
    (07:10:15 PM) robgor: no its fine for me maxwell
    (07:10:15 PM) GoodGuy: Seems fine here maxwell6307
    (07:10:18 PM) chrisreich: Martians get ALL the LOVE!
    (07:10:30 PM) Raffer: when did it arrive RobbieF
    (07:10:30 PM) maxwell6307: must be my slow computer
    (07:10:34 PM) Garbee: Refresh gained me 15 seconds, yes!
    (07:10:35 PM) Guest_5029 is now known as jimgreg
    (07:10:39 PM) smittysmit [4ce27b6d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.226.123.109] entered the room.
    (07:12:29 PM) loadedfastman: even the on air link loaded nothing
    (07:12:30 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Overeating is part of Christmas Dinner!
    (07:12:35 PM) Garbee: Once again, we will get NOTHING done this episode.
    (07:12:35 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, if you get me a planeticket, I'll come over
    (07:12:39 PM) GeorgeB [44e7aeaa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.231.174.170] entered the room.
    (07:12:46 PM) chrisreich: I'm too old to overeat anymore.
    (07:12:47 PM) Dave-Maydew: Anyone know of a good IRC app for Android????
    (07:12:50 PM) _Jot_: loadedfastman, sorry it didn't load fast, man
    (07:12:59 PM) loadedfastman: lol
    (07:13:01 PM) Garbee: So great to have EricKidd.
    (07:13:18 PM) loadedfastman: but for real it is just blank here
    (07:13:52 PM) chrisreich: Garbee - that's what SHE said...
    (07:13:53 PM) _Jot_: loadedfastman, you can try the justin.tv link, or the ustream link, usually one or the other works
    (07:14:03 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Sweet!
    (07:14:10 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Play it RobbieF
    (07:14:21 PM) smittysmit left the room (quit: Client Quit).
    (07:14:48 PM) ajamison5579: a Lute?
    (07:14:48 PM) gsiegel: solo by eric time
    (07:14:51 PM) chrisreich: Play that funky music, bald boy!
    (07:15:05 PM) smittysmit [4ce27b6d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.226.123.109] entered the room.
    (07:15:09 PM) gsiegel: The new theme song to cat5
    (07:15:13 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Great Job EricKidd
    (07:15:42 PM) chrisreich: that's a dulcimer
    (07:15:44 PM) smittysmit: Hello all...running a bit late.
    (07:15:45 PM) Dennis_Kelley: EricKidd - if you watch backstage pass you can see you play it!
    (07:15:51 PM) Guest_1772moment: Has Robbie lost weight or is that just a big mug? nice new toy Robbie
    (07:15:56 PM) _Jot_: hey smittysmit, the show was 5 minutes late too, so no problem :)
    (07:16:11 PM) chrisreich: I was answering ajamison5579, EricKidd
    (07:16:11 PM) Dennis_Kelley: nice Guest_1772moment
    (07:16:25 PM) _Jot_: Guest_1772moment, Robbie gained weight! It's a 3d-effect that makes it look like that
    (07:16:54 PM) gsiegel: how about some old school Run DMC Rap
    (07:17:12 PM) maxwell6307: need a bass player ?
    (07:17:34 PM) chrisreich: Best video of all time was "Addicted to Love" by Robert Palmer.
    (07:17:41 PM) gsiegel: great piece yes1
    (07:17:55 PM) loadedfastman: is there anything specal need to be added to the basic ubuntu 10.11 to watch the show
    (07:17:56 PM) robgor: EricKidd I agree thats a great video clip
    (07:18:05 PM) chrisreich: Debian!!! a real man's Linux!
    (07:18:12 PM) GoodGuy: Tiny Core Linux?
    (07:18:13 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, I want to see a videoclip of you performing!
    (07:18:27 PM) raptor222: chrisreich: ARRRRRRG!
    (07:18:33 PM) Domenic: chrisreich, lfs - a real man's Linux ;)
    (07:18:41 PM) Trekkie00: :)
    (07:19:07 PM) Dennis_Kelley: RobbieF - Say hi to my Wife!
