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  (04:14:27 PM) The topic for #category5 is: www.Category5.TV
  (04:14:27 PM) mode (+o RobbieF) by ChanServ
  (06:59:07 PM) Wreken: Hi Robbie and All........,, good luck today- break a leg
  (06:59:10 PM) _Jot_: Eric, afraid that people will think you are visiting Robbie? :)
  (06:59:17 PM) RobbieF: thanks
  (06:59:19 PM) RobbieF: have fun all!
  (06:59:20 PM) ajamison5579: mmm chedar burgers and french fries
  (06:59:24 PM) EricKidd: me no got dots!
  (06:59:31 PM) jamalexa [4717f987@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.23.249.135] entered the room.
  (06:59:44 PM) pyrosrock: ah dam its starting to rain i may have to go
  (07:00:02 PM) _Jot_: check failed... you forgot the discover card
  (07:00:23 PM) lanceman [4a43b6c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.67.182.199] entered the room.
  (07:00:24 PM) evermind: there we go, coming in perfectly
  (07:00:33 PM) jamalexa: Good Evening Cat5 Universe
  (07:00:37 PM) Gatorman: Looking good
  (07:00:50 PM) EricKidd: Here we gooooo!!!!
  (07:00:55 PM) pyrosrock: is it suposed to be HD?
  (07:01:22 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: It looks better
  (07:01:29 PM) GoodGuy [~ This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it ] entered the room.
  (07:01:40 PM) ajamison5579: good how is the new fam member robbief
  (07:01:43 PM) _Jot_: yeah, Robbie looks a bit pale, but that's about all that's weird
  (07:01:48 PM) evermind: good quality tonight, yah
  (07:02:03 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: _Jot_: RobbieF isn't pale, he's just Canadian
  (07:02:09 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: You can just finally see it
  (07:02:11 PM) evermind: yah, this is natural colors
  (07:02:17 PM) lanceman: Hello everyone.
  (07:02:18 PM) evermind: no glowing icon thingy tonight;)
  (07:02:25 PM) _Jot_: plus the horror creeps in of having another mouth to feed
  (07:02:53 PM) warcow105: hey everyone
  (07:02:59 PM) _Jot_: hi warcow
  (07:03:03 PM) evermind: hi warcow
  (07:03:09 PM) Gatorman: Coolbeans!
  (07:03:22 PM) evermind: so, anyone around with tech q
  (07:03:31 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: RobbieF, feel free to have Hillary plug Android Buffet
  (07:03:32 PM) _Jot_: Hillary, I hope you have enough food and stuff
  (07:03:49 PM) evermind: i had a lil tech fail, just closed myself out of one of my testing vps
  (07:04:05 PM) evermind: firewall mod load error, now im off till the hosting guy gets in
  (07:04:06 PM) _Jot_: Hillary, don't eat the yellow snow!
  (07:04:08 PM) GregInTexas: it's cold here too ... no snow though ... lol
  (07:04:17 PM) Gatorman: How cold is it where you are, Christy?
  (07:04:19 PM) Hillary: ewww yellow snowww!
  (07:04:37 PM) warcow105: blue snow means it was a smurf
  (07:04:39 PM) warcow105: lol
  (07:04:59 PM) _Jot_: hey!
  (07:05:03 PM) pyrosrock: RobbieF wheres the difrent feed quality options?
  (07:05:08 PM) Wreken: What? Chisty is here? Where's the weather report!
  (07:05:24 PM) Wreken: i dont believe
  (07:05:25 PM) _Jot_: there's lots of snow and cold here too, very unexpected
  (07:05:25 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I'm going to Florida on Thursday.
  (07:05:29 PM) GregInTexas: snow ... now they're braggin'
  (07:05:37 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Of course, it is 40 degrees F in Florida now. Curses
  (07:05:49 PM) ajamison5579: I hate snow
  (07:05:59 PM) ajamison5579: it white powedery evil
  (07:06:07 PM) Gatorman: Try 25 F, not 40F
  (07:06:07 PM) GregInTexas: I love snow ... probably won't have any in west texas this year
  (07:06:18 PM) evermind: noscript -> enable site, or disable tor
  (07:06:46 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gatorman: It feels like 27 in New York City.
