Conversation with #category5

(06:43:00 PM) RobbieF has changed the topic to: www.Category5.TV - On tonight's show: make the web more readable.
(06:59:55 PM) jaepea: hi all
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(07:00:16 PM) Crewsr3: seats everyone!
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(07:00:22 PM) komputes: Since Cat5 is based in Canada, I would recommend we mention the fact that Linuc users are no longer able to access CBC.ca
(07:00:28 PM) Gadwil: Smooth so far...
(07:00:28 PM) mmdmurphy: 32, cold and clear in Akron Ohio
(07:00:29 PM) coskibum: thiebuade have you tried using VLC?
(07:00:34 PM) _Jot_: had to refresh once
(07:00:43 PM) LoOoD: triple www
(07:00:43 PM) poetofzwan: wow did video just work immediately without refresh
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(07:00:45 PM) agamotto: Hmmm, they moved to Flash? I wonder if VLC might be able to parse it?
(07:00:46 PM) Gadwil: Ah, we made it through the intro without a crash! WOW!
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(07:01:03 PM) mathman47: CHRISTY: In Chicago it is 31°F or 0°C. 1.5" of new snow.
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(07:01:13 PM) _Jot_: poor Christy being pushed away as soon as weather comes up
(07:01:25 PM) komputes: zimbra fail!
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(07:01:42 PM) ***komputes crosses fingers
(07:01:50 PM) agamotto: What is occuring 02/3?
(07:01:51 PM) coskibum: And the crowd started chanting Christy, Christy...
(07:02:01 PM) _Jot_: agamotto, interview with zimbra
(07:02:04 PM) thiebaude: i give up
(07:02:06 PM) agamotto: Ahhh
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(07:02:14 PM) agamotto: I came in just as the date was announce
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(07:02:18 PM) Crewsr3: mathman47, are you in Chicago
(07:02:24 PM) poetofzwan: we should look at best way to get weather reports on your computer. Gnome Docky has lovely weather applet.
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(07:02:38 PM) _Jot_: agamotto, delayed again because they are very busy at zimbra
(07:02:39 PM) Gadwil: Anyone have a crash yet?
(07:02:49 PM) GoodGuy: Thank you Hillary
(07:02:50 PM) agamotto: I like the weather thing built into the clock in Gnome
(07:02:51 PM) Guest_6522: RobbieF: please stop the weather crap!
(07:02:57 PM) mathman47: CREWSR3: Actually I'm in Lisle, about 30 miles SW.
(07:03:02 PM) Alexandra: -15 celsius in Sweden
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(07:03:06 PM) komputes: -9 in montreal
(07:03:16 PM) Crewsr3: mathman47, I just moved from Chicago, I worked down town
(07:03:18 PM) GoodGuy: Robbie isnt doing it Guest_6522 ... pay attn :-)
(07:03:26 PM) agamotto: Christy: Yes, you have the pronunciation correct
(07:03:28 PM) Hillary: :)
(07:03:29 PM) GoodGuy: It's usually Christy
(07:03:31 PM) Crewsr3: How lives in Denver?
(07:03:35 PM) Guest_5573: Naples , FL in the 70's F
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(07:03:38 PM) Crewsr3: who lives in Denver?
(07:03:42 PM) Gadwil: Should we make C a standard now?
(07:03:47 PM) komputes: Google!
(07:03:48 PM) coskibum: coskibum - Denver
(07:03:51 PM) mmdmurphy: SOUNDS LIKE A SETUP
(07:03:51 PM) poetofzwan: -2 Celsius in Scotland
(07:03:55 PM) mathman47: Use Excel
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(07:03:56 PM) GoodGuy: I have a friend in Naples Guest_5573
(07:04:04 PM) Crewsr3: coskibum, I just moved back to Colorado
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(07:04:11 PM) GoodGuy: Rainy this afternoon
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(07:04:16 PM) Crewsr3: I'm up in the Fort Collins area....
(07:04:19 PM) agamotto: C is a standard, so is C++. It all depends on whether or not you are doing OO coding or not
(07:04:23 PM) komputes: no that's not staged at all ....
(07:04:24 PM) mmdmurphy: letting a joke pass...
(07:04:24 PM) coskibum: Aurora
(07:04:31 PM) thiebaude: no video
(07:04:31 PM) Gadwil: lol
(07:04:37 PM) agamotto: Oh, you meant Centigrade... never mind
(07:04:48 PM) Crewsr3: coskibum, by the way the makes of Unraid are in Fort Collins and the makes of system76 is in Denver
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(07:05:14 PM) komputes: RobbieF: IT Crowd quote - nice!
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(07:05:26 PM) GoodGuy: No its rainy in Naples FL... snowing here in Warren, MI
(07:05:27 PM) poetofzwan: No typing "Bing" into Google breaks the internet
(07:05:30 PM) _Jot_: it says 'no searchresults found matching 'google'
(07:05:32 PM) Crewsr3: coskibum, My grandma and uncle live in Aurora....My Dad grew up there
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(07:05:37 PM) agamotto: I wish the US would grow the mivnoks to try running a nuke reactor with thorium.... almost no by-products
(07:05:59 PM) Alexandra: Christy: -15 and snowing in Sweden. Polarbears are walking the streets ;)
(07:05:59 PM) agamotto: I thought it was typing Baidu into Google that broke the net
(07:06:00 PM) Crewsr3: coskibum, sorry for all of the bad spelling/typing
(07:06:02 PM) Gadwil: agamotto, I am with you on that one, we need to make a major shift to thorium.
(07:06:05 PM) thiebaude: RobbieF:
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(07:06:08 PM) Christy: Crewsr3 I live near Aurora
(07:06:13 PM) Crewsr3: I have to run will be back after dinner
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(07:06:17 PM) Guest_5573: Is any body planning on building a new system with the 6 core Intel CPU's coming out?
(07:06:21 PM) ***agamotto gives Hillary a welcome hug
(07:06:23 PM) Crewsr3: Christy, Aurora in Canada?
(07:06:24 PM) Alexandra: No no, Explorer broke it...
(07:06:28 PM) thiebaude: what time is the show starting?
(07:06:43 PM) GoodGuy: What is the model of the CPU Guest_5573?
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(07:06:48 PM) Christy: Alexandra, sorry - weather feature is now shut down sigh
(07:06:50 PM) _Jot_: thiebaude, you mean the show that started about 6 minutes ago?
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(07:06:55 PM) Christy: Crewsr3 yes
(07:06:58 PM) thiebaude: yea, i have no video
(07:07:05 PM) coskibum: crewr3 sorry I missed what you sent, I crashed
(07:07:06 PM) agamotto: 6-core? When did those come out?
(07:07:16 PM) Christy: jot lol
(07:07:17 PM) GoodGuy: Could the Guest's please change to a unique nickname ..... /nick Whatever
(07:07:18 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: The 32-bit plugin got me video back
(07:07:22 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Oh, well.
(07:07:28 PM) Alexandra: Christy: Ooooh, to bad. Gonna type faster next episode ;)
(07:07:39 PM) Guest_5573: It will be like i7 but with 6 dual cores.
