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  (03:33:08 PM) The topic for #category5 is: www.Category5.TV
  (06:40:13 PM) RobbieF has changed the topic to: www.Category5.TV - VirtualBox 4.0 and tracking your time on Gnome. Don't miss tonight's special broadcast with guest, Christy [Burton] Van Noort!
  (06:59:25 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I should watch video more often
  (06:59:30 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: there's Robbie sipping something
  (06:59:52 PM) labfan: showtime!!
  (07:00:05 PM) raptor222: t-rex888 LOL! ROFL! and running for my life
  (07:00:19 PM) pyrosrock: and were off
  (07:00:21 PM) T-Rex888 is now known as Lock-Ness_Monsto
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  (07:01:19 PM) Lock-Ness_Monsto: RobbieF, Get Eric logged into chatroom!
  (07:01:28 PM) raptor222: no green screen
  (07:01:42 PM) ardian [~ardian@fedora/ardian] entered the room.
  (07:01:49 PM) Ledzep: Greetings all.
  (07:02:01 PM) G_Dog1985_: lol
  (07:02:02 PM) agamotto [~ This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it ] entered the room.
  (07:02:02 PM) ardian: Hi alket
  (07:02:18 PM) alket: hi ardian , im having low internet connection
  (07:02:43 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: EricKidd just came dangerously close to singing some Pookie Hudson
  (07:02:49 PM) Lock-Ness_Monsto: I hope Robbie got the subject of that sentence, I didn't..
  (07:02:52 PM) Lock-Ness_Monsto is now known as Gadwil
  (07:02:59 PM) ardian: what's up
  (07:03:13 PM) SammySez: is Christy in chat?
  (07:03:13 PM) alket: wheres the green screen
  (07:03:39 PM) Gadwil: alket, behind the brown one.
  (07:03:52 PM) Gadwil: I think Eric is scarred of the chatroom.
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  (07:04:04 PM) raptor222: erickidd going grunge
  (07:04:07 PM) Gadwil: RobbieF, Nvidia GTS 450.
  (07:04:14 PM) Knysliux001 [4e38bf3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.56.191.58] entered the room.
  (07:04:18 PM) Gadwil: That was my geek gift.
  (07:04:21 PM) pyrosrock: RobbieF Minecraft Magnets
  (07:04:38 PM) SammySez: I was up until 3:15am installing RockBox on my Sansa Fuze. RockBox fookin' rocks!
  (07:05:09 PM) Gadwil: SammySez, I am not sure what to say to that. Super close though.
  (07:05:09 PM) Ledzep: Robbie does it play x.264
  (07:05:20 PM) Knysliux001 is now known as Knysliux
  (07:05:21 PM) ***agamotto bows
  (07:05:24 PM) agamotto: Hallo, all
  (07:05:26 PM) Gadwil: Hello Agamotto!
  (07:05:42 PM) _Jot_: Thanks Robbie :)
  (07:05:51 PM) _Jot_: hey Christy
  (07:05:53 PM) _Jot_: hi Johannes
  (07:05:55 PM) _Jot_: hi Eric
  (07:05:59 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Hi agamotto
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  (07:06:39 PM) agamotto: Did everyone enjoy their solstice?
  (07:06:39 PM) big_balls [4580e1cd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.225.205] entered the room.
  (07:07:08 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: agamotto: I didn't notice. I haven't left the house since Saturday night.
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  (07:07:15 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Unless you count the driveway
  (07:07:22 PM) ***agamotto chuckles
  (07:07:37 PM) pyrosrock: u can get dvi ones just reli expensive!!!!!
  (07:07:44 PM) agamotto: In our neighborhood, we dug out paths to each other's house
  (07:07:45 PM) SammySez: borrowed the GF's US Cellular cell card from her Windows laptop, plugged into my Ubuntu netbook, fired right up - no software - no drivers - no hassles
  (07:07:47 PM) pyrosrock: coz iv been looking
  (07:08:00 PM) labfan: anyone else get a Roku box for christmas?
  (07:08:05 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: agamotto: The city didn't plow my street till this evening. The snow ended early monday morning
  (07:08:11 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: labfan: No, but I own one
  (07:08:18 PM) agamotto: SammySez- really? wow....
  (07:08:40 PM) labfan: i got the xds model,very nice
  (07:08:43 PM) ardian [~ardian@fedora/ardian] entered the room.