  (07:06:53 PM) evermind: ahhh, this is a feature
  (07:06:54 PM) evermind: )
  (07:07:02 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gatorman: either way, why am I going to Florida if it is just as cold as here?
  (07:07:14 PM) Gatorman: Dress warm
  (07:07:21 PM) warcow105: GadgetWisdomGuru, what part of fl
  (07:07:24 PM) _Jot_: Robbie has to convert all the users by first guessing their password so he can enter it in the new site
  (07:07:35 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: warcow105: Heading to South Florida.
  (07:07:50 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: warcow105: Why? Know someone in South Florida who might want to say hi?
  (07:08:04 PM) pyrosrock: _Jot_ lol
  (07:08:05 PM) Wreken: Lock down? R we under arrest?
  (07:08:07 PM) warcow105: no just wondering lol
  (07:08:17 PM) GregInTexas: picture does look good ...
  (07:08:22 PM) classacted [43f12248@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.241.34.72] entered the room.
  (07:08:32 PM) Cory`: With HD EricKidd's tiredness comes throw a lot clearer (j/k)
  (07:08:50 PM) Cory`: through**
  (07:08:54 PM) _Jot_: his beard is graying, he is turning into santa claus
  (07:08:55 PM) EricKidd: Hey, Cory, be nice!!!
  (07:09:00 PM) Gatorman: Ah, just imagine how ugly Eric will be in HD
  (07:09:02 PM) Cory`: EricKidd, :P
  (07:09:09 PM) Cory`: You need to tweet more
  (07:09:28 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I do love the quality.
  (07:09:31 PM) _Jot_: is the coffee with high caffeine now too?
  (07:09:40 PM) ajamison5579: it looks grey tinted the mug i mean
  (07:09:43 PM) Cory`: _Jot_, lol
  (07:09:45 PM) lanceman: Hey Robbie, it's 25 degrees in Rochester, N.Y. with a wind chill of 17 degrees.
  (07:09:46 PM) warcow105: RobbieF is just happy no one is picking on him tonight lol
  (07:09:47 PM) Gadwil: Why won't the 64 bit flash work in Fedora like it does in Ubuntu?
  (07:09:58 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: What's wrong with it? I'm using it now.
  (07:10:17 PM) Gatorman: How about betcha?
  (07:10:17 PM) Wreken: Eric is great------ He'll get in tune soon !
  (07:10:29 PM) pyrosrock: i say beata
  (07:11:00 PM) Gadwil: GWG, I am using the "Square" which is naitive 64 bit flash. I copied to ~/.mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and it still won't register.
  (07:11:01 PM) ajamison5579: I say Be-to-the-a
  (07:11:05 PM) GregInTexas: not me, by the way
  (07:11:06 PM) ajamison5579: lol
  (07:11:17 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: Copy it to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
  (07:11:22 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Not to /usr/lib
  (07:11:51 PM) Gadwil: GWG, I don't have lib64
  (07:11:57 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Od
  (07:12:04 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: And you said it's a 64-bit install?
  (07:12:06 PM) Gadwil: yet I used the i686 live CD to install.
  (07:12:17 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: then you can't use the 64-bit plugin
  (07:12:23 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: You installed the 32-bit Fedora
  (07:12:32 PM) Hillary: oops
  (07:12:34 PM) Hillary: hahaha
  (07:12:36 PM) Gadwil: ARGH!
  (07:12:38 PM) GregInTexas: lol
  (07:12:53 PM) Guest_9034: make a recovery cd
  (07:12:55 PM) Gadwil: I need to completely re-install this system then! So apparently there is no 64bit live cd!
  (07:13:02 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: Yes, there is
  (07:13:08 PM) Gadwil: Then I can't find it.
  (07:13:14 PM) pyrosrock: lol
  (07:13:23 PM) GregInTexas: I dual booted vista and ubuntu 10.04 ... was a waste of time as I've never booted into windows again ...
  (07:13:37 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: http://linux.mirrors.es.net/fedora//releases/14/Live/x86_64/
  (07:13:43 PM) ajamison5579: windows 7 most versions have built in backup
  (07:13:45 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Both the Gnome and the KDE version
  (07:13:59 PM) Gadwil: GWG, I want a torrent, not FTP download.