(07:07:41 PM) Christy: GoodGuy, yes, it's so much more fun
(07:07:42 PM) thiebaude: im levaving
(07:07:43 PM) Guest27059: not I I still have to watch via XP Mode in windows
(07:07:45 PM) Guest27059: lol
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(07:07:50 PM) komputes: RobbieF: spoke to CBC.ca, they wanted to monetize using ads
(07:07:53 PM) _Jot_: Alexandra, we told her as soon as she came in
(07:07:54 PM) Christy: Alexandra yes!
(07:07:57 PM) komputes: RobbieF: they will not support linux :(
(07:08:03 PM) mmdmurphy: thiebaude - bye!
(07:08:12 PM) arand: Stream died.
(07:08:18 PM) GoodGuy: hard to get to know folks with nicknames of Guest....
(07:08:21 PM) agamotto: komputes, That sucks
(07:08:23 PM) _Jot_: stream is working for me, arand
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(07:08:35 PM) Alexandra: _Jot_: I was a bit late online
(07:08:36 PM) arand: Ah, there goes
(07:08:36 PM) komputes: RobbieF: can you show what happens when you try to play a video off cbc
(07:08:47 PM) calhydro: Robbie: What do you think about the IE6 Death petition after the China mess?
(07:08:57 PM) poetofzwan: RobbieF: What do you think of new Apple iPad (sorry someone had to ask)? Any better tablet choices for Linux user yet? I know there is loads of Android and Chrome OS tablets being developed...not sure if any are out yet.
(07:09:11 PM) agamotto: YES!!!!!!!!!!
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(07:09:18 PM) mmdmurphy: IE6 is TOO old.
(07:09:21 PM) agamotto: Now if we could just do the same with all IE!
(07:09:24 PM) Gadwil: poetofzwan, wait for the newsroom.
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(07:09:40 PM) poetofzwan: Gadwil ahh ok!
(07:09:49 PM) agamotto: I find the iPad interesting for those who don't want a 'computer,' for the rest of us, meh.
(07:09:51 PM) Gadwil: Or we can go over it now.
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(07:10:00 PM) Gadwil: I think we should hack the iPad to run Ubuntu....
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(07:10:07 PM) _Jot_: there have been tablet-computers for many years already, dozens of models available, mostly died out because nobody wanted them
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(07:10:34 PM) GoodGuy: hi
(07:10:35 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I sent a question to live@category5.tv
(07:10:42 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Oh, and I got my first Android-based phone
(07:10:48 PM) mmdmurphy: Hey.
(07:10:56 PM) Alexandra: Robbie:We know everything now...
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(07:11:02 PM) nodch: Gratz at @GadgetWisdomGuru ;)
(07:11:10 PM) thiebaude: RobbieF: no video
(07:11:14 PM) Gadwil: Be back guys.. Pizza time coskibum!
(07:11:23 PM) talibcyg: Good evening Gang 33 degrees in NYC
(07:11:23 PM) GoodGuy: Working great here thiebaude
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(07:11:26 PM) poetofzwan: Does anyone know if Ubuntu would work with a touch screen (like Win 7)?
(07:11:30 PM) coskibum: LOL
(07:11:36 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Nodch, thank you. One person said, "Welcome to 1999." when I said it was my first smartphone
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(07:12:00 PM) agamotto: poetofzwan, If it emulates a mouse with the touchscreen, yes it should work w/o drivers
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(07:12:10 PM) mmdmurphy: OK, does linux support U3???
(07:12:12 PM) coskibum: Crewsr3 - mmm Fat Tire...
(07:12:12 PM) mmdmurphy: TOSHIBA
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(07:12:20 PM) mmdmurphy: Ok, will send after the show
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(07:12:32 PM) dfear: RobbieF: U3 drive, try formating it using GParted.
(07:12:35 PM) nodch: @GadgetWisdomGuru I know what you mean, had the same responses last year, when I joined the Smartphone crowd ;)
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(07:12:44 PM) agamotto: GadgetWisdomGuru, How can any phone be smart? If you have to tell it who to call, it would seem quite dumb to me
(07:12:49 PM) Scorpio55: Touch screen demos on linux platform on youtube
(07:12:55 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Agamotto, app-phone then, to steal from Dvorak.
(07:12:56 PM) Guest_9424: Charlie Kent here. How do i run two monitors form one card ?
(07:13:03 PM) mmdmurphy: WILL DO.
(07:13:07 PM) agamotto: GadgetWisdomGuru, chuckle
(07:13:09 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Nodch, it wasn't the phone, it was the monthly charge.
(07:13:10 PM) Guest_5573: Robbie -- Will Pogo Plug work with Linux ?
(07:13:10 PM) Guest_5573: Robbie -- Will Pogo Plug work with Linux ?
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(07:13:28 PM) agamotto: Guest_5573, Yes, it is OS agnostic
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(07:13:36 PM) arand: RobbieF: Isn't that just that it has two partitions -- should be a simple matter of repartitioning it...
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(07:14:06 PM) Hillary: Charlie KENT!
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(07:14:09 PM) GoodGuy: ROBBIEF-Hillary: Actually I listed the two entries to delete
(07:14:16 PM) Guest_5573: OK , thanks
(07:14:24 PM) nodch: @GadgetWisdomGuru the rates here are quite low, just did not see the reason for one. Now I don't know how I did live without one
(07:14:30 PM) arand: Hiding old kernels doesn't work in grub2...
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(07:14:33 PM) GoodGuy: Giving credit where I learned the basics from
(07:14:37 PM) Alexandra: Any1 know of a good guide to dual boot Vista and Ubuntu 9.10?
(07:14:43 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I didn't see the need, but everyone told me I couldn't live without it
(07:14:46 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I'm not there yet.
(07:14:47 PM) mmdmurphy: arand - yes, I had to delete them
(07:14:48 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I'm getting there
(07:14:50 PM) poetofzwan: btw if anyone if struggling with proprietary ATI drivers (slow to unminimise windows etc) it might be worth trying experimental open Mesa drivers. Obviously could still have bugs...but they are working so so well for me. Believe they will be in Lucid.
(07:14:51 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: I need to get out more
(07:15:00 PM) _Jot_: Alexandra, first install vista, leave room for Ubuntu, then after install ubuntu
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(07:15:13 PM) agamotto: I will consider a 'smartphone' when the plans are under $50 per month, and when I spend so much time away from home that it would be useful.
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(07:15:25 PM) thiebaude: im back i got video, but not on firefox on ie8
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(07:15:32 PM) |dev-null: Btw RobbieF, For some reason I could make the variable work for me. But adding it to /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer (even for 64bit) Worked great.
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(07:15:49 PM) arand: Or actually is you want to hack a bit it is possible (of course;):http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/drask-180603/2009/12/5/howmany-for-grub-2-2466/
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(07:15:50 PM) coskibum: RobbieF Ubuntu-Tweak removes kernels easily
(07:15:56 PM) nimi_erkki: tech question to Robbie: I installed Lubuntu (mentioned last week). How to do automounting of a USB-sticks?
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(07:16:07 PM) talibcyg: ubuntu tweak has a safe kernel, cache, and package cleaner
(07:16:35 PM) Alexandra: _Jot_: Will Grub2 override vistas startup-thing?
(07:16:42 PM) arand: coskibum: True, although, seing how buggy ubuntu-tweak seems to be, I don't think I'd recommend it currently...