    (07:19:17 PM) Trekkie00: would be nice. Robbie doing workshop on lfs
    (07:19:19 PM) maxwell6307: lol
    (07:19:27 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Beverly
    (07:19:44 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Say hi EricKidd
    (07:19:53 PM) chrisreich: Actually, if anyone checks sourceforge.net, they'll see my name as the project leader for New World Linux.
    (07:20:13 PM) _Jot_: is that good or bad, chrisreich?
    (07:20:13 PM) Trekkie00: lol
    (07:20:37 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Sorry everyone for the shout out to my wife!
    (07:20:40 PM) chrisreich: Domenic, have you read LFS? I have - that's for superstars.
    (07:20:54 PM) _Jot_: Dennis_Kelley, don't worry about it, if Robbie didn't want to do it, he'd ignore it :)
    (07:21:08 PM) Dennis_Kelley: _Jot_ - True That!
    (07:21:11 PM) _Jot_: after all, it's a community-show, and everybody is a part of it
    (07:21:18 PM) Domenic: chrisreich, nope... that's way to complicated...
    (07:21:18 PM) robgor: Hey RobbieF thanks for the answers about the video cameras and NAS from a few shows ago, Robert from Melbourne, Australia
    (07:21:33 PM) chrisreich: well I've been disappointed not to have received ANY feedback whatsoever on New World Linux _Jot_.
    (07:21:38 PM) Dennis_Kelley: EricKidd is ad libbing again
    (07:21:43 PM) brimurray [5eae905c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.174.144.92] entered the room.
    (07:22:21 PM) loadedfastman left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
    (07:23:09 PM) brimurray: Hi all seasons greetings from Brimurray watching LIVE for first time! Edinburgh Scotland
    (07:23:30 PM) Dennis_Kelley: Hello brimurray
    (07:23:36 PM) _Jot_: chrisreich, google doesn't even know about it
    (07:23:48 PM) gsiegel: lets all great bracelets that say WWRD - What would robbie do ?
    (07:23:49 PM) chrisreich: about what?
    (07:24:00 PM) _Jot_: chrisreich, about your linux
    (07:24:08 PM) Garbee: Is EricKidd lost here?
    (07:24:21 PM) chrisreich: I don't use Google. I said go to sourceforge.net
    (07:24:34 PM) _Jot_: Garbee, the speed of which he is writing things to google later, I'd say definatly
    (07:24:38 PM) Guest_9931 [522764c9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.39.100.201] entered the room.
    (07:24:51 PM) G_dog1985 [~kvirc@71-13-210-140.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] entered the room.
    (07:24:51 PM) Garbee: Notes?! Don't you mean drawing?
    (07:25:06 PM) Garbee: haha
    (07:25:17 PM) chrisreich: gsiegel I like your idea, but with t-shirts.
    (07:25:19 PM) robgor: nice one RobbieF
    (07:25:21 PM) raptor222: EricKidd: was alienified!
    (07:25:29 PM) G_dog1985 is now known as G_dog1985_
    (07:25:43 PM) Guest_1772moment: Chatroom is on tonight ;)
    (07:25:49 PM) _Jot_: chrisreich, sorry to say, I went to sourceforge.net, typed new world linux, and no results
    (07:25:50 PM) Garbee: I like WWLTD more.
    (07:25:58 PM) Garbee: (What Would Linus Torvalds Do)
    (07:26:03 PM) chrisreich: hold on...
    (07:26:06 PM) mode (+o G_dog1985_) by ChanServ
    (07:26:13 PM) gsiegel: Yes they should be on cat5 store
    (07:27:20 PM) Garbee: Virtual Machine.
    (07:27:39 PM) Trekkie00: is netflix drm?
    (07:27:43 PM) brimurray left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 258 seconds).
    (07:27:49 PM) Garbee: Netflix won't support Linux until sometime next year, and that is only because of Win 8 using IE 10 Immersive.
    (07:27:55 PM) raptor222: He can't, No kernel support for netflix DRM.
    (07:28:00 PM) Garbee: Trekkie00, Yes, it is.
    (07:28:23 PM) Garbee: raptor222, It isn't because of Kernel, it is because of silverlight.
    (07:28:23 PM) Trekkie00: garbee thx
    (07:28:43 PM) raptor222: Garbee Both are true actually.