  (07:14:01 PM) ajamison5579: that works well but not duper high wuality
  (07:14:02 PM) _Jot_: Gadwil, http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options
  (07:14:05 PM) ajamison5579: quality
  (07:14:08 PM) calhydro [45f63a7d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.246.58.125] entered the room.
  (07:14:29 PM) Gadwil: I knew there IS a 64bit, just not available from the torrent page where I looked. There is only a 64 bit DVD install.
  (07:14:34 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-14-x86_64-CDs.torrent
  (07:14:38 PM) Yazid [47fa2303@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.250.35.3] entered the room.
  (07:14:45 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: That's the Install CD
  (07:15:00 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Here is the 64-bit Live CD
  (07:15:01 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-14-x86_64-Live.torrent
  (07:15:04 PM) calhydro: sound tonite is a little nasal sounding
  (07:15:06 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: It is right on the Torrent page, Gadwil
  (07:15:12 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Not sure why you don't see it
  (07:15:14 PM) pyrosrock: yeah i do mine manualy but i have rooted the system a copple times lol
  (07:15:22 PM) Gadwil: Thanks GWG, I will download later when I am on my office PC again.
  (07:15:37 PM) Gadwil: I went to the torrent link from the site, it showed a ton of downloads, just none 64bit live.
  (07:16:00 PM) Gadwil: I see it now.
  (07:16:01 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Dear RobbieF, can you tell us more about how and why you were able to get to the new HD feed?
  (07:16:33 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, you touched it, you eat it
  (07:16:48 PM) calhydro: halloween candy?
  (07:17:23 PM) _Jot_: RobbieF, you can promise him a 100% raise, after all, 100% of 0, is still 0
  (07:17:42 PM) calhydro: the show where nothing happens
  (07:18:07 PM) pyrosrock: danm guna miss some gota go :(
  (07:18:26 PM) Gadwil: yay, I am finally watching the show!
  (07:18:28 PM) evermind: bah humbug
  (07:18:38 PM) EricKidd: The candy was wrapped in plastic
  (07:18:56 PM) evermind: im usually getting the mp4
  (07:19:19 PM) evermind: lower qual, but can keep a gazillion of your eps on my profile
  (07:19:21 PM) Gadwil: RobbieF, Yes, I prefer Divx.
  (07:19:27 PM) Gatorman: Any experience with Natty Narwhal yet?
  (07:19:28 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, not that bend stick thingy, that wasn't in plastic
  (07:19:30 PM) Wreken: *** I think something MUST Change! Either wear brighter shirts; Or, change the Backdrop! Just a suggestion***
  (07:19:33 PM) evermind: yea, partly
  (07:19:36 PM) evermind: lazyness;)
  (07:19:41 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I'm using the beta feed RobbieF supplied.
  (07:19:46 PM) _Jot_: EricKidd, lol :)
  (07:19:47 PM) EricKidd: Last week's show, "a show about nothing" :) However, chock full of geeky goodness!
  (07:19:48 PM) Gadwil: I have played with Narwhal... Nothing really changing yet.
  (07:19:52 PM) Gadwil: Just updates mainly.
  (07:20:09 PM) Gatorman: Gadwil, I couldn;t find any new stuff either
  (07:20:17 PM) evermind: ill give the h264 one a try, if it works on my mediacenter...
  (07:20:18 PM) evermind: thx for the heads up
  (07:20:30 PM) Gadwil: Gatorman, There is one or two new things, but they aren't that important.
  (07:20:39 PM) Gatorman: OK
  (07:20:57 PM) Gadwil: On the plus side, this is my first time watching live from a Fedora system!
  (07:21:01 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: RobbieF, next week, get EricKidd a set of Chinese handcuffs.
  (07:21:10 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: Once you put on the hat, you never go back
  (07:21:30 PM) calhydro: Robbie: I have been using VLC to grab frames from videos its really easy, but is there another app where you can control the resolution of frame/snapshot?
  (07:21:35 PM) Yazid: WOW! lol
  (07:21:38 PM) Gadwil: GWG, So far this 32 and 64 bit mixup issue has made me mad. But Arch will still remain my main system.
  (07:21:47 PM) Gadwil: I just decided to give Fedora a true use shot.