(07:16:53 PM) arand: Alexandra: it will overwrite the mbr
(07:16:54 PM) Guest_5573: Thanks Robbie
(07:16:56 PM) GoodGuy: Yes Alexandra
(07:16:58 PM) thiebaude: Hi RobbieF
(07:17:12 PM) poetofzwan: nimi_erkki: not sure, but sound like a bug (still Alpha release Lubuntu). Sure LXDE desktop normally mounts usb sticks.
(07:17:24 PM) Alexandra: arand, Good Guy: Ok, thanks. I'll try it.
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(07:17:29 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Agamotto, I just don't get how unlimited isn't unlimited.
(07:17:46 PM) GoodGuy: AS someone else mentioned, install Win Vista first
(07:17:49 PM) coskibum: arand I've been using it with no issues
(07:17:58 PM) komputes: RobbieF: I have to help others with Ubuntu and we are both behind firewalls. How can I remotely help that person (using ssh or vnc) if we are both behind firewalls?
(07:18:00 PM) _Jot_: Robbie, you are sooo smart
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(07:18:06 PM) GoodGuy: It will add that to GRUB2 as well as Ubuntu
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(07:18:14 PM) agamotto: GadgetWisdomGuru, Welcome to why I have a pre-paid phone
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(07:18:23 PM) thiebaude: RobbieF: video looks good
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(07:18:25 PM) GoodGuy: Port Forwarding komputes
(07:18:35 PM) coskibum: Careful Jot It will go to his head...
(07:18:36 PM) arand: coskibum: I know, but still...
(07:18:36 PM) _Jot_: *drumroll*
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(07:18:43 PM) agamotto: RobbieF: At least it isn't Faaaaabulouuuuuss
(07:18:46 PM) komputes: GoodGuy: the other person is not technical enough to forward ports
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(07:18:58 PM) GoodGuy: VNC lists the ports needed to be forwarded in the routers and fiorewalls
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(07:19:04 PM) mmdmurphy: wee!!! Sounds like fun!!
(07:19:14 PM) coskibum: Windows 7 TAX
(07:19:22 PM) talibcyg: Love the new camera transitions
(07:19:28 PM) GoodGuy: Maybe you can find a VNC type deal that uses http port 80
(07:19:28 PM) Gadwil: That would be why I re-installed XP as my gaming system today.
(07:19:42 PM) mmdmurphy: My company's standard is IE 6.0
(07:19:45 PM) thiebaude: ie6 is old anyway
(07:19:55 PM) ***agamotto asks So, how is the shutting down every 2 hours different from any other Windows session before 7?
(07:20:03 PM) thiebaude: lol
(07:20:03 PM) raptor222: phasing out probably because they were hacked through ie6!!
(07:20:05 PM) Alexandra: RobbieF: Whats the best place to put the swap? On it's on partition or on the same as your /home?
(07:20:05 PM) _Jot_: IE 6 is 9 years old now
(07:20:06 PM) poetofzwan: problem with IE6 I think is companies and public sector (NHS for example)
(07:20:07 PM) mmdmurphy: agamotto - it's less often!
(07:20:24 PM) GoodGuy: If both are using Ubuntu, I believe RobbieF covered that in an old episode.. maybe check The Meat
(07:20:25 PM) thiebaude: firefox ftw
(07:20:27 PM) arand: Alexandra: swap always needs it's own partition
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(07:20:36 PM) thiebaude: hi GoodGuy
(07:20:41 PM) GoodGuy: hi thiebaude
(07:20:51 PM) Hillary: Charlie Kent..where'd you go?
(07:20:53 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Agamotto, don't get me started on Verizon and my attempt to prepay for a week of net on a USB modem I got on Ebay.
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(07:21:03 PM) Gadwil: Great iPad segment!
(07:21:07 PM) agamotto: GadgetWisdomGuru, Verizon??? enough said
(07:21:08 PM) Alexandra: Arand: I read in a recent blogpost that it doesn't nowadays
(07:21:09 PM) poetofzwan: lmao
(07:21:13 PM) arand: Alexandra: (At least until the swap-as-file blueprint is implemented)
(07:21:15 PM) coskibum: RobbieF How long until Ubuntu pushes FF 3.6 out?
(07:21:19 PM) poetofzwan: very informative!
(07:21:20 PM) Guest_8730: it makes me smile that she doesnt really understand what shes reading
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(07:21:28 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Agamotto, $30 for 7 days of network for my vacation was not a bad deal.
(07:21:31 PM) Crewsr3: coskibum, I want to know the samething
(07:21:38 PM) mmdmurphy: Anyone try new unbuntu alpha ... 10.4??
(07:21:46 PM) thiebaude: not yet
(07:21:48 PM) thiebaude: mmdmurphy:
(07:21:48 PM) GoodGuy: I use Ubuntuzilla coskibum.. its already out using that
(07:21:49 PM) Gadwil: mmdmurphy, I am playing with it.
(07:21:56 PM) nimi_erkki: unbuntu?
(07:21:57 PM) Crewsr3: mmdmurphy, have you installed testdrive?
(07:21:57 PM) coskibum: Crewsr3 Where in Ft Collins?
(07:22:03 PM) nimi_erkki: heh
(07:22:05 PM) agamotto: GadgetWisdomGuru, True, but you are still dealing with a company who thinks turning off phone features is acceptable practice
(07:22:07 PM) mmdmurphy: NO, what is test drive?
(07:22:08 PM) GoodGuy: Google for Ubuntuzilla.. they have a repository etc
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(07:22:10 PM) komputes: GoodGuy: what was not covered was using a central service so that none of the two users needs to open up ports
(07:22:31 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Agamotto, I went to a Linux-based phone. Hack time?
(07:22:32 PM) Crewsr3: coskibum, I'm actual in North Loveland
(07:22:35 PM) arand: Alexandra: Hmm, I think so at least, which blog btw?
(07:22:49 PM) coskibum: Cool Nice area
(07:22:50 PM) calhydro: Robbie: Are the Ubuntu network adapter settings optimized for gigabit network by default or must these settings be set up. i.e. MTU
(07:22:56 PM) komputes: GoodGuy: like GoToMyPC for Linux ;)
(07:23:00 PM) GoodGuy: I havent tried it since I dont know any Ubuntu users needing help
(07:23:04 PM) Alexandra: arand: Can't remember...gonna check my history. Brb
(07:23:04 PM) Christy: nimi_erkki, hello
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(07:23:15 PM) Crewsr3: https://launchpad.net/testdrive mmdmurphy it makes it really easy to play with the daily iso
(07:23:17 PM) agamotto: GadgetWisdomGuru, With the linux-based ones, you generally don't have to. Features can't be locked out of them, as a rule.
(07:23:17 PM) GoodGuy: Do recall seeing an episode
(07:23:23 PM) mmdmurphy: THANKS will look
(07:23:30 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Yes, but I'm still mastering Android.
(07:23:38 PM) poetofzwan: Awesome!
(07:23:40 PM) nimi_erkki: hello, hello Christy.
(07:23:41 PM) jaepea: i use 10.4 64 bit
(07:23:42 PM) agamotto: calhydro, Should be auto-negotiating these days
(07:23:45 PM) |dev|null: The real problem is, "as I understand it" Mozilla has a revenue stream itself from its default settings. Its ok to take Firefox, change it, and take full responsibility for your own fork. But they seem to get mad when people just "re-brand" it.