  (07:09:10 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: labfan: I have the original HD model, but I'm switching to the XD and giving my HD to my parents as a gift. They need the older connectors.
  (07:09:19 PM) agamotto: Moline plowed.. right onto and over some, cars.
  (07:09:21 PM) calhydro: Robbie: I got a Bamboo Tablet, now I'm editing photos like a pro does GIMP support tablets yet!
  (07:09:35 PM) SammySez: when you plug the card in, Ubuntu pops up a window, asking what cell provider you use with a drop down list of about 20 providers if I recall. Pick one and viola! you're on the web
  (07:09:39 PM) labfan: they seem to work like a charm Gadget
  (07:09:41 PM) Knysliux is now known as Knysliux001
  (07:09:45 PM) Gadwil: calhydro, What OS is on the tablet?
  (07:09:49 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: agamotto: My parents generously loaned me their car. Mine can't handle this weather.
  (07:10:04 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: labfan: It's a great piece of hardware, especially for the price.
  (07:10:11 PM) agamotto: SammySez- Wow, another neat thing most people don't know about
  (07:10:12 PM) labfan: agreed
  (07:10:45 PM) calhydro: You and can get a gender changers to allow use of KVM
  (07:10:59 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I always found the name Gender changer to be odd.
  (07:11:20 PM) agamotto: GadgetWisdomGuru- mine does well, save for the need to warm up the tranny if I want to go faster than 45 at first
  (07:11:21 PM) SammySez: with my Verizon smart-phone running Windoze 6.5 Mobile no less, even that requires special software installed on XP in order to tether. I plug the same phone into any ubuntu machine, and I don't touch a thing - bam! on the web
  (07:11:36 PM) agamotto: I prefer gender-bender
  (07:11:37 PM) calhydro: I use Belkin Soho Swithces
  (07:11:37 PM) pyrosrock: RobbieF EricKidd is there a way to run 2 hd's in RAID 0 and have them accesable in win 7 and ubuntu?
  (07:11:38 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: agamotto: My heat is busted.
  (07:11:58 PM) Gadwil: Pyrosrock, Why would you want RAID 0?
  (07:12:10 PM) pyrosrock: coz i want speed
  (07:12:11 PM) Gadwil: calhydro, GIMP on Tablet, what Tablet are you referring too?
  (07:12:20 PM) pyrosrock: dont care about my data
  (07:12:29 PM) agamotto: My tranny just doesn't like to go anywhere fast when it has to start up around 0 or colder
  (07:12:32 PM) Gadwil: pyrosrock, exactly, data is the important part.
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  (07:12:55 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: "Funny, Eric never takes a second cup of coffee at home..."
  (07:12:58 PM) pyrosrock: Gadwill no i have no inportant data
  (07:13:01 PM) Gadwil: So long as you are using a hardware RAID option, I don't see why it would work out-of-the-box.
  (07:13:02 PM) GoodGuy: I have an Iogear KVM switch from a garage sale.. works great
  (07:13:06 PM) Pingutech [52a6ec12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.166.236.18] entered the room.
  (07:13:08 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Sorry, bad old reference.
  (07:13:18 PM) GoodGuy: Mine is VGA-PS2
  (07:13:22 PM) Pingutech: hello from Israel!
  (07:13:30 PM) Gadwil: hello Pingutech.
  (07:13:34 PM) agamotto: Shalom
  (07:13:36 PM) GoodGuy: Shalom Pingutech
  (07:13:39 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Pingutech: I've been meaning to stop by.
  (07:13:45 PM) pyrosrock: Gadwill i have a raid controller in my motherboard but not linux compatible
  (07:13:59 PM) Pingutech: thanks all
  (07:14:02 PM) Pingutech: Shalom!
  (07:14:12 PM) Gadwil: pyrosrock, if it doesn't support Linux, then it may not work at all since it would be raid.
  (07:14:16 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Pingutech: Where in israel, out of curiousity?
  (07:14:17 PM) Pingutech: I finally made it to the show - awake!
  (07:14:18 PM) calhydro: Not a Tablet Computer Input Tablet & Pen for Editing and Drawing i.e. http://www.wacom.com/bamboo/bamboo_fun.php?gclid=CPeA2pCXkKYCFUlN4Aod53pfow
  (07:14:22 PM) Gadwil: I would buy ad addon card for RAID.