    (07:28:54 PM) Garbee: Silverlight won't run on Linux, and Moonlight does not have access to Silverlight DRM, which is the issue.
    (07:29:55 PM) Trekkie00: that´s the point garbee
    (07:30:20 PM) chrisreich: Mmmm... I cannot log into sourceforge.net. It says no such account exists.
    (07:30:27 PM) Garbee: If MS would license the DRM to Moonlight,then yes, we could watch Netflix on Linux, but they won't.
    (07:30:31 PM) raptor222: ???
    (07:30:42 PM) Dennis_Kelley: What the...
    (07:30:47 PM) gsiegel: did someone say weather ? Where is kristy when you need her?
    (07:30:48 PM) Garbee: Rachel Xu?
    (07:30:51 PM) smittysmit: It's all DRM....Only the lawyers win.
    (07:31:38 PM) raptor222: RobbieF, can I throw something in the news: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNjQ
    (07:31:41 PM) Garbee: That just sucks.
    (07:32:03 PM) Trekkie00: no didtribution is allowed to distribute sun java any longer
    (07:32:04 PM) raptor222: *?
    (07:32:22 PM) Garbee: raptor222, You would need to email to newsroom@category5.tv before the show.
    (07:32:38 PM) raptor222: ok
    (07:32:41 PM) chrisreich: _Jot_ It seems that sourceforge.net may have purged their less active accounts. Thanks for letting me know.
    (07:32:42 PM) Dennis_Kelley: BRB
    (07:32:45 PM) Dennis_Kelley left the room.
    (07:32:56 PM) _Jot_: chrisreich, sorry for being the bringer of not so good news
    (07:33:00 PM) Scorpio55: raptor222 that story was dec 11th
    (07:33:08 PM) as759 left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
    (07:33:11 PM) Scorpio55: already covered
    (07:33:14 PM) Dennis_Kelley1 [~dennis@c-69-246-78-113.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] entered the room.
    (07:33:19 PM) chrisreich: relax _Jot_ I'd rather know about it than not know about it.
    (07:33:25 PM) Dave-Maydew left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving).
    (07:33:42 PM) raptor222: true enough Scorpio55, but still worth while mentioning.
    (07:33:54 PM) brimurray [5eae905c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.174.144.92] entered the room.
    (07:33:55 PM) Trekkie00: but coming back to netflix drm
    (07:34:02 PM) Trekkie00: it´s the same with maxdome
    (07:34:20 PM) swissandi [~swissandi@177-40.202-62.fix.bluewin.ch] entered the room.
    (07:35:18 PM) Scorpio55: rapto222 it was already covered in the newsroom or Robbie didn't use thestory
    (07:35:28 PM) loadedfastman [625f81b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.95.129.182] entered the room.
    (07:35:50 PM) loadedfastman: hello all
    (07:36:01 PM) Garbee: I have Papa Johns on the way! I hope it arrives before the end of the show.
    (07:36:37 PM) G_dog1985_: haha
    (07:36:45 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, NICE!
    (07:36:50 PM) Garbee: haha
    (07:36:53 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd falls under the ancient age-bracket
    (07:37:14 PM) gsiegel: it better be Guiness
    (07:37:14 PM) loadedfastman: any reason known for pink video screen on feeds
    (07:37:21 PM) chrisreich: "You look Canadian, have beer"
    (07:37:21 PM) Garbee: RobbieF, Better, "You look like EricKidd, have an American! "
    (07:37:29 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Does anyone know how to disable requiring a password when logging into ubuntu 10.10
    (07:37:33 PM) _Jot_: loadedfastman, could be flash, but usually that means connection not so good
    (07:37:45 PM) Garbee: or an anti-american person as Eric would prefer it according to Youtube.
    (07:37:49 PM) _Jot_: Garbee, are you sure? according to youtube, EricKidd is anti-american
    (07:37:52 PM) GoodGuy: Auto Login Dennis_Kelley1
    (07:37:54 PM) Guest_1772moment: go erickider
    (07:38:06 PM) chrisreich: Is it Wheat? Is it Grass? Is it Juice? I don't know, YOU try it!