  (07:21:54 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: That isn't Fedora's fault.
  (07:22:02 PM) Wreken: Thats it, brake out the Jameson's
  (07:22:17 PM) warcow105: mmmm jameson
  (07:22:21 PM) Gadwil: yes GWG, It is me having reading issues with a mix of perhaps some missing bits to a web page.
  (07:22:40 PM) Gadwil: Or a mis-representation of the page on my Windows 7 box downstairs in 64-bit IE9.
  (07:22:40 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil, happy to help if you need more. Ajamison is also a fedora user
  (07:22:49 PM) ajamison5579: aye
  (07:23:00 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: It must be a Microsoft conspiracy
  (07:23:00 PM) Cory`: If you don't have anything tech to say, don't say anything at all
  (07:23:01 PM) Cory`: :P
  (07:23:04 PM) Gadwil: GWG, I think with the Yum-extender tip I am good to go.
  (07:23:13 PM) Wreken: I can look in the cubbord for the correct spelling if you need.
  (07:23:27 PM) Gadwil: No, IE9 64bit still has A LOT of layout issues. Things on constantly overlapping, I just forgot I was in 64 bit version.
  (07:23:55 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: I was kidding about the Microsoft conspiracy
  (07:23:59 PM) ajamison5579: i have windows 7 64bit and there are very few issues
  (07:24:07 PM) ajamison5579: with regards to using 32bit
  (07:24:10 PM) Gadwil: GWG, I think it is an honest theory though.
  (07:24:26 PM) Gadwil: ajamison, Windows is a bit of a different issue.
  (07:24:33 PM) Yazid: @RobbieF - can you put a script together and place on your site for the Pogoplug drive? Or add it to perfectbuntu?
  (07:24:39 PM) Gadwil: well, Drivers yea, but not software.
  (07:24:43 PM) ajamison5579: i was refering to what Robbief said
  (07:24:49 PM) evermind: yah, try to install cs3 on a win7 64bit
  (07:24:53 PM) evermind: tell me if it works
  (07:24:54 PM) evermind: ;)
  (07:25:03 PM) ajamison5579: evermind why i use CS5
  (07:25:14 PM) Gadwil: If I owned a copy of CS3, Yes I would try. But almost all my 32bit stuff works perfectly in Win 7 64.
  (07:25:19 PM) evermind: cs5 is fine with 64bit 7
  (07:25:21 PM) Gadwil: So long as it isn't a Debian or tar.xz package.
  (07:25:35 PM) Gadwil: CS5 yea, it was built very recently.
  (07:25:54 PM) evermind: i had the situation with my current company, ppls upgraded their systems, then had to upgrade their adobe cs licenses
  (07:26:00 PM) evermind: sometimes you only learn by paying
  (07:26:03 PM) ajamison5579: 64bit has no speed increase unless applications are coded to use 64bit threads and more memory
  (07:26:19 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: ajamison5579: On Linux, many things are compiled 64-bit though
  (07:26:30 PM) Gadwil: I learned yesterday, in order to bypass my schools firewall, all I need to do is type in the actual IP, therefore bypassing DNS.
  (07:26:46 PM) GoodGuy: RobbieF-EricKidd: There is also Ubuntu DVD's
  (07:26:48 PM) evermind: then its not really a fw
  (07:26:51 PM) ajamison5579: yeah but how many are compiled in true 64bit or are just compiled on a 64bit machine
  (07:26:54 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Gadwil: I could tell you stories about the ease of bypassing such things.
  (07:27:02 PM) evermind: sounds more like the normal proxy blocking thing
  (07:27:14 PM) evermind: there are nicer tricks to bypass your schools proxy though
  (07:27:17 PM) evermind: choose a public dns
  (07:27:27 PM) evermind: that way you wont use your schools resolver, works alot of the times
  (07:27:29 PM) Gadwil: GWG, I have tried many things. One thing I am testing now is running Adito on a home VM, and accessing that via DynDNS and port forwarding and getting websites that way.
  (07:27:30 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Evermind, I used to use SSH tunneling to my home system to bypass Websense.
  (07:27:44 PM) evermind: yah, ssh is the 100% working one
  (07:27:44 PM) Gadwil: evermind, they can tell when I change the DNS.