  (07:14:30 PM) Pingutech: it's 2.15 am
  (07:14:41 PM) Pingutech: Haifa
  (07:14:47 PM) raptor222: pingutech, sating up until 2 am isnt that hard!!!
  (07:14:48 PM) Gadwil: calhydro, that depends on your OS then, since that tablet is just input.
  (07:14:48 PM) pyrosrock: no coz when the drives are not in raid they all work
  (07:14:49 PM) Pingutech: Are you here too?
  (07:15:05 PM) Gadwil: GIMP will take all input, that makes it so the pen is like the mouse.
  (07:15:21 PM) raptor222: yep
  (07:15:22 PM) agamotto: Pingutech- just coming in from the disco?
  (07:15:29 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Pingutech: No. But I have relatives there. Well, not in Haifa.
  (07:15:34 PM) calhydro: I use GIMP on both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10
  (07:15:42 PM) Gadwil: Pyrosrock, Yea, when NOT in RAID, but if you then put them into RAID, and it isn't Linux compatable, then Linux won't see it as RAID.
  (07:15:44 PM) Pingutech: raptor222: It is if you have to 4 year old kids that wake you up by 5.30 am
  (07:16:01 PM) raptor222: tu che pingutech
  (07:16:11 PM) pyrosrock: Gadwill no linux just dosent see the drives at all
  (07:16:26 PM) pyrosrock: but win7 thinks it is one drive
  (07:16:46 PM) SammySez: DDWRT rulz
  (07:16:59 PM) Knysliux001: pyrosrock: you can try software raid
  (07:17:05 PM) Gadwil: pyrosrock, exactly, due to RAID, the card is saying " These drives are RAID " not EIDE or AHCI which is what Linux would look for then.
  (07:17:18 PM) pyrosrock: SammySez both of my routers are DDWRT incompatible
  (07:17:19 PM) Pingutech: can anyone help me with configuring a UPS connected via USB to my Ubuntu Lucid
  (07:17:19 PM) Dosbomber: Voluntarily stopping the bit flow from the Internet? You may as well stop the flow of blood in your veins... :P
  (07:17:28 PM) Gadwil: I would search your RAID card and then look for a linux driver/work-around from there.
  (07:17:46 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Pingutech: What brand?
  (07:17:58 PM) pyrosrock: Knysliux001 but are there any that work in win7 and ubuntu?
  (07:18:00 PM) SammySez: try tomato?
  (07:18:06 PM) SammySez: err... he just mentioned it
  (07:18:12 PM) Gadwil: Windows can see RAID cards like that since most built-in RAID's are built just for windows, whereas actual addon cards are built for both.
  (07:18:20 PM) agamotto: Dosbomber- i use QoS to set my parent's boxen to 1.5Mbps, so I can have the other 1.5 free for my use
  (07:18:22 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Pingutech: Either way, look into nut
  (07:18:25 PM) raptor222: pingutech if its the usual stuff sold in israel probably no one knows how (try asking the manufacturer)
  (07:18:29 PM) Pingutech: The box says Laserline Hornet 1000VA
  (07:18:35 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Never heard of it
  (07:18:38 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Laserline?
  (07:18:41 PM) Pingutech: lsusb says Agilar Inc
  (07:18:47 PM) SammySez: personally love IPcop myself
  (07:19:12 PM) raptor222: hey everybody the UPS that are sold in israel are locally manufactured
  (07:19:13 PM) Gadwil: RobbieF, Can you please ask EricKidd if he knows what the " /usr " folder is for?
  (07:19:33 PM) Gadwil: I prefer a smoothwall biuld... Currently saving roughly $200 to purchase parts for a DIY router.
  (07:19:38 PM) pyrosrock: Gadwill i will have to look but most iv seen in oz are reli expensive like all tec stuf in oz
  (07:19:53 PM) Gadwil: pyrosrock, exactly, but they will work in each OS.
  (07:20:02 PM) Pingutech: could't make it work wit nut...
  (07:20:05 PM) Gadwil: or French.
  (07:20:10 PM) pyrosrock: yeah have to look in to it Gadwill
  (07:20:13 PM) Pingutech: any specific guide I can follow?
  (07:20:35 PM) Pingutech: I cannot find out which driver to use
  (07:20:37 PM) agamotto: Lewees
  (07:20:45 PM) Gadwil: See episode 158 before you say " no data "
  (07:21:07 PM) agamotto: One is my name, the other is not.