    (07:38:08 PM) gsiegel: If Google was making it , it might say " Your Eric Kidd - ant-american" lol
    (07:38:22 PM) Garbee: Haha " No wonder that they shortened it"
    (07:38:27 PM) GoodGuy: It was an option during install... not sure where it is located after install
    (07:38:30 PM) Garbee: SO many lolz.
    (07:38:50 PM) imagination [~User@85.210.71.83] entered the room.
    (07:38:59 PM) G_dog1985_: wow
    (07:39:01 PM) gsiegel: We love you Eric
    (07:39:05 PM) GoodGuy: Try Administration/Login Screen
    (07:39:18 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, Look at crime rates in Canada compared to US... You should be scared to cross-over.
    (07:39:29 PM) GoodGuy: I use PinguyOS, but it is similar to Ubuntu
    (07:39:39 PM) Garbee: Father
    (07:39:40 PM) Garbee: ?
    (07:39:43 PM) swissandi: mother
    (07:39:54 PM) chrisreich: I endorse PinguyOS
    (07:40:01 PM) gsiegel: That is spock calling.. he wants his vulcan back
    (07:40:02 PM) chrisreich: "Ubuntu is an ancient African word that means 'I can't configure Debian'", - Nick Francesco, September 2009
    (07:40:06 PM) davetech: Pinguy OS rocks!
    (07:40:10 PM) Garbee: I have had so many issues getting Debian installed on a multi-disc setup.
    (07:40:17 PM) Garbee: All relating to GRUB.
    (07:40:20 PM) GoodGuy: I like it also
    (07:40:29 PM) Garbee: Lilo works fine, but I don't want that.
    (07:40:46 PM) _Jot_: lol, Robbie posted my testimonial on the website
    (07:40:52 PM) Scorpio55: Freezy Linux is one to watch better than mint
    (07:40:58 PM) loadedfastman: the problem that i found with debain is that it will not support wireless
    (07:41:51 PM) maxwell6307: is it gnome 3?
    (07:41:56 PM) Domenic: nope
    (07:42:03 PM) _Jot_: I wonder if it has Java, because of that news-item
    (07:42:03 PM) gsiegel: Open office going by bye I read today on opensource.com
    (07:42:08 PM) loadedfastman: or it wouldn't support wna1100 wirelessly
    (07:42:09 PM) Domenic: gnome 3 is coming to debian unstanlr
    (07:42:14 PM) Domenic: unstable
    (07:42:31 PM) Trekkie00: does oneiric still have sun java?
    (07:42:52 PM) G_dog1985_: lol
    (07:42:54 PM) Domenic: the problem with debien is that it needs soo much time to get fresh, updated packages
    (07:42:56 PM) Garbee: Scorpio55, Looks like Freezy is using fallback mode, which is not good since it won't be there in 2 or 3 revisions of Gnome 3. Perhaps even the next now that Software rendering is working.
    (07:43:01 PM) Scorpio55: gnome 2 is antiquated now
    (07:43:27 PM) Garbee: Trekkie00, It might, but will be removed in their update.
    (07:43:35 PM) raptor222: It's one of those shows!
    (07:43:37 PM) Trekkie00: ah ok
    (07:43:59 PM) Garbee: Nice thougth though.
    (07:44:00 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, please tell Rachel: geez RachelXu! don't touch the vulcan, they are touch-telepaths, respect their boundaries!
    (07:44:26 PM) Garbee: Freezy seems to have gotten some of the theme issues fixed with using Fallback mode.
    (07:44:26 PM) Scorpio55: Freezy is Gnome 3 GTK 3
    (07:45:05 PM) swissandi: Xu-buntu
    (07:45:11 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: I reinstalled Ubuntu 10.10
    (07:45:55 PM) G_dog1985_: RobbieF: i am look for a linux distro for a 5yr what distro would be good ?
    (07:46:15 PM) gsiegel: Nice review ot compiz too
    (07:46:33 PM) G_dog1985_: for my newphew
    (07:46:39 PM) Garbee: G_dog1985_, A rolling-release distro such as Arch or Gentoo, or wait for the Ubuntu 12.04 rounds and pick one. Also CentOS would be nice, but updates are very slow.
    (07:47:31 PM) gsiegel: CentOS = Redhat without branding
    (07:47:43 PM) Garbee: Yes, that is why updates are slow.