  (07:27:52 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: You can download putty without needing to install it direct from the web
  (07:27:55 PM) Guest_4877 [519b1378@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.155.19.120] entered the room.
  (07:27:56 PM) Gadwil: I can never get SSH working, they scramble the ports too.
  (07:28:05 PM) evermind: so you switch ports;)
  (07:28:17 PM) rd_blair left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 265 seconds).
  (07:28:17 PM) Scorpio55: flashvideoreplacer plugin
  (07:28:38 PM) Gadwil: evermind, They even move HTTP from port 80 to something else. I don't know what those ports are, nor do I have a way to tell. if you happen to know, please inform me.
  (07:28:45 PM) ajamison5579: Adobe is the worst thing to happen to flash
  (07:28:49 PM) Gadwil: There Proxy is through port 8080, if that can help at all
  (07:28:56 PM) ajamison5579: Macromedia did a better job with it
  (07:29:14 PM) evermind: have you tried to remove the proxy settings from your browser, if theyre not having em in global policy
  (07:29:20 PM) warcow105: http://wiki.kartbuilding.net/index.php/Corkscrew_-_ssh_over_https
  (07:29:24 PM) warcow105: try that
  (07:29:39 PM) evermind: yah, a tunnel, like with what gwg mentoined above
  (07:29:52 PM) Gadwil: evermind, If I remove the proxy, I get no internet access period, not even Intranet access.
  (07:30:20 PM) Hillary: whats the diff between internet and intranet?
  (07:30:27 PM) evermind: intranet would be lan
  (07:30:29 PM) evermind: like your home pcs
  (07:30:30 PM) warcow105: intranet is internal to a company
  (07:30:30 PM) King_Arthur [~ This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it ] entered the room.
  (07:30:33 PM) _Jot_: Hillary, intranet is a network, internet is a network of networks
  (07:30:36 PM) Gadwil: Triple-booting on a single HDD bad idea. I constantly have issues doing that. I say to triple boot with at least 2 drives.
  (07:30:37 PM) evermind: internet is everything that goes over your isp assigned ip
  (07:30:45 PM) Hillary: hmm interesting.
  (07:30:54 PM) GoodGuy: RobbieF-EricKidd: I run Terabyte's BootIt NG.... makes triple booting easy
  (07:31:18 PM) evermind: Gadwil, good q, id go and analyse how theyre routing
  (07:31:21 PM) evermind: route print
  (07:31:26 PM) evermind: should give you some routing info
  (07:31:39 PM) rd_blair [182c3b64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.44.59.100] entered the room.
  (07:31:39 PM) evermind: you could then try around with net route add
  (07:31:43 PM) Gadwil: I was getting in trouble for being in Webchat, in this room actually. try explaining to a dim-witted principal that you were doing nothing wrong and they are completely stupid and oblivious as to what is going on.... Not easy.
  (07:31:43 PM) _Jot_: Hillary, intranet itsself doesn't mean anything, it was 'invented' as a marketingterm to make a network sound interesting
  (07:31:47 PM) evermind: and see what you get into that list
  (07:31:54 PM) Hillary: gotchaaaa.\
  (07:32:10 PM) Gadwil: evermind, Route print? I do know any traceroutes are blocked.
  (07:32:17 PM) evermind: its not a traceroute
  (07:32:29 PM) GoodGuy: a new version is due out in a couple weeks
  (07:32:31 PM) Gadwil: So what is this Route print stuff? Never heard of it before.
  (07:32:32 PM) evermind: it just tells you where your computer is going through, local settings, no remote damage done
  (07:32:47 PM) evermind: its like ipconfig
  (07:32:53 PM) evermind: just gives different info;)
  (07:32:56 PM) GoodGuy: I have owned it for years and first time they are updating the major version
  (07:32:57 PM) Gadwil: so the exact command is " route print"?
  (07:33:04 PM) evermind: yep
  (07:33:13 PM) Gadwil: Windows or Linux?
  (07:33:19 PM) evermind: you could also check more commandline switches via route /?
  (07:33:21 PM) Gadwil: I have access to both in Cisco class.
  (07:33:23 PM) evermind: windows
  (07:33:28 PM) Gadwil: Great.