  (07:21:24 PM) calhydro: ISP caps are like going to a All You Can Eat Buffet, but the plates are the size of a teacup saucer
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  (07:21:48 PM) Pingutech: Happy holiday for you guys!
  (07:21:52 PM) Pingutech: BTW
  (07:21:52 PM) Gadwil: calhydro, I have no cap... so far used about 160GB just this month.
  (07:22:00 PM) agamotto: calhydro- It is usually the case of 3% ruining it for everyone else
  (07:22:11 PM) codeblue [626d7be9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.109.123.233] entered the room.
  (07:22:13 PM) pyrosrock: Gadwill the other thing is i dont know if there are any raid cards that run SATA3 like my drives
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  (07:22:27 PM) codeblue: ROBBIE - where is the green screen tonight?
  (07:22:31 PM) Gadwil: pyrosrock, Are these HDD or SSDs?
  (07:22:39 PM) GoodGuy: It's more likely Netflix agamotto,... ISP's have On-Demand and Netflix competes
  (07:22:57 PM) agamotto: Our house chews through an average of 72Gb per month, now that both parents are fetching shows/vodcasts
  (07:22:58 PM) pyrosrock: they are caviar black hdd
  (07:23:05 PM) GoodGuy: They want to limit usage to cut them out
  (07:23:17 PM) calhydro: Hey do caps count your upload as well as download data?
  (07:23:29 PM) Gadwil: pyrosrock, then don't worry about SATA3, as you wont' even begin to reach SATA2 speeds.
  (07:23:44 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- Ah, I thought you were speaking of caps for other reasons
  (07:23:47 PM) calhydro: Robbie: After sucessfully running Ubunto 10.10 RC I did a clean install of 10.10 final release and now I can't get Network Manager to auto load the ethernet connection. Had to manually add the connection. I have seen threads saying this a problem when upgrading from 10.4, but I did a clean install, any ideas.
  (07:24:00 PM) agamotto: calhydro- usually not
  (07:24:01 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Pingutech: What holiday?
  (07:24:07 PM) pyrosrock: Gadwill i dont know about that iv found sata 3 faster even with those drives
  (07:24:19 PM) Valpenone [59a01f5e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.160.31.94] entered the room.
  (07:24:33 PM) pyrosrock: Gadwill Espescialy with small files
  (07:24:34 PM) GoodGuy: I think others were, but I believe the ISP's like Comcast dont want to supply Netflix bandwidth to take their sales
  (07:24:59 PM) raptor222: pingutech, just did a google search for laserline hornet and agikar inc and didnt found anything, it's completley possible that it's impossible to make this UPS to work in ubuntu
  (07:25:04 PM) Gadwil: HDD's are limited by their ability to retrieve data. Since they have an upgraded board for transfer, that may help a bit, but nothing super fast like an SSD from SATA2 to 3.
  (07:25:17 PM) agamotto: They want to supply it, they just want Netfilx to pay extra for it, hence the fun with net neutrality
  (07:25:26 PM) GoodGuy: Yes
  (07:25:38 PM) calhydro: Comcast give you a 250gb cap, but the streaming of video can reach that pretty fast.
  (07:25:42 PM) Pingutech: here is my lsusb
  (07:25:46 PM) Pingutech: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 05b8:0000 Agiler, Inc.
  (07:25:53 PM) Gadwil: calhydro, Perhaps a re-install. I have this issue and that always fixes it for me.
  (07:25:54 PM) SammySez: Net Neutrality is the warm and fuzzy wrapping to government regulation of free speech. wait and see.
  (07:25:57 PM) Valpenone: my comp died :(
  (07:26:22 PM) ***Dosbomber nods at SammySez
  (07:26:25 PM) pyrosrock: Gadwill i know but with files under the 64m chache it is reli quick because all coppied to chache
  (07:26:29 PM) GoodGuy: So far I havent gotten a letter from Comcast and I d/l a fair amt of shows on Miro plus several Linux distros
  (07:26:37 PM) pyrosrock: then writen
  (07:27:03 PM) Pingutech: I just want is to have the battery tab in the Power Manager on my desktop, like I have on my Netbook
  (07:27:07 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- yah, but that is downloading, which perversely, uses LESS data that streaming does
  (07:27:17 PM) pyrosrock: Gadwill have u been to the Beta forum recently?