    (07:47:44 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, I saw a burning-effect, is that the same as EricKidd's laptop earlier?
    (07:47:48 PM) G_dog1985_: Garbee: my newphew is 5yr for edu
    (07:47:50 PM) loadedfastman: what about fedora
    (07:47:56 PM) chrisreich: G_dog1985 Scientific Linux is practically a CentOS clone
    (07:48:05 PM) Garbee: G_dog1985_, Oh, you meant a 5 year old.
    (07:48:12 PM) G_dog1985_: yep
    (07:48:14 PM) Garbee: I thought you meant 5 year support.
    (07:48:20 PM) Garbee: THen try Edubuntu.
    (07:48:21 PM) G_dog1985_: nope
    (07:48:21 PM) gsiegel: yes, but great for using to study for redhat exams
    (07:48:35 PM) swissandi: not a 5 year old pc
    (07:48:35 PM) Garbee: It is built for educational purposes.
    (07:48:45 PM) loadedfastman: theres like sone school linux
    (07:49:05 PM) loadedfastman: k-12 progret
    (07:49:23 PM) Garbee: G_dog1985_, Here is a good list as well, http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/43224.aspx
    (07:49:41 PM) G_dog1985_: nice
    (07:49:52 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, you can also buy a bigger monitor with a higher resolution
    (07:49:56 PM) Domenic: it would be awesome if xfce would support compiz
    (07:50:16 PM) loadedfastman: https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/
    (07:50:30 PM) chrisreich: compiz never helped me get any work done. I don't install it.
    (07:50:30 PM) smittysmit: I use a Kwnsington moube and change with the scroll ring
    (07:50:32 PM) loadedfastman: that is the organal k-12 project
    (07:50:52 PM) Garbee: Domenic, It is the other way around, Compiz needs to support XFCE. XFCE is fully capable, someone simply needs to want to develope it for that DE.
    (07:51:10 PM) Domenic: mh
    (07:51:28 PM) Domenic: well i asked google and now it told me it's possible
    (07:51:32 PM) Domenic: let's try
    (07:52:15 PM) maxwell6307: does compize work in gnome classic?
    (07:52:29 PM) Trekkie00: should work
    (07:52:57 PM) Garbee: Domenic, Don't do the pacman command, since that is their package management, try this guide to get XFCE + Compiz work, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz#XFCE
    (07:53:01 PM) maxwell6307: thanks
    (07:53:13 PM) Domenic: i'm on xubuntu ;)
    (07:53:23 PM) Domenic: http://www.ghacks.net/2010/07/11/run-compiz-with-xfce4/ -> i try this method
    (07:53:46 PM) Garbee: Pizza is here.
    (07:53:55 PM) swissandi: :))
    (07:54:01 PM) _Jot_: yay! I was getting hungry
    (07:54:18 PM) davetech: @EricKidd can you use different themes on the window border in with compiz installed?
    (07:55:02 PM) Trekkie00: yes
    (07:55:14 PM) gsiegel: LOL
    (07:55:15 PM) Guest_1772moment: My Side! My Side! Must to go wee!!! :D
    (07:55:16 PM) Trekkie00: i think it´s called emerald
    (07:55:28 PM) Trekkie00: @davetech
    (07:55:38 PM) davetech: Oh that's right!
    (07:55:40 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, I am going to win again anyway, why bother?
    (07:55:42 PM) gsiegel: Robbie has been 'de feated' by Rachel
    (07:55:45 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Happy New Year! to the Gang!
    (07:56:23 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: _Jot_ - if you win again, can I have one of your many Pogoplugs?
    (07:56:38 PM) _Jot_: Dennis_kelley1, if I really win again, I'm going to make RobbieF do it again
    (07:56:59 PM) loadedfastman: this is crazy i can watch this show on windows but not on linux
    (07:57:43 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Sweet
    (07:57:47 PM) _Jot_: loadedfastman, sometimes linux has flash issues
    (07:57:52 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Awsome!!
    (07:57:54 PM) smittysmit: Congrats...
    (07:57:59 PM) robgor: congrats dennis
    (07:58:02 PM) _Jot_: Dennis_kelley1, so, can I have one of your many Pogoplugs? Oh wait, you wanted mine, well, there you go
    (07:58:03 PM) swissandi: yay
    (07:58:11 PM) _Jot_: congrats Dennis :)
    (07:58:15 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Tanks!!