  (07:33:32 PM) Gadwil: Thanks for the tip.
  (07:33:34 PM) Gadwil: ;)
  (07:33:38 PM) evermind: linux would be just "route"
  (07:33:54 PM) GoodGuy: The world is ending 2012, so Windows 8 can go down with it lol
  (07:34:26 PM) Gadwil: Oh, does anyone know of issues using Zenworks to image an Ext4 FS? we were having issues and had to roll back to ext 3 fs to get imagining to work.
  (07:34:27 PM) GregInTexas: ugh ... risky release?
  (07:34:29 PM) evermind: not sites shutodwn
  (07:34:31 PM) evermind: just the domains
  (07:34:36 PM) evermind: the names are gone the ips are still there
  (07:34:38 PM) evermind: ;)
  (07:34:54 PM) evermind: the usual security by obscurity
  (07:35:42 PM) warcow105: lol, good job Hillary
  (07:36:00 PM) evermind: talking bout dns names, peter sund is currently working on something called p2pdns
  (07:36:16 PM) _Jot_: a-me-the-ra
  (07:36:19 PM) Gadwil: I would love to try p2pdns. Sounds good.
  (07:36:26 PM) GoodGuy: Terabyte also sells imaging products with Windows, Linux and DOS versions... I have used it to backup and restore my EXT4 partitions
  (07:36:29 PM) evermind: id love to try though, atm only for fun though
  (07:36:47 PM) evermind: some admins are horrified, since when everyone plays names, everyone can put anyone up with some name
  (07:36:51 PM) GoodGuy: Image for Windows, etc
  (07:37:23 PM) Gadwil: goodguy, Unfortuatly we must use Novell Zenworks, it is what the school uses when imaging drives to the mainframes.
  (07:37:39 PM) Yazid: Great job Hillary
  (07:37:43 PM) GoodGuy: The interfaces aren't good looking, but it worked fine
  (07:38:06 PM) GoodGuy: Zenworks is new to me
  (07:38:29 PM) evermind: theres a ton of these products out there, still, if youve seen one imagine soft...
  (07:38:53 PM) GregInTexas: we use zenworks for windows machines, but didn't know it would even work with linux machines
  (07:39:02 PM) GoodGuy: Acronis charges for a new release when they fix bugs
  (07:39:04 PM) GregInTexas: I'm not telling the network people
  (07:39:22 PM) daliwiti [6363ab5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.99.171.93] entered the room.
  (07:39:43 PM) evermind: welcome daliwiti
  (07:39:58 PM) GoodGuy: I see too many bad ratings when I read Acronis user reviews
  (07:40:00 PM) Guest_2889 [415fc158@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.95.193.88] entered the room.
  (07:40:03 PM) Hillary: alrighty people, enjoy the rest of the show i must depart!
  (07:40:10 PM) Gadwil: Bye Hillary!
  (07:40:12 PM) evermind: cu hillary
  (07:40:12 PM) warcow105: see ya Hillary
  (07:40:12 PM) GoodGuy: Bye Miss Hillary
  (07:40:14 PM) GregInTexas: enjoyed it Hillary!
  (07:40:15 PM) evermind: thx for the news
  (07:40:19 PM) Wreken: good luck.. coolbeans.. stay warm
  (07:40:30 PM) Hillary: keep it real people! :) cool beans to you!
  (07:40:48 PM) lanceman: Bye Hillary
  (07:41:18 PM) GoodGuy: I watch a podcast from Dr Bill... he showed a Techpodcasts.com iirc
  (07:41:23 PM) Gadwil: i want Cat5 Desktop player!
  (07:41:24 PM) Guest_2889: miss you more Hillary
  (07:41:31 PM) GoodGuy: Something close to that spelling
  (07:41:42 PM) evermind: a podcast is a term originally brought to use from the apple ppls, for something that used to be an audio recording, isnt it
  (07:42:13 PM) GoodGuy: http://www.techpodcasts.com/
  (07:42:31 PM) GoodGuy: You should add cat5 to them
  (07:42:47 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: GoodGuy: My podcast is on the Tech Podcast Network
  (07:43:15 PM) GoodGuy: Maybe you can pass the info along to RobbieF and join you there
  (07:43:17 PM) Gadwil: RobbieF, If they have a guest-room I hope it comes with a dictionary that teaches proper pronunciation.