  (07:27:30 PM) Gadwil: pyroscrock, Just before the show yea.
  (07:27:33 PM) Ledzep: Any body know what kind of a dock Robbie is using
  (07:27:40 PM) GoodGuy: Running Lucid Puppy under VirtualBox is annoying... It messes up the screen sizes for mouse usage etc
  (07:27:41 PM) agamotto: AWN
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  (07:28:05 PM) calhydro: During the installation process check list the internet connection category is x out so codecs a, updates and third party apps can't be downloaded
  (07:28:11 PM) GoodGuy: I was going to guess AWN also since its in Perfectbuntu
  (07:28:33 PM) raptor222: pingutech here is the manufacturers site http://agiler.us/productos.php#cat49
  (07:28:42 PM) Gadwil: ledzep, I believe it is Avant-Window-Navigator or AWN for Robbie's dock.
  (07:28:55 PM) Ledzep: ty very much
  (07:29:07 PM) ***agamotto chuckles VLC's taskbar icon has a Santa hat
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  (07:30:03 PM) Gadwil: calhydro, Did you check the MD5 has of your ISO vs the Sum provided to make sure your disk is good? and what type of connection is it?
  (07:31:02 PM) dman810 [62d19c3e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.209.156.62] entered the room.
  (07:31:38 PM) calhydro: Burned and Verified two ISO(s) its a wired connection that worked prefect with the 10.10 rc
  (07:32:00 PM) agamotto: Weird
  (07:32:10 PM) Gadwil: Calhydro, Are you behind a router or directly to your modem?
  (07:33:20 PM) calhydro: I'm behind a router, DHCP is on and worked fine with the 10.10 rc
  (07:33:37 PM) pyrosrock: where is the news?
  (07:33:44 PM) Gadwil: Ok, so that should be all fine... I would have no idea why it won't auto connect then.
  (07:33:50 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: New York City has been hit with the 6th worst blizzard in its history.
  (07:33:56 PM) Gadwil: Every time I have that issue with any OS i just re-install.
  (07:33:59 PM) Pingutech: raptor222: it doesn't show on the list
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  (07:34:03 PM) agamotto: yay!!!! Christy!
  (07:34:03 PM) Yazid: Hi Christie
  (07:34:13 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Stargate Universe has been canceled.
  (07:34:32 PM) agamotto: GadgetWisdomGuru- yes, apparently no one cares if they make it back
  (07:34:33 PM) Gadwil: GWG, And you are in the midldle of it somewhere.
  (07:34:34 PM) labfan: bye Kidder
  (07:34:39 PM) dman810: Hello GoodGuy
  (07:34:46 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: Yes. Been stuck at home for days
  (07:34:48 PM) SammySez: sacked
  (07:34:51 PM) raptor222: pingutech can you tell under what brand it was sold
  (07:34:51 PM) GoodGuy: Hi dmn
  (07:34:54 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Going to try to get off the block tomorrow
  (07:34:55 PM) GoodGuy: dman810
  (07:35:01 PM) Yazid: Welcome Back
  (07:35:05 PM) agamotto: Which, I assume means at least two more wrestling shows
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  (07:35:38 PM) _Jot_: hey Christy, it's so cold here, that's news, we had a white christmas
  (07:35:48 PM) calhydro: Hey we have a Stargate in Detroit: See it here http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=42.328108,-83.044883&spn=0,359.999013&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=42.328267,-83.045118&panoid=Hjtz4teF55kAJ5eNOHOjRQ&cbp=12,153.91,,0,-6.82
  (07:35:48 PM) Gadwil: ROBBIEF STOP HER!
  (07:35:54 PM) pyrosrock: no snow here :(
  (07:36:06 PM) agamotto: Yes, we wouldn't want CBC stalking her, waiting to see her cuss or something!
  (07:36:11 PM) Gadwil: I want to move now.
  (07:36:15 PM) codeblue: Yes - NJ has enjoyed 30+ inches in some places
  (07:36:17 PM) GoodGuy: First White Christmas in Atlanta GA in 100 yrs.. said on MNF
  (07:36:20 PM) Ledzep: We hardly have any snow in my area of Quebec. East of Mtl.
  (07:36:27 PM) Gatorman: It was even snowing here in Florida
  (07:36:28 PM) SammySez: and global warmists STILL claim it is due to global warming. heh - go figure.