(07:23:50 PM) poetofzwan: yes it was me
(07:23:56 PM) Crewsr3: anyone that wants to try out the lastest build of ubuntu to use test drive
(07:24:02 PM) raptor222: RobbieF two question one when do you switch the stream to 16:9 and the second one do you know of an server installable podcast aggregator (or one with web managment)
(07:24:10 PM) calhydro: Does the driver take care of that?
(07:24:43 PM) arand: Alexandra: Ah, hmm, come to think of it I think swap on file is possible as long as you don't require hibernation.
(07:24:43 PM) agamotto: calhydro, Usually, yes
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(07:24:59 PM) agamotto: arand, Correct
(07:25:02 PM) mmdmurphy: STO looks pretty cool...
(07:25:05 PM) Christy: Hey DeltaLitProf
(07:25:17 PM) calhydro: Ok, Thanks
(07:25:18 PM) agamotto: I might try STO after it has been out about six months
(07:25:19 PM) thiebaude: :)
(07:25:21 PM) komputes: grr. i hate snap links..
(07:25:48 PM) arand: Or simply use adblock & noscript...
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(07:25:51 PM) mmdmurphy: wonder how it works...
(07:26:05 PM) Alexandra: arand: ok, i'm at a diffrent computer så can't check history. but it think it was an article about dual booting vista and 9.10. one of the bigger ones.
(07:26:15 PM) DeltaLitProf: wish that could be done with English 101 papers
(07:26:18 PM) komputes: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/46442
(07:26:18 PM) Crewsr3: komputes, are snap links those things that open up when you hover over it
(07:26:27 PM) komputes: Crewsr3: yup
(07:26:32 PM) thiebaude: i hate those
(07:26:39 PM) thiebaude: annoying
(07:26:43 PM) DeltaLitProf: I dont think it refers to that kind of readability tho
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(07:27:09 PM) Christy: DeltaLitProf lol
(07:27:15 PM) thiebaude: Christy:
(07:27:24 PM) Crewsr3: komputes, I also hate those. you have to wait for them to go away to get back to what you wanted to do
(07:27:26 PM) Christy: thiebaude:
(07:27:31 PM) thiebaude: lol
(07:27:35 PM) ziggy1194: ROBBIE, can you help me install the awn dock used in the Mac4lin software at the sourceforge.net website?
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(07:27:37 PM) Alexandra: lol
(07:27:43 PM) thiebaude: Christy: weather
(07:27:47 PM) komputes: thiebaude: should try to block that host in my /etc/hosts file
(07:27:57 PM) komputes: Crewsr3: ^
(07:28:01 PM) thiebaude: thanks komputes
(07:28:05 PM) agamotto: Interesting idea...
(07:28:09 PM) Christy: thiebaude I've been cutoff sigh
(07:28:15 PM) thiebaude: haha
(07:28:16 PM) Alexandra: thiebaude is a man of few words...
(07:28:17 PM) arand: Alexandra: yea, spoke to fast, swap file should be possible with a bit of trickery, but won't work is you want to use hibernation...
(07:28:22 PM) agamotto: RobbieF, Because BAM! is over-used?
(07:28:25 PM) thiebaude: im on windows 7
(07:28:25 PM) mmdmurphy: Avatar over $2 billion...
(07:28:27 PM) Christy: Alexandra yes
(07:28:39 PM) _Jot_: often you can't put those link servers in hosts unless you add hundreds, since they generally have a subdomain for each site
(07:29:09 PM) warcow105: arrrrrrrrrrggggg....late to the party
(07:29:16 PM) thiebaude: warcow105: hey man
(07:29:18 PM) Christy: hey warcow
(07:29:19 PM) Crewsr3: warcow105, where have you been????//
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(07:29:21 PM) Hillary: komputes?
(07:29:22 PM) komputes: RobbieF: very
(07:29:32 PM) Alexandra: arand: I can live wothout hibernation, but I wonder if it's better in any way to put in /home
(07:29:32 PM) Hillary: very well versed?
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(07:29:41 PM) warcow105: got into a call of duty game with an old friend and lost track of time lol
(07:29:41 PM) agamotto: Of course, cows are slow... even Warcows....
(07:29:43 PM) ***agamotto ducks
(07:29:53 PM) arand: I've heard rumours that hamachi can do similar stuff...
(07:29:54 PM) komputes: Hillary: but i need a central computer wghich is open, I am behind a firewall too.. I have no access to change my firewall
(07:30:04 PM) Crewsr3: warcow105, man oh man you poor guy
(07:30:06 PM) komputes: Hillary: a kind of Go to my pc service for Linux
(07:30:11 PM) Crewsr3: warcow105, I got stuck at work
(07:30:15 PM) Gadwil: arand, Hamachi is a VPN, just for file sharing.
(07:30:35 PM) kciaccio: Robbie, do you see any problems streaming a bluray rip using an unraid server if the system is set up well with good hardwre and gigabyte network set up?
(07:30:41 PM) Crewsr3: Christy, Hi how are things in the News room?
(07:30:41 PM) komputes: RobbieF: unfortunately i need a solutuion for when both people are behind firewalls
(07:30:42 PM) poetofzwan: RobbieF: glad you liked Readability suggestion. It also helps a lot if you want to use a text to speech program in your browser too (as far easier to select all the body text at once).
(07:30:47 PM) ziggy1194: Here is the guide I used http://ubuntuguide.net/install-mac-os-x-theme-mac4lin-in-ubuntu-9-10karmic
(07:30:49 PM) Crewsr3: Christy, how do you like your set up?
(07:30:50 PM) jaepea: wat is best firewall fir ubuntu
(07:30:56 PM) arand: Gadwil: but can be used for gaming as well... hence I though... but I don't know though...
(07:31:03 PM) Christy: Crewsr3 I love doing news!
(07:31:17 PM) coskibum: Christy has Robbie cut off your computer yet?
(07:31:32 PM) Crewsr3: Christy, good for you, I like it how Robbie changes the camera over to you during your news and when your talking
(07:31:34 PM) Christy: coskibum, he swears it won't happen again...
(07:31:44 PM) coskibum: Yeah, Yeah
(07:31:50 PM) kciaccio: kciaccio
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(07:31:52 PM) Christy: Crewsr3 - oh - I can't see what you see lol
(07:31:55 PM) Crewsr3: Christy, did Robbie install ubuntu on your computer
(07:31:56 PM) ***DeltaLitProf is new
(07:31:58 PM) Gadwil: hi.
(07:31:59 PM) poetofzwan: I think elementary theme is better than Mac4lin
(07:32:04 PM) GoodGuy: Hi DeltaLitProf
(07:32:06 PM) kciaccio: thanks!
(07:32:11 PM) Crewsr3: Christy, I can see you on backstage pass
(07:32:13 PM) Scorpio55: vnc view uses port 5900 by default I think mke sure that port is oen
(07:32:26 PM) Crewsr3: Christy, do you watch the show once he uploads it
(07:32:27 PM) Alexandra: RobbieF: Where is the best place to put the swap? On it's own partition or same as home?
(07:32:42 PM) Christy: Crewsr3 when I can lol
(07:32:42 PM) ziggy1194: elementary theme?
(07:32:47 PM) Minotisok: Mi-Not-Is-Ok is back after a couple of months.
(07:32:52 PM) Gadwil: BSP is the most camera time Christy sees now.