  (07:43:31 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: GoodGuy: Any particular reason?
  (07:43:39 PM) lanceman: Hey GWG, what is the name of your podcast.
  (07:43:43 PM) GoodGuy: More exposure
  (07:43:48 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Android Buffet - www.androidbuffet.com
  (07:44:07 PM) warcow105: hey hey, no cross promotion
  (07:44:10 PM) warcow105: lol jk
  (07:44:10 PM) lanceman: GWG Thank you.
  (07:45:01 PM) Gadwil: I would rather just turn UAC off. Saves me plenty of time and hassel.
  (07:45:07 PM) Newa: place to check for local guestrooms: http://www.couchsurfing.org/
  (07:45:12 PM) evermind: uac.me
  (07:45:43 PM) evermind: wow, now that is secure
  (07:46:34 PM) GregInTexas: looks like you are pumping out episodes GWG ...
  (07:46:45 PM) ajamison5579: u can control the sensativety of UAC in windows 7
  (07:46:47 PM) evermind: one could tell the coders to not run stuff in ring zero
  (07:46:51 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: GregInTexas: 21 will be released tonight, hopefully. Gingerbread galore
  (07:46:59 PM) evermind: but thats really out of the topic
  (07:47:07 PM) Gadwil: RobbieF, I think it is more to try to emulate the privilege raising like Linux/Unix systems.
  (07:47:30 PM) GregInTexas: I'll listen when this is done ...
  (07:47:45 PM) GregInTexas: You were just getting started last time I was on android buffet
  (07:48:09 PM) Cory`: RobbieF, have you mentioned anything about Synapse, the new GNOME-Do?
  (07:48:36 PM) evermind: talking bout new stuff, anyone tried 11.04 yet?
  (07:48:41 PM) GregInTexas: anyone have experience with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.10?
  (07:48:45 PM) evermind: im a bit scared by their switch on desktop
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  (07:49:24 PM) evermind: 11.04 would be ubu 11.04
  (07:49:33 PM) GregInTexas: does Compviz still run on Unity?
  (07:50:01 PM) evermind: i dont think its something in unity telling compiz not to run
  (07:50:10 PM) evermind: its more a q of is your gfx chip supported
  (07:50:29 PM) GregInTexas: really ... so compviz is independent of gnome?
  (07:50:34 PM) evermind: it always was
  (07:50:52 PM) GregInTexas: so you could run compviz on kde or unity or whatever .... hmmm
  (07:50:58 PM) evermind: of course
  (07:51:09 PM) evermind: its "between" your windowserver and your desktop env
  (07:51:14 PM) GregInTexas: still not an expert on linux on the desktop
  (07:51:40 PM) Guest_4877: what the difference between ubuntu and kbuntu?
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  (07:51:45 PM) GregInTexas: I mainly use it to admin my linux servers, but am playing more and more
  (07:51:55 PM) evermind: thats why the animations on 11.04 already work, they didnt have to migrate with gnomeshell
  (07:52:03 PM) GregInTexas: ubuntu comes with gnome, kubuntu comes with kde
  (07:52:06 PM) GoodGuy: Unity doesn't work in Virtualbox (on my system anyway)
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  (07:52:10 PM) evermind: kubuntu comes with kde as default, ubuntu with gnome as default
  (07:52:18 PM) evermind: but you can change em to your needs vice versa
  (07:52:37 PM) evermind: theres kde in ubuntu too, all you have to do is install it
  (07:52:40 PM) GoodGuy: I added it to my 10.10 system, but its a normal install
  (07:53:03 PM) GregInTexas: do you like kde? vs gnome?
  (07:53:13 PM) evermind: for your virtualbox setup, what exact error do you get when you try to install unity, goodguy?
  (07:53:19 PM) evermind: im a gnome user
  (07:53:31 PM) Gadwil: Odd, my GIMP normally says Gradient.