  (07:36:29 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Note to self...don't move to Vancouver
  (07:36:33 PM) Pingutech: I have 66 F in Haifa, israel
  (07:36:33 PM) Gadwil: calhydro, for links that long, please use a shortener.
  (07:36:34 PM) labfan: Victoria BC?
  (07:36:40 PM) agamotto: 18F and clear here in Moline!
  (07:36:44 PM) ***agamotto chuckles
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  (07:36:59 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I'm thinking of moving to Florida
  (07:37:03 PM) Gadwil: This isn't news... these kinds of holes are all over MS products.
  (07:37:06 PM) SammySez: Vancouver is a beautiful city. Lived there a few years ago.
  (07:37:27 PM) GoodGuy: It was 28 this morning according to a friend in FL
  (07:37:27 PM) labfan: 27 F Niagara Falls USA
  (07:37:31 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: SammySez: I want to live somewhere where it is 50-60 all year round.
  (07:37:32 PM) G_Dog1985_: lol
  (07:37:36 PM) GoodGuy: 58 later in the afternoon
  (07:37:38 PM) G_Dog1985_: i have none
  (07:37:38 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: That's Fahrenheit
  (07:37:42 PM) calhydro: Shorten Link: http://tinyurl.com/DetroitStarGate
  (07:37:56 PM) raptor222: around 20C here in sderot
  (07:37:57 PM) Gadwil: Thank you calhydro.
  (07:37:57 PM) Yazid: 30 in Clifton NJ
  (07:38:02 PM) G_Dog1985_: oh that snow EricKidd
  (07:38:32 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Bey-zos
  (07:38:32 PM) agamotto: neat
  (07:38:46 PM) SammySez: GWG: vancouver is relatively mild year around in comparison to more inland areas though
  (07:38:47 PM) codeblue: NJ in the house !
  (07:38:48 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: And the history is the 3 years since the Kindle was released.
  (07:38:55 PM) Gadwil: VK7HSE, Do you happen to be around?
  (07:39:34 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Disclaimer: Author of this news story owns a Kindle
  (07:39:50 PM) agamotto: I think I will still wait for the color E-ink screens
  (07:39:52 PM) Gadwil: GWG, No one cares, we all know it is a good product.
  (07:39:53 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Fro-yo. Not Froy-yo
  (07:40:00 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: Thank you
  (07:40:07 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: But I don't want the FTC after me
  (07:40:35 PM) mandov [6359c15f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.89.193.95] entered the room.
  (07:41:07 PM) mandov: hi everyone
  (07:41:08 PM) Ledzep: Be interesting to see what the price on the Samsung will be.
  (07:41:09 PM) agamotto: So, in short, it will be a great Skype phone
  (07:41:25 PM) SammySez: I wonder what that will go for on eBay now. There are a lotta diehard KodaChrome fans out there
  (07:41:40 PM) Pingutech: raptor222: so you are in Sderot?
  (07:41:50 PM) Gadwil: GWG, All that I just messaged you is simply put a little spew from my rage of opposition to the Net Neutrality bill.
  (07:41:55 PM) raptor222: yes pingutech
  (07:42:00 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: That's the FCC, not the FTC
  (07:42:02 PM) Ledzep: Kodachrome 64 bit
  (07:42:18 PM) Gadwil: ROBBIEF, A screenshot is on the show of the beta site!
  (07:42:26 PM) Pingutech: weird finding another Israeli here...
  (07:42:27 PM) Gadwil: Kill the leaker!
  (07:42:30 PM) pyrosrock: yep its a good site :P
  (07:42:39 PM) calhydro: If Free Its Me
  (07:42:47 PM) agamotto: Pingutech- the internet is a very wide, but close, community
  (07:42:52 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: The Federal Trade Commission has nothing to do with net neutrality.
  (07:42:54 PM) _Jot_: so what's the address of that new site?
  (07:42:55 PM) Gadwil: Should jot be excluded from more free stuff?
  (07:43:05 PM) _Jot_: yay, Jot wins!
  (07:43:23 PM) Pingutech: Weather: 66 F in Haifa, israel
  (07:43:24 PM) Gadwil: GWG, I know it is the FCC, but I still think FTC had some hand in it somehow.
  (07:43:30 PM) SammySez: what did Jot win?
  (07:43:51 PM) _Jot_: not sure what I won, but I'm sure I won something since I win all the time
  (07:43:51 PM) raptor222: well pingutech its hard to find a streaming web show, so i am here (somtimes)
  (07:43:52 PM) Gadwil: I am still waiting to be able to download that bill so i can actually read the entire thing.