(07:32:56 PM) GoodGuy: The other person isnt techy enough to open ports Scorpio55
(07:33:00 PM) GoodGuy: wb Minotisok
(07:33:09 PM) raptor222: RobbieF two question one when do you switch the stream to 16:9 and the second one do you know of an server installable podcast aggregator (or one with web managment)
(07:33:12 PM) _Jot_: Robbie, it was linux, and already answered in chat
(07:33:16 PM) Christy: Welcome back Minotisok
(07:33:27 PM) coskibum: ziggy1194 I installed through Ubuntu Tweak
(07:33:28 PM) Christy: Gadwil yes!
(07:33:31 PM) thiebaude: doesn't ubuntu set swap automatically
(07:33:34 PM) poetofzwan: ziggy1194: http://www.elementary-project.com/downloads.html also has its own PPA
(07:33:35 PM) Crewsr3: a program that I have used to get past firewalls is YuuGuu
(07:33:45 PM) Minotisok: Hey All. Kept forgetting the 7 PM US EST
(07:33:45 PM) Crewsr3: its work on ubnutu
(07:33:47 PM) thiebaude: depending on Ram
(07:33:47 PM) ziggy1194: ty
(07:33:48 PM) Gadwil: Christy, microphone is bad!
(07:33:50 PM) DeltaLitProf: having a strange computer issue: I was having repeated blue screens of death in Vista. Tried everything from updates of all drivers to a Vista reinstall. Here's what I did to solve the issue. Removed the side panel, then removed two sticks of RAM. The computer's been up for 16 hours now without a BSOD.
(07:33:57 PM) mmdmurphy: Sounds pornographic
(07:34:00 PM) Gadwil: Did you turn your microphone off?
(07:34:10 PM) Crewsr3: http://www.yuuguu.com/home Its not the best remote program but its free
(07:34:15 PM) DeltaLitProf: Now only two sticks of RAM remain in there. Computer 2 years old.
(07:34:16 PM) Gadwil: RobbieF, Christy's microphone is off it sounds like.
(07:34:19 PM) poetofzwan: ziggy1194: https://launchpad.net/~elementaryart/+archive/ppa
(07:34:25 PM) warcow105: DeltaLitProf, yeah bad ram can do that
(07:34:26 PM) GoodGuy: Have you ran a MEMTEST on the older ram DeltaLitProf?
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(07:34:28 PM) Minotisok: MY Not IS OK - Town of Minot, North Dakota, USA 58701
(07:34:32 PM) Gadwil: She did!
(07:34:41 PM) Alexandra: Video-feed gone
(07:34:42 PM) Crewsr3: you can use it to connect and then you can open their firewall in order to get better access
(07:34:54 PM) talibcyg: lol
(07:34:56 PM) coskibum: RobbieF Cut her computer now!
(07:34:56 PM) thiebaude: nice and cold
(07:34:56 PM) poetofzwan: lol
(07:34:57 PM) DeltaLitProf: I figure I'll eventually replace the two sticks of RAM I bought with new RAM
(07:34:57 PM) komputes: it works now...don't be embarrassed
(07:35:05 PM) Gadwil: 2 weeks in a row.
(07:35:06 PM) DeltaLitProf: Here in Mississippi we get a lot of humidity.
(07:35:11 PM) thiebaude: yep
(07:35:17 PM) thiebaude: just like NC
(07:35:17 PM) kciaccio: any thoughts on using unraid for a media server?
(07:35:19 PM) arand: Alexandra: It's ok here...
(07:35:27 PM) GoodGuy: You may have a bad stick and the new memory relocated the code
(07:35:27 PM) coskibum: LOL
(07:35:30 PM) Crewsr3: kciaccio, That is what I'm hoping to do
(07:35:35 PM) mmdmurphy: YEA
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(07:35:54 PM) kciaccio: Thanks, Crewsr3
(07:35:59 PM) DeltaLitProf: Right now I put no new memory in. Computer only has half the number of RAM sticks as it originally came with. Removed two of them.
(07:36:14 PM) Alexandra: RobbieF: Thanks, heard half of the answer. Video gone. Listening only now.
(07:36:21 PM) Crewsr3: kciaccio, are you planning to do the same?
(07:36:22 PM) poetofzwan: video fine for me
(07:36:26 PM) GoodGuy: Ok.... later try pulling the new memory and test the old
(07:36:28 PM) thiebaude: Alexandra: hi
(07:36:29 PM) DeltaLitProf: But it's a strange example of computer repair operating like dental work. I took out two bad teeth. And now it's working
(07:36:42 PM) GoodGuy: unless you dont care about ever using it
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(07:37:03 PM) ziggy1194: The only applet that showed up was Firefox on AWN
(07:37:03 PM) arand: Alexandra: He basically said swap on file in windows, swap on partition in linux (very helpful :/)
(07:37:04 PM) kciaccio: yes, making sure it can handle bluray rips
(07:37:13 PM) DeltaLitProf: I can tell files take longer to load
(07:37:15 PM) raptor222: robbief no when are yo planing to switch!
(07:37:22 PM) mathman47: It must be a French thing.
(07:37:23 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: 720x480 is DVD
(07:37:26 PM) raptor222: robbief no when are yo planing to switch!
(07:37:31 PM) agamotto: RobbieF: NO, he is speaking of when you bring in the frame from another camera
(07:37:38 PM) Gadwil: Why?! We need one standard for everything! Not all these mixed standards for different areas.
(07:37:42 PM) |dev|null: You can make it shut down. Packages, rsibreak, or workrave :)
(07:37:51 PM) GoodGuy: ROBBIEF-Hillary: What does that mean?
(07:38:10 PM) Crewsr3: kciaccio, are you worried that the thought put will be to low to stream a HD video clip
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(07:38:17 PM) raptor222: RobbieF no when are yo planing to switch?
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(07:38:22 PM) agamotto: When you bring in the frame, the screen looks like a 16:9 letterbox format
(07:38:43 PM) Alexandra: thiebaude: Hi there. How are u doing?
(07:38:56 PM) thiebaude: Alexandra: im fine, thanks
(07:39:02 PM) thiebaude: eating supper
(07:39:06 PM) raptor222: RobbieF no when are yo planing to switch?
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(07:39:16 PM) Alexandra: arand: Ok, thanks =)
(07:39:17 PM) ***agamotto shrugs
(07:39:36 PM) Christy: raptor222 what are you talking about
(07:39:36 PM) kciaccio: yes Crewsr3
(07:39:37 PM) kciaccio: yes Crewsr3
(07:39:41 PM) |dev|null: Suggestion for what?
(07:39:49 PM) raptor222: RobbieF no when are yo planing to switch to 16:9?
(07:39:49 PM) komputes: RobbieF: command to do what?
(07:40:03 PM) mathman47: The bottom of the screen is fluttering.
(07:40:21 PM) Christy: anyone else getting a fluttering bottom of the screen?
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(07:40:27 PM) thiebaude: not me
(07:40:29 PM) ***DeltaLitProf is
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(07:40:38 PM) kciaccio: Crewsr3, I plan on using XBMC live to be my front end on the HTPC
(07:40:41 PM) Crewsr3: kciaccio, I know software side of unRaid can handle the through put, its depends on your hardware/network
(07:40:46 PM) thiebaude: had no video for 10min earlier
(07:40:52 PM) arand: mathman47: RobbieF: Actually the whole image is fluttering in certain spots
(07:40:55 PM) thiebaude: in ff
(07:40:58 PM) poetofzwan: ahhh they are running Vista...prob the issue lol
(07:40:58 PM) Alexandra: Anyone else having a 2 min delay in chatroom?