    (07:58:18 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Thanks!
    (07:58:24 PM) Garbee: No beer?
    (07:58:30 PM) swissandi: hehe
    (07:58:36 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Pull the Popper!!
    (07:58:53 PM) gsiegel: Cheers!
    (07:58:55 PM) loadedfastman: would it be firefox
    (07:59:05 PM) New2_Linux left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
    (07:59:18 PM) Guest_1772moment: Robbie, I have installed trial version 11.04 on a 4 Gig thumb drive. After about a week I have used up all my space. I keep all my files on a separate thumb drive. But still I run out of space. I find that Ubuntu keeps a lot of thumb nails, (well over a Gig.) So I trash em. I go back into the thumbnail folder and find it has not trashed them, but doubled them. Is there a “C Cleaner” for Ubuntu. Or a system restore
    (07:59:28 PM) chrisreich: Apple is NOT the dark side!
    (07:59:55 PM) raptor222: Yes they are chrisreich, pure tech evil!!
    (08:00:00 PM) _Jot_: that's right! Even the dark side has something attractive for some people, apple doesn't
    (08:00:11 PM) chrisreich: I stand my ground
    (08:00:33 PM) swissandi: getting popcorn
    (08:00:48 PM) robgor: Eric Kidd heard that when I was at a computer store a salesman said that to a customer, I felt like saying crap
    (08:01:17 PM) chrisreich: Eric tell your son to run as a user and not as an administrator and he'll be fine.
    (08:01:47 PM) GoodGuy: BleachBit Guest_1772moment
    (08:02:09 PM) chrisreich: Robbie there are NO Mac viruses. Trojans yes, not viruses.
    (08:02:15 PM) rfbaum left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
    (08:02:19 PM) Trekkie00: but be careful with bleachbit especially when running as root
    (08:02:47 PM) Guest_1772moment: BleachBit? thank you
    (08:02:52 PM) Garbee: I do everything.
    (08:02:56 PM) robgor: Hey RobbieF any suggestions for speeding up read/write to a NAS device
    (08:03:06 PM) GoodGuy: Yes.. in the repositories
    (08:03:28 PM) chrisreich: depends where the bottleneck is.
    (08:03:42 PM) robgor: ubuntu with a gigabit switch a readynas nv+ NAS
    (08:03:45 PM) _Jot_: many NAS devices are just very slow because they have slow processors
    (08:04:30 PM) _Jot_: robgor, you might want to check online to see speedtests of that device, and see what the max speed is, most likely you're already hitting it
    (08:04:38 PM) robgor: robbie have gigabit switch, could it be the green drives
    (08:04:44 PM) GoodGuy: Robbie.. Is it wise to run a USB hard drive connected to a Pogoplug 24 x 7?
    (08:04:47 PM) robgor: thank guys
    (08:05:04 PM) gpop7 left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
    (08:05:17 PM) gsiegel: " I just can't do it captain ! I need more power !
    (08:05:35 PM) Guest_1772moment: Lots of fun .Have a good year all ;)
    (08:05:59 PM) _Jot_: I know with a good network you can even with a clickrace
    (08:06:06 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Thanks RobbieF
    (08:06:10 PM) brimurray: been great being here live! see you again next year!
    (08:06:23 PM) robgor: happy new year all
    (08:06:30 PM) Garbee has changed the topic to: www.Category5.TV | See you next year!
    (08:06:34 PM) calix: great show, thanks
    (08:06:40 PM) u-al left the room (quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 10.0/20111221135037]).
    (08:06:46 PM) _Jot_: Dennis_Kelley, don't forget to watch the show back in a few days to check what you have to send in
    (08:06:47 PM) raptor222: goodnight everyone, see you all in 2012!
    (08:06:56 PM) gsiegel left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
    (08:06:56 PM) raptor222 left the room (quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]).
    (08:06:57 PM) chrisreich: Happy New Year to all. Even GeorgeB
    (08:06:58 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Thanks _Jot_
    (08:07:08 PM) IdleChatter left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving).
    (08:07:09 PM) Scorpio55 left the room.