  (07:43:53 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I have to fly to Israel again. Haven't been since 99
  (07:43:59 PM) Pingutech: wasn't here a Category5 Desktop App?
  (07:44:01 PM) Ledzep: Thanks Christie for the news.
  (07:44:05 PM) agamotto: Christy: dpn'
  (07:44:25 PM) SammySez: poor snowman outside only has one left now
  (07:44:28 PM) Gadwil: Christy is the lady from alpha centarui.
  (07:44:33 PM) agamotto: don't feel so bad, I still occasionally answer my home phone as if i were still working at Home Depot
  (07:44:34 PM) Gadwil: centauri*
  (07:44:35 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, would you say the weather was interfering?
  (07:44:49 PM) G_Dog1985_: haha i have none of that snow :P
  (07:45:24 PM) Pingutech: GadgetWisdomGuru: Come over, it is nothing like it was back in 99
  (07:45:25 PM) raptor222: yes robbief what is your head's albedo?
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  (07:45:50 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Pingutech: I was barely awake for it in 99. So I'll agree. But I never got to Haifa.
  (07:45:59 PM) SammySez: growing up in WI, we are taught at a very early age to not eat the yellow snow.
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  (07:46:11 PM) agamotto: hahahaahahahah
  (07:46:22 PM) Pingutech: Come over, I'll give you a toor
  (07:46:27 PM) Pingutech: tour
  (07:46:38 PM) Gadwil: Hey, do people in WI not like yellow snow SammySez?
  (07:46:44 PM) ajamison5579: RobbieF point of order it was around before Sun it used to be its own beast
  (07:46:48 PM) Pingutech: I am getting tired.... :-)
  (07:47:06 PM) SammySez: we used to make snowmen then use window cleaner bottles filled with water with food colors added to make blue heads, red shoes etc. pretty cool.
  (07:47:09 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Pingutech: I'm trying. I just won a ticket on El Al, space available.
  (07:47:15 PM) agamotto: EricKidd- Next show, will you wear red plaid in honor of Al from Home Improvement?
  (07:47:20 PM) raptor222: pingutech drink קפה תורכי עלית
  (07:47:46 PM) SammySez: <-- was thinking the same thing as agamotto
  (07:47:50 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: agamotto: You need him to say..."I don't think so, Robbie."
  (07:47:57 PM) ajamison5579: lol
  (07:48:07 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Hi, ajamison5579
  (07:48:08 PM) agamotto: fizzy bubuleh?
  (07:48:11 PM) Gadwil: RobbieF, They are also working out the Virtual Media Manager! Yay.
  (07:48:13 PM) Pingutech: raptor222: bad kind of coffee...
  (07:48:15 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: agamotto: That movie stunk.
  (07:48:20 PM) Pingutech: I drink Landver
  (07:48:42 PM) GoodGuy: I didnt care how they made adding an iso harder to VMM
  (07:48:44 PM) agamotto: GadgetWisdomGuru- agreed, which is why I am happy that I caught it on telly
  (07:48:57 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I drink authentic Gadget Wisdom Diet Cola and Diet Ginger Ale. Made lovingly in the Gadget Wisdom laboratories.
  (07:49:04 PM) ajamison5579: Hi GWG
  (07:49:05 PM) raptor222: well pingutech it's an acquired taste
  (07:49:11 PM) GoodGuy: I had to attach it to a virtual machine to add the iso and them remove it
  (07:49:18 PM) Gadwil: Please show us how to throttle Robbie, I still havn't found that out yet.
  (07:49:28 PM) Pingutech: raptor222: LOL
  (07:49:33 PM) ajamison5579: RobbieF will it wash and fold my laundry as well?
  (07:49:48 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: you want someone to throttle Robbie? Why? I thought you liked him.
  (07:50:01 PM) agamotto: Only in Planet Calypso
  (07:50:03 PM) SammySez: VirtualBox blows on Windoze since Oracle took over - ugh! Can't keep it running.
  (07:50:17 PM) Gadwil: GWG, I meant how to throttle the VM, but yea, we can Throttle robbie's amount of brain space on earth too.
  (07:50:37 PM) SammySez: Don't click the UPDATES (at least in Windows)
  (07:51:10 PM) Gadwil: SammySez, Odd, Virtualbox always runs just fine in Windows for me.