(07:41:01 PM) Gadwil: What is the exact error message?
(07:41:01 PM) GoodGuy: XBMC is neat
(07:41:04 PM) thiebaude: nope
(07:41:08 PM) Crewsr3: kciaccio, I have been playing with XBMC and have not been very happy with it so far
(07:41:11 PM) mathman47: Christy: it stopped when it changed to Hillary.
(07:41:13 PM) Christy: Vista wouldn't work at all
(07:41:15 PM) Gadwil: Alexandra, what IRC client are you using?
(07:41:16 PM) calhydro: Robbie: Can Ubuntu handle multiple Lcds and adapters plug and play?
(07:41:18 PM) GoodGuy: no Alexandra
(07:41:19 PM) Crewsr3: kciaccio, I was thinking of going with boxee
(07:41:26 PM) Crewsr3: kciaccio, or mythtv
(07:41:27 PM) komputes: RobbieF: BashPodder http://www.lincgeek.org/bashpodder/ <- command line podcast aggregator
(07:41:30 PM) Christy: mathman, oh! ok thanks
(07:41:31 PM) coskibum: poetofzwan You beat me to it... LOL
(07:41:43 PM) raptor222: RobbieF unfortunatley, all the ones i tried didn't worked but using miro and saving to the server is aquite clever solution.
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(07:41:53 PM) Crewsr3: kciaccio, I know Mythtv can be hard to work with but that is what I'm hoping to do
(07:41:55 PM) arand: Alexandra: seems fine to me, talking about disabling now
(07:42:01 PM) thiebaude: i use pidgin in a seperate window and JTV also in a seperate window
(07:42:07 PM) GadgetWisdomGuru: Crewsr3, MythTV is easy
(07:42:13 PM) komputes: lol
(07:42:14 PM) kciaccio: Crewsr3, what issues have you experienced? It will only be for movies not web streaming or DVR stuff
(07:42:29 PM) GoodGuy: I want to get a newer spare pc and use it as a media center type pc
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(07:42:36 PM) Alexandra: Gadwill: Just clicked the link on catergory5.tv
(07:42:36 PM) mariomario: Hi I am new on here and i was wondering some of my games will not play full screen and when they do they are slow and glichy what can i do to fix this problem?
(07:42:40 PM) komputes: Le Bash Poddeur
(07:42:53 PM) thiebaude: mariomario: in windows?///
(07:43:01 PM) Crewsr3: kciaccio, I have had problems with my remote working and I have had a hard time with a gui
(07:43:13 PM) poetofzwan: mariomario: what games and what OS?
(07:43:19 PM) coskibum: Christy - The Bat Cave...
(07:43:19 PM) agamotto: mariomario, Probably need a better gfx card, or loads more RAM
(07:43:19 PM) Alexandra: Gadwil: Not my pc so I don't wanna install anything
(07:43:20 PM) kciaccio: Good to know
(07:43:21 PM) mmdmurphy: and now for the traffic report...
(07:43:22 PM) komputes: say what?
(07:43:23 PM) _Jot_: Christy, no, we can not hear you
(07:43:25 PM) mariomario: Hi I am new on here and i was wondering some of my games will not play full screen and when they do they are slow and glichy what can i do to fix this problem?
(07:43:32 PM) Crewsr3: GadgetWisdomGuru, aren't you the one that does a mythcast podcast?
(07:43:36 PM) GoodGuy: ROBBIEF-Hillary: What OS does Hillary normally use.. Ubuntu user, Windows etc?
(07:43:37 PM) Christy: Coskibum, perfect name@
(07:43:41 PM) thiebaude: mariomario: how much RAM?
(07:43:47 PM) komputes: depends on the video card
(07:43:51 PM) |dev|null: mariomario: What games, Windows or Linux, do you know what videocard you have, etc. ?
(07:43:51 PM) Gadwil: Alexandra, that would be why, it needs to go through a script, more servers, and a few other things. So there will be a delay.
(07:43:52 PM) Hillary: calhydro?
(07:43:53 PM) calhydro: Yea, yes
(07:44:03 PM) komputes: and the video driver
(07:44:10 PM) mariomario: Hi I am new on here and i was wondering some of my games will not play full screen and when they do they are slow and glichy what can i do to fix this problem?
(07:44:28 PM) warcow105: mariomario, stop spamming, we got your question
(07:44:33 PM) thiebaude: nvidia is great
(07:44:36 PM) |dev|null: mariomario: please stop spamming we are trying to help you
(07:44:40 PM) mariomario: ok sorry
(07:44:41 PM) komputes: RobbieF: Have you ever personally edited PDF's on Ubuntu?
(07:44:42 PM) calhydro: Ok, cool
(07:44:48 PM) Crewsr3: mariomario, what kind of hardware do you have
(07:44:54 PM) GoodGuy: Have you checked the game config to see if they allow for higher resolutions
(07:45:17 PM) mariomario: win xp
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(07:45:31 PM) Crewsr3: komputes, I have...I have used pdf editor
(07:45:36 PM) mmdmurphy: Online games or local???
(07:45:41 PM) mariomario: yes bilt in
(07:45:43 PM) Crewsr3: komputes, its not user friendly but it does work
(07:45:45 PM) komputes: Crewsr3: which one would you recommend?
(07:45:46 PM) thiebaude: java games?
(07:45:47 PM) Alexandra: Gadwil: Ok, thanks.
(07:45:51 PM) thiebaude: online
(07:45:59 PM) thiebaude: flash?
(07:46:03 PM) komputes: Crewsr3: yeah, I think I've seen that one, it didn't work for me
(07:46:07 PM) raptor222: mariomario buy an dedicated GPU for games
(07:46:17 PM) mariomario: doom 3
(07:46:17 PM) mariomario: doom 3
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(07:46:23 PM) thiebaude: ok
(07:46:29 PM) Crewsr3: komputes, it is really hard to work with but you can open a PDF and edit it if you need to
(07:46:31 PM) thiebaude: how much ram?
(07:46:39 PM) Crewsr3: it is a pain to work with komputes
(07:46:42 PM) thiebaude: ok
(07:46:44 PM) mariomario: and crash bandicoot
(07:46:45 PM) Cantthink96: Hello
(07:46:48 PM) Alexandra: Hiollary: I love crash!
(07:46:51 PM) thiebaude: Cantthink96: hi
(07:46:52 PM) komputes: Crewsr3: it's pdfedit that I tried, very bad
(07:46:53 PM) mariomario: and i use nvidia 6100
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(07:47:04 PM) thiebaude: older nvida
(07:47:12 PM) Alexandra: Sorry, Hillary I mean. Slipped.
(07:47:13 PM) GoodGuy: My wife practically lives on Facebook's Farmsville.. Dr Phil did an episode on Farmsville addiction lol
(07:47:16 PM) mariomario: geforc 6100
(07:47:22 PM) Hillary: haha, it's all gooodd! funnny!
(07:47:24 PM) ***agamotto fantasizes over the idea of my own magic wand telly remote....