    (08:07:14 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: _Jot_ Dont you have the process memorized?
    (08:07:16 PM) Guest_6857 left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
    (08:07:25 PM) chrisreich left the room.
    (08:07:26 PM) Garbee: EricKidd, Thanks for joining us tonight.
    (08:07:40 PM) Trekkie00: see you next year
    (08:07:44 PM) _Jot_: Dennis_Kelley1, sure! THat is why I remind you now to watch, so you can memorize it too
    (08:07:47 PM) maxwell6307: happy new year all .....Later
    (08:08:01 PM) jimgreg left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
    (08:08:02 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: _Jot_ Tanks!
    (08:08:07 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Thanks
    (08:08:17 PM) maxwell6307 left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
    (08:08:31 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, did you make EricKidd and RacheLXu and the rest watch my video yet?
    (08:08:53 PM) _Jot_: that would be plenty of punishment I bet
    (08:09:02 PM) EricKidd left the room ("Thanks for having me. Peace, love, lotsa whisky, have a Happy New Year").
    (08:09:12 PM) Trekkie00 left the room ("WeeChat 0.3.6").
    (08:09:40 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: _Jot_ it was a great Video!
    (08:09:58 PM) _Jot_: thanks Dennis_Kelley1!
    (08:10:26 PM) GoodGuy left the room ("Leaving").
    (08:10:39 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Anyone know where I can get CD ISO of Ubuntu 10.04
    (08:11:07 PM) _Jot_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
    (08:11:29 PM) _Jot_: on that page you can select version 11 or 10, and 32 or 64 bit
    (08:12:01 PM) loadedfastman: or you could torrent it
    (08:12:01 PM) _Jot_: for torrents etc, see http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
    (08:12:13 PM) smittysmit left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).
    (08:12:39 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: ThankS _Jot)
    (08:13:05 PM) _Jot_: maybe I chould change my name to 'GoogleJot'
    (08:14:00 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: so 10.04 is supported for 3 years, 2013
    (08:14:04 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: LTS
    (08:14:08 PM) _Jot_: yep
    (08:14:13 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: sweet
    (08:14:22 PM) _Jot_: I think they were going to change it to 5 years, but I have no idea why I think that
    (08:14:36 PM) Garbee: Jot, They ARE changing to 5 years.
    (08:14:41 PM) Garbee: with 12.04.
    (08:14:47 PM) brimurray: 12.04 will be supported for 5 years
    (08:14:51 PM) Garbee: Also they are going to a DVD size release.
    (08:14:54 PM) _Jot_: 3 years desktop and 5 years server, right now
    (08:14:58 PM) _Jot_: with LTS
    (08:15:04 PM) Garbee: 7 or 850 MB is the ISO size.
    (08:15:14 PM) Garbee: Jot, Yes, but 12.04 will bring 5 years to each.
    (08:15:46 PM) _Jot_: I think I watch category5 too much, I actually remember things from when Robbie said them or they were in the newsroom
    (08:16:12 PM) Domenic left the room (quit: Quit: Verlassend).
    (08:16:20 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, how can you tell the difference between the top and bottom of RachelXu? They are both striped
    (08:16:25 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: RobbieF - Thanks!
    (08:18:39 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: RobbieF - I need to email you my address right
    (08:18:49 PM) _Jot_: yep, pretty much
    (08:19:47 PM) _Jot_: I think he didn't say that with me the last time, but I did it anyway :)
    (08:20:56 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Well he had you address already on file, since you won before!!
    (08:21:28 PM) _Jot_: yeah, but you saw in the video, I found his old power-tester, and some cables he was missing, so he's very good in misplacing things
    (08:21:42 PM) _Jot_: just leaves everything all over the place
    (08:22:23 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: messy messy!
    (08:22:53 PM) _Jot_: you can see it on the BSP too, there's people and stuff everywhere
    (08:23:14 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: like beer cans!
    (08:23:54 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: Ok I got to go! My Sump Pump stopped working just before the show!
    (08:24:07 PM) _Jot_: good luck Dennis_Kelley1
    (08:26:24 PM) Dennis_Kelley1: EricKidd has a pogoplug shirt
    (08:26:43 PM) davetech left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).



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