  (07:51:39 PM) SammySez: totally hosed all my VMs a couple months ago after an upgrade.
  (07:51:43 PM) Pingutech: lbb_release
  (07:51:47 PM) pyrosrock: stumped
  (07:51:48 PM) Gadwil: RobbieF, Just got to " about Ubuntu " in the system menu.
  (07:51:49 PM) howefield: lsb_release
  (07:51:56 PM) ajamison5579: Too much Beta coding
  (07:52:03 PM) labfan: Eric seems quiet tonight
  (07:52:08 PM) SammySez: tried to rebuild from scratch and the same ISOs I used to create VMs the first time fail in the new VB release for me
  (07:52:25 PM) agamotto: He is drowning in the technobable
  (07:52:35 PM) Gadwil: SammySez, very odd.
  (07:52:46 PM) Gadwil: ajamison, Beta coding for what?
  (07:53:01 PM) ajamison5579: Robbief said he was not sure why he blanked
  (07:53:12 PM) Gadwil: Oh
  (07:53:13 PM) ajamison5579: I said because he had too much beta coding
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  (07:53:33 PM) GoodGuy: RobbieF-Hillary: I think I read it should be gksudo gedit .....
  (07:53:52 PM) Gadwil: GoodGuy, Doesn't matter in this enviornment.
  (07:54:14 PM) ajamison5579: goodguy sudo prompts for the password on the command line gksudo prompts via a gui field
  (07:54:16 PM) GoodGuy: I thought the article said it can cause issues in rare cases
  (07:54:19 PM) Gadwil: If you were running it across a network via SSH with X11, then you would want gksu over sudo.
  (07:54:27 PM) agamotto: if memory serves, gksudo would just release the terminal window in this case
  (07:54:55 PM) SammySez: hah!
  (07:55:02 PM) ajamison5579: RobbieF point of order Sun did not create virtualbox
  (07:55:22 PM) ajamison5579: it was an independant project first
  (07:55:49 PM) SammySez: <-- recently discovered the "-X" option in his ssh client and is a big fan of X11 forwarding as a result ;)
  (07:56:11 PM) agamotto: Not all Canadians are puck-chasers!
  (07:56:35 PM) Pingutech: RobbieF: can you help me with my USB UPS?
  (07:56:47 PM) Gadwil: EricKidd, Do you know what the " /usr " folder is for in Linux?
  (07:57:02 PM) agamotto: Just as most Americans aren't into footie.
  (07:57:33 PM) Gadwil: Pingutech, Try emailing him, he may get to it next week.
  (07:58:13 PM) Pingutech: Gadwil: I did - to live@cat5
  (07:58:55 PM) GoodGuy: I had problems getting usb to work on my PC under VB... I unchecked the USB 2.0 controller box and it started working
  (07:58:57 PM) Gadwil: pingutech, This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it I hope was the full address you used, and he may have to get around to it next week due to time.
  (07:59:05 PM) EricKidd: Gadwil, i think /usr is typically for user apps and related files
  (07:59:09 PM) GoodGuy: Odd since I have USB 2.0 in this pc
  (07:59:09 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy- interesting
  (07:59:12 PM) SammySez: RockBox on the Sansa Fuze is incredible. Love my Fuze again.
  (07:59:19 PM) ajamison5579: just double click the extention file
  (07:59:23 PM) ajamison5579: at least in windows
  (07:59:47 PM) labfan: Happy New Year everyone!!
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  (07:59:58 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: BRB. Have to reboot my system. Something is acting odd.
  (07:59:59 PM) Pingutech: Gadwil: I did
  (08:00:02 PM) agamotto: EricKidd- Good guess, but too logical. Universal System Resources for some reason
  (08:00:02 PM) calhydro: Cool See Yea Week
  (08:00:06 PM) Valpenone: labfan: you too
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  (08:00:08 PM) pyrosrock: so jan 2nd 4 me
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  (08:00:22 PM) GoodGuy: Happy New Year everyone
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  (08:00:30 PM) Yazid: Happy New Year! Good Night All
  (08:00:37 PM) SammySez: laterz
  (08:00:40 PM) agamotto: Fleece nachos todd!
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  (08:00:42 PM) Gadwil: RobbieF, Loved the video during credits.
  (08:00:54 PM) labfan: nite all
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