(07:47:25 PM) thiebaude: lower model
(07:47:27 PM) Christy: Cantthink96 me too :-D
(07:47:34 PM) Cantthink96: Can you join this from mirc?
(07:47:36 PM) mmdmurphy: gosh, I forgot all about doom 3...
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(07:47:41 PM) thiebaude: from irc
(07:47:47 PM) jaepea: go 8400
(07:47:57 PM) agamotto: You might be able to find 7600 series in AGP, not sure about something like 8800
(07:47:57 PM) thiebaude: pidgin, xchat etc
(07:47:59 PM) GoodGuy: I am doing it now Cant
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(07:48:05 PM) raptor222: mariomario maybe you should buy a new computer altogether
(07:48:15 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy, I am so sorry....
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(07:48:18 PM) warcow105: the highest nvidia agp i have seen was a 7950 or something
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(07:48:22 PM) thiebaude: raptor222: sounds like a good idea
(07:48:28 PM) mmdmurphy: mariomario - how much junk is on your system? Maybe if you clean the heck out of it...??
(07:48:30 PM) _Jot_: f you can't run doom 3 these days, you are more likely cheaper in buying a new computer
(07:48:32 PM) GoodGuy: GoodGuy uses VERSION mIRC v6.35 Khaled Mardam-Bey
(07:48:33 PM) raptor222: true
(07:48:37 PM) thiebaude: how much RAM?
(07:48:43 PM) komputes: RobbieF: Continuing with video questions - Is there a concept of a "Main/Primary" Monitor in X.org?
(07:48:43 PM) mariomario: will doom 3 work on my windows 7 laptop
(07:48:44 PM) Alexandra: sad
(07:48:49 PM) Gadwil: It is like running Crysis on an ATI Mobile 200 series card... just won't work.
(07:48:52 PM) thiebaude: yes
(07:48:52 PM) Minotisok: go to NewEgg and get an Nvidia 8400 GS for less than $30 US
(07:48:56 PM) agamotto: mariomario, That shouldn't be a problem
(07:48:57 PM) _Jot_: mariomario, it will most likely run better than your other computer
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(07:49:01 PM) Guest_7295: what do you mean christy
(07:49:01 PM) Vaerin12: any idea why my laptop keeps giving me a "you can safely remove hardware" message? when i check the hardware its a USB mass storage device, but i have no USB devices connected?
(07:49:02 PM) Guest_7295: your too cheasy
(07:49:04 PM) thiebaude: with the right hardware
(07:49:07 PM) Guest_7295: ?
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(07:49:09 PM) Guest_7295: christy
(07:49:21 PM) Guest_7295: ?
(07:49:22 PM) thiebaude: windows 7 1gb min RAM
(07:49:31 PM) |dev|null: Doom 3 is actually kind of old by todays standards. If your hardware cant support it. You would be spending more money trying to upgrade, than you would spend just buying a new computer.
(07:49:31 PM) _Jot_: Vaerin12, it can be something is connected to USB internally, like the network-card or bluetooth
(07:49:32 PM) Christy: Guest_7295 I meant I can't think too
(07:49:35 PM) Guest_7295: ?
(07:49:40 PM) agamotto: Vaerin12, You didn't 'cleanly' uninstall it the last time it was in
(07:49:43 PM) komputes: please
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(07:49:45 PM) mmdmurphy: YES
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(07:50:01 PM) Vaerin12: i have never used a USB storage device though
(07:50:02 PM) Vaerin12: i have never used a USB storage device though
(07:50:03 PM) komputes: oh no! proprietary software!!!
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(07:50:07 PM) agamotto: If you can't play Oblivion with most of the eye-candy on, you need to upgrade or replace
(07:50:12 PM) Cantthink96: hello
(07:50:22 PM) agamotto: Vaerin12, Now, that is interesting....
(07:50:23 PM) Cantthink96: christy what do you mean your to cheesy
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(07:50:28 PM) Vaerin12: yea hehe
(07:50:51 PM) agamotto: Cantthink96, You clearly hail from Wisconsin, hence you are 'cheesy.'
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(07:50:56 PM) komputes: RobbieF: but how do you define the Primary monitor?
(07:51:10 PM) Minotisok: ATI still not good enough in Linux.
(07:51:11 PM) Vaerin12: i did reformat the laptop about 3 weeks ago
(07:51:20 PM) Vaerin12: do you think i missed some driver installs maybe?
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(07:51:33 PM) jaepea: i play doom 3 and use a 8400
(07:51:33 PM) agamotto: komputes, in the Xorg.conf, it should be 'screen 0'
(07:51:37 PM) Gadwil: It says "Make this primary Display" under the settings... I just set up a 2nd monitor.
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(07:51:54 PM) mmdmurphy: agamotto : YES
(07:51:55 PM) |dev|null: It is chosen based on what port the monitor is plugged in to. But in Xorg.conf you can setup your serverlayout section for that.
(07:51:55 PM) agamotto: Vaerin12, Something like, yes
(07:51:57 PM) warcow105: komputes, you select the monitor and there is an option to make it primary
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(07:52:03 PM) GoodGuy: ATI seems to have the high performance video cards for the $$$$, but Linux use matters to me
(07:52:07 PM) komputes: agamotto: unfortunatly the new bulletproof xorg doesn't use an xorg.conf
(07:52:11 PM) raptor222: RobbieF i just set up an ati card with ubuntu 9.10, it was quite easy and practicaly without any glitches
(07:52:20 PM) agamotto: In Xorg.conf, my 32" telly shows up as TWO screens
(07:52:23 PM) Gadwil: You may need to play around with Positions to get interfaces to work properly.
(07:52:23 PM) thiebaude: i've configured xorg.conf soo many times
(07:52:25 PM) poetofzwan: RobbieF: just a quick note. The experimental open Mesa driver for ATI are great (far far better with compiz), been testing them. They are due to be in Lucid. Which is great news for Linux users!
(07:52:35 PM) komputes: warcow105: not using nvidia-settings only gnome-screen properties
(07:52:46 PM) agamotto: komputes, It should still be screen 0, even in the new version
(07:52:50 PM) warcow105: komputes, nvidia card?
(07:52:58 PM) ajamison5579: Ok RobbieF I hate justin.tv's issues ustream has no issues it seems as BSP works but dang i hate having to boot into XP Mode just to watch the show lol I would be sending J.tv hell
(07:53:03 PM) komputes: warcow105: intel
(07:53:07 PM) warcow105: ahh
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(07:53:11 PM) mmdmurphy: Read Write?
(07:53:30 PM) thiebaude: ajamison5579: i cant play JTV video on FF only ie8
(07:53:47 PM) agamotto: ajamison5579, Funny that. I had most of my problems WITH Ustream....
(07:53:50 PM) warcow105: komputes, well i dont know then lol
(07:53:54 PM) ajamison5579: lol
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(07:53:55 PM) komputes: Other command line Podcast software can be found here: http://www.podcastingnews.com/topics/Podcast_Software.html
(07:53:56 PM) |dev|null: Pause/Break key.
(07:53:56 PM) Minotisok: poetofzwan: do you have a URL for the newest info on Open Mesa and ATI?
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(07:54:10 PM) komputes: warcow105: I don't believe there is such a concept.