  (07:53:32 PM) evermind: it has its odds, but in general, i became attached to it over the years
  (07:53:34 PM) GregInTexas: I've not tried KDE in years and years
  (07:53:40 PM) GoodGuy: It says it doesnt support it w/o 3D support, but I turned that on
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  (07:53:56 PM) evermind: ive used kde1x and kde2x, then switched to gnome 1.4.x
  (07:54:01 PM) GoodGuy: I did some google searching and others have the same problem
  (07:54:07 PM) evermind: had some waimea and openbox inbetween
  (07:54:13 PM) evermind: but then back to gnome and never switched back
  (07:54:17 PM) GregInTexas: I did too, evermind
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  (07:54:37 PM) GregInTexas: I tried gnome on SUSE and never went back
  (07:54:57 PM) GoodGuy: Mint seems like KDE on a GNOME system
  (07:55:05 PM) evermind: GoodGuy, that could have many reasons, what does the log say when you try to start it, and have you tried to start compiz stuff from the shell?
  (07:55:06 PM) GoodGuy: KDE like menu look
  (07:55:13 PM) evermind: sometimes shell output tells alot bout why things fail
  (07:55:23 PM) GoodGuy: No evermind.. I didnt pursue it that far
  (07:55:31 PM) Gadwil: Anyone have a good guide to installing the Proprietary Nvidia drivers in Fedora?
  (07:55:33 PM) GregInTexas: I have a friend that is raving about the KDE
  (07:55:46 PM) evermind: Gadwil, rpm -Uvh nvidia*.rpm
  (07:55:48 PM) evermind: ;)
  (07:55:51 PM) evermind: no joke
  (07:55:59 PM) GoodGuy: I installed Unity on my real 10.10 install just to get an idea what it looks like
  (07:56:23 PM) Gadwil: Evermind, IS there any way to install via Yum?
  (07:56:38 PM) evermind: if you find a fedora repo of em, yes
  (07:56:41 PM) evermind: never checked though
  (07:56:42 PM) Gadwil: I installed the drivers from there (173) and the control settings.
  (07:56:51 PM) Femi: there is also a gimp podcast tutorial
  (07:56:51 PM) Femi: http://feedpixel.com/14
  (07:57:15 PM) Gadwil: I tried running the config command earlier, didn't work, just re-ran it and this time it says it created the new xorg.conf file, so once I reboot I am hoping it works.
  (07:57:22 PM) GoodGuy: I believe I saw a few in Miro Femi
  (07:57:34 PM) Gadwil: I will use this 32bit system to get all the kinks out of my installation, then I will install the 64bit one later.
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  (07:58:56 PM) Gadwil: Ooo, more breakage coming soon to Cat5.tv!
  (07:58:58 PM) evermind: 11.04 unity and compiz:
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  (07:59:16 PM) Gadwil: I love it when Robbie has to work through the wirecast issues that come up.
  (07:59:20 PM) Gadwil: at least they aren't often.
  (07:59:23 PM) Yazid: @gadwil http://rpmfusion.org/
  (07:59:31 PM) Gadwil: and normally not related to wirecast.... how odd.
  (07:59:36 PM) GregInTexas: boy those look weird
  (07:59:47 PM) evermind: 3d glasses
  (07:59:53 PM) GregInTexas: yep
  (07:59:57 PM) calhydro: bye bye guys
  (07:59:58 PM) evermind: for the extra kick out of real life;)
  (08:00:01 PM) GregInTexas: looks like a pirate
  (08:00:05 PM) Gadwil: Yazid, I think I am already using those Repo's.
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  (08:00:17 PM) evermind: hehehe, it kinda remembered me on a sniper
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  (08:00:18 PM) GregInTexas: show already over ... boy that was fast
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  (08:00:24 PM) warcow105: fun fun fun as always
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  (08:00:28 PM) evermind: indeed
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  (08:00:29 PM) evermind: nice show
  (08:00:30 PM) Yazid: There's a how to for the drivers on the website
  (08:00:31 PM) Gadwil: Now I get to catch the re-run tomorrow or Thursday.
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  (08:00:38 PM) Femi: good night from sweden
  (08:00:49 PM) GregInTexas: night Femi
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  (08:00:50 PM) Gadwil: Ok, thanks yazid, but I think I just got it working a few moments ago, just need to reboot to test.
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  (08:01:07 PM) Yazid: you're welcome
  (08:01:16 PM) Yazid: Good night all
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