(07:54:24 PM) mariomario: is this only for computer help or game system help too? (everyone)
(07:54:25 PM) ajamison5579: I wonder if it is a setting somewhere because i was able to watch the golden globes on justin.tv just fine
(07:54:25 PM) komputes: warcow105: it's wherever you put you panels
(07:54:29 PM) komputes: ;)
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(07:54:31 PM) agamotto: komputes, Blind users would find it an advantage
(07:54:50 PM) GoodGuy: ROBBIEF-Hillary: Can they run Unraid under a Virtual Machine?
(07:54:51 PM) warcow105: komputes, you can easily adjust it in the xorg.conf
(07:54:56 PM) rd_blair: I AM HAVING PROBLEMS
(07:55:04 PM) thiebaude: no caps please
(07:55:05 PM) komputes: agamotto: once again, ubuntu stopped using an xorg.conf file
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(07:55:10 PM) agamotto: rd_blair, Specify
(07:55:11 PM) komputes: warcow105: ^
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(07:55:23 PM) mmdmurphy: GoodGuy - why??? Seems like an odd thing to do...
(07:55:24 PM) ajamison5579: komputes not a Ubuntu thing it was a Xorg thing
(07:55:26 PM) poetofzwan: Minotisok: its not quite that simple but here is a forum thread (need to upgrade kernel then use xorg-edgers PPA): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1257453
(07:55:28 PM) agamotto: komputes, Ok, but there has to be a configuration file somewhere, non?
(07:55:29 PM) _Jot_: mariomario, generally there isn't a lot you can do with gamesystems other than contact the seller
(07:55:30 PM) ajamison5579: you can still use one
(07:55:42 PM) Christy: rd_blair what kind of problems?
(07:55:43 PM) GoodGuy: You can see the startup messages mmdmurphy
(07:55:49 PM) ajamison5579: just it does not have one by default it works as an overide file now
(07:55:52 PM) Minotisok: poetofzwan: Thanks!
(07:56:01 PM) ajamison5579: it will overide the automatic settings
(07:56:06 PM) mariomario: ok thank
(07:56:15 PM) komputes: agamotto: it's actually in memory I think, it detects the video hardware at every boot and no longer relies on the xorg.conf
(07:56:23 PM) |dev|null: komputes: Well. It is still there and you can still use it, But by default everything is autodetected.
(07:56:26 PM) mariomario: thanks for the help
(07:56:30 PM) agamotto: komputes, Hmmm, I will have to look into that
(07:56:34 PM) GoodGuy: carets
(07:56:34 PM) komputes: |dev|null: true
(07:56:41 PM) Vaerin12: Greater than less than
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(07:57:07 PM) Guest_5590: ">" versus ".." depends on your noclobber setting - may not overwrite
(07:57:09 PM) agamotto: ^ is a caret
(07:57:20 PM) Gadwil: RobbieF, follow-up on dual monitors... When he/she gets things just the way they want it they should save it to the Configuration File. To do that you run Nvidia Settings as Root and save config file. But, they may need to go into /etc/X11 and delete/rename the xorg.conf file to allow the nvidia settings manager to save/create a new one. that seems to be a common bug with using dual-monitors.
(07:57:22 PM) agamotto: <> are mathematical, usually
(07:57:25 PM) poetofzwan: Minotisok: page two of thread has easiest explanation. If you do try it (which you may not want to do) Install kernel first before adding/upgrading xorg-edgers PPA
(07:57:30 PM) GoodGuy: Duh thats what I meant agamotto.. slow tonight
(07:57:36 PM) ajamison5579: Curse you Justin.tv vurse you to heck
(07:57:41 PM) ***agamotto grins
(07:57:43 PM) warcow105: komputes, i just checked, if a xorg.conf exists it will honor it
(07:57:43 PM) ajamison5579: *curse
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(07:57:51 PM) thiebaude: agree
(07:58:00 PM) Minotisok: poetofzwan - I'm reading now.
(07:58:00 PM) agamotto: Gadwil, Correct
(07:58:18 PM) thiebaude: lol
(07:58:38 PM) agamotto: We are a batch of busy bees.....
(07:58:42 PM) ajamison5579: now recorded content on Jtv works fine just the streaming stuff is iffy
(07:58:44 PM) komputes: warcow105: what we need is an abstraction or front end to configure xorg.conf
(07:58:54 PM) ajamison5579: komputes
(07:58:58 PM) ajamison5579: there exists one
(07:59:00 PM) Gadwil: A full episode without a major crash!
(07:59:05 PM) thiebaude: RobbieF: one day will you go back to ustream?
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(07:59:10 PM) ajamison5579: sudo apt-get install system-confic-display
(07:59:13 PM) poetofzwan: RobbieF: You are human...really!
(07:59:16 PM) Christy: Gadwil wow
(07:59:16 PM) poetofzwan: lol
(07:59:17 PM) ajamison5579: ported from fedora to ubuntu
(07:59:20 PM) warcow105: komputes, the thing is xorg is easy to configure, the difficult part is the different options between drivers
(07:59:24 PM) komputes: ajamison5579: thanks for the tip
(07:59:25 PM) _Jot_: Hillary, don't say what you can't promise :)
(07:59:46 PM) ajamison5579: opps typo system-config-display
(07:59:47 PM) Hillary: in regards to love? :P
(07:59:48 PM) komputes: warcow105: one misspelled word causes it to fail - that is not easy for my grandmother ;)
(07:59:55 PM) _Jot_: Hillary, good example
(07:59:56 PM) agamotto: Ubuntu Hacks has a good section in it about correcting things in xorg.conf
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(08:00:01 PM) thiebaude: another great show again RobbieF
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(08:00:09 PM) |dev|null: RobbieF: For our favorite news desk lady, and her computer, you should look at the packages, rsibreak, or workrave *wink wink*
(08:00:27 PM) agamotto: |dev|null, Nah, such tool are for wimps
(08:00:28 PM) warcow105: komputes, i doubt your grandmother would be concerned with editing it when ubuntu will probably boot up fine as is
(08:00:35 PM) coskibum: Thanks you guys for a great show!!
(08:00:41 PM) komputes: warcow105: you'd be surprised
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(08:00:50 PM) agamotto: I have been typing for over 35 years, no RSI or carpal tunnel
(08:00:50 PM) komputes: ajamison5579: cn't find system-config-display
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(08:00:52 PM) Gadwil: Time to hide away on the BSP camera.
(08:00:53 PM) _Jot_: Nice show, Robbie, Christy and Hillary
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(08:00:57 PM) raptor222: ok goodnight everyone
(08:00:59 PM) warcow105: RobbieF, hey hey hey...i missed 30 min...give it to me now!!!!
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(08:01:01 PM) warcow105: lol
(08:01:04 PM) Christy: thanks jot
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(08:01:06 PM) raptor222: quit
(08:01:07 PM) GoodGuy: night raptor222
(08:01:10 PM) Minotisok: Later and have a good one!
(08:01:11 PM) agamotto: Just remember - wrists UP!
(08:01:11 PM) Hillary: Thank ya kindly Jot!
(08:01:13 PM) coskibum: Good Night all
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(08:01:17 PM) ajamison5579: komputes one sec the package name changed i bet it is there though
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(08:01:18 PM) Christy: night everyone!
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(08:01:23 PM) ajamison5579: let me find it
(08:01:25 PM) GoodGuy: Night coskibum
(08:01:25 PM) Gadwil: Great show all, and RobbieF, I only heard of about 2 or 3 crashes today. :)
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