Conversation with #category5
(10:48:13 PM) The topic for #category5 is: www.Category5.TV - on this week's episode, Bekah Ferguson (Robbie's [ahem] gorgeous wife) will be co-hosting a special episode about Seesmic, Twitter, and the surrounding technology.
(06:59:29 PM) ***agamotto bows
(06:59:31 PM) agamotto: Hallo all
(06:59:32 PM) onomou [n=40325579@popey.com] entered the room.
(06:59:51 PM) _Jot_: hello agamotto
(06:59:58 PM) _jac_: unless you have your connection 'live' Ubuntu will always assume that you maybe someone outside the network trying crash in
(07:00:15 PM) _jac_: agamotto!
(07:00:19 PM) LowercaseSpace: hello everyone
(07:00:26 PM) _Jot_: hi Lowercase
(07:00:29 PM) Fish60: _jac_... so you are saying there is no way to change it?
(07:00:42 PM) Zabadda: JUST made it :P
(07:00:45 PM) underdog512: here ya go fish, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1210613
(07:00:59 PM) Fish60: thanks ud
(07:01:06 PM) agamotto: Coolies!
(07:01:07 PM) underdog512: no prob
(07:01:08 PM) _jac_: Fish, not to my knowledge, but that don't mean anything
(07:01:16 PM) agamotto: XrandR is working, along with the audio.... nice....
(07:01:27 PM) agamotto: My main box is now completely functional!
(07:01:52 PM) _jac_: heya Zavadda
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(07:02:59 PM) _jac_: what Mods?
(07:03:48 PM) ***_jac_ kicks JohnRoberts shins
(07:03:50 PM) agamotto: Coolies, I will be able to REALLY test out Skype that way!!!!
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(07:04:21 PM) _Jot_: I'll probably get skype just for this :)
(07:04:47 PM) _Jot_: the lighting is a lot better this show
(07:04:49 PM) agamotto: I just can't get into Twitter... I don't have any real use for it
(07:05:04 PM) agamotto: I barely understand why my friend think Facebook is great...
(07:05:09 PM) Guest_5211: Hiya dudes
(07:05:10 PM) agamotto: friends, that should be
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(07:05:17 PM) ***agamotto starts pouring the bevys
(07:05:20 PM) _jac_: I always thought twitter was like stalking folks
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(07:05:32 PM) ***agamotto popcorn will be done in about 3 minutes
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(07:05:55 PM) underdog512: i don't really see the point
(07:06:10 PM) agamotto: Bekah: Just enjoy that UV tan!
(07:06:12 PM) _Jot_: I don't like that they share eveyrthing with everybody they know, including direct marketing and so on
(07:06:20 PM) dav101: hi everyone
(07:06:27 PM) _jac_: hope ya got butter and salt for that popcorn agamotto
(07:06:30 PM) _Jot_: agamotto, it is not a live show, and they are on holiday so they aren't currently watching :)
(07:06:33 PM) underdog512: hi dav
(07:07:01 PM) _jac_: howdy dan101
(07:07:06 PM) agamotto: Aww, I forgot
(07:07:09 PM) _Jot_: i dav
(07:07:09 PM) _jac_: er dav1021
(07:07:20 PM) _jac_: galdurn it
(07:07:26 PM) _jac_: I meant dav101
(07:07:30 PM) agamotto: Is that why the sound is somewhat muffled? Or is it just me?
(07:07:36 PM) _jac_: Yeah, I can tyoe again!
(07:07:46 PM) onomou: a liitle bit muffled to me also...
(07:07:47 PM) _Jot_: if it isn't the lights, it is the sound :)
(07:07:48 PM) dav101: Its my Birthday today
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(07:07:54 PM) _Jot_: difficult to type with pizza all over the keyboard
(07:07:56 PM) underdog512: it does seem odd
(07:07:57 PM) _Jot_: happy birthday dav
(07:08:19 PM) linuxwebfly: Happy Birthday dav101
(07:08:24 PM) dav101: thanx im 30
(07:08:26 PM) thiebaude: this is cool watching this in windows media player 10
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(07:08:34 PM) _jac_: dave are you 101 today?
(07:08:39 PM) agamotto: I just wanted to make sure it isn't my setup... I finally took some time aside, and updated the main box to 9.04
(07:08:41 PM) Krystal: hi Robbie and bekah! :D
(07:08:46 PM) agamotto: So far, so good
(07:09:04 PM) thiebaude: hi everyone, again
(07:09:04 PM) _jac_: Uh, Krystal, the show is pre-recorded
(07:09:15 PM) Krystal: robbie is still tehre :D
(07:09:15 PM) _Jot_: hi Krystal, welcome, it is a prerecorded show since Robbie and the family are on holiday
(07:09:18 PM) dav101: <_jac_> No thats just my tag!
(07:09:21 PM) underdog512: thiebaude, how are you watching in MP10?
(07:09:22 PM) Krystal: lol
(07:09:27 PM) Krystal: :( damn robbie!
(07:09:50 PM) thiebaude: i think wiki.category5.tv
(07:09:58 PM) _Jot_: you can still email him though :) and this isn't a regular thing
(07:10:05 PM) thiebaude: i had to download the mp4 codec for it
(07:10:17 PM) agamotto: theibaude: congrats
(07:10:20 PM) dav101: Not live 2night then. Thats a first
(07:10:26 PM) thiebaude: agamotto, its soo clear
(07:10:33 PM) _jac_: 48 viewers watching the recorded show tonight
(07:10:35 PM) _Jot_: not the very first, but very rare :)
(07:10:40 PM) agamotto: Visuals all nice and crispy?
(07:10:59 PM) thiebaude: agamotto, this is the way if wish it were for all videos
(07:11:00 PM) agamotto: I was going to go to a new bar in the area with some friends, but they all wimped out on me.
(07:11:03 PM) dav101: Windows 7 rocks
(07:11:15 PM) underdog512: not like ubuntu RC where you just upgrade!
(07:11:21 PM) onomou: yeah looks goo here
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(07:11:25 PM) underdog512: for FREE
(07:11:37 PM) agamotto: Mum wants to switch to a laptop, and I figure that we will get one when Win 7 comes with the machines this fall
(07:12:05 PM) _Jot_: if you are in an area that supports this, you can buy one now that has vista and you get a free upgrade-coupon
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(07:12:24 PM) onomou: Funny thing about Windows 7 is that last I checked you will need to re-install the full version when it comes out. Looks good though.
(07:12:26 PM) Gadwil: Best Buy will ship you the CD to install it yourself.
(07:12:31 PM) dav101: <agamotto> If u buy now u should b able to get a free upgrade from vista to 7
(07:12:35 PM) agamotto: Yah, but why bother with Vista at all, if waiting a month or so spares her that experience?
(07:12:58 PM) Gadwil: There is a way to upgrade from RC and Beta but it is a hack to make it look like an older version of Windows.
(07:13:00 PM) agamotto: Best Buy? Uh... no.... my money doesn't get spent there
(07:13:10 PM) thiebaude: i wish i had the memory for windows 7 or i would dual boot
(07:13:19 PM) agamotto: I will wait for shipping before I go into that den of liars and thieves
(07:13:31 PM) Gadwil: well then most manufactures if you buy directly may charge for it. a "nominal" fee they say. depends on who though.
(07:13:41 PM) _Jot_: agamotto, it won't expire, you just will be able to install win7 if you want :)
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(07:13:53 PM) _Jot_: but yeah, why bother really with vista
(07:13:55 PM) _jac_: windows 7 upgrade will be $100US, Apple's up grade will be $20, Ubuntu and other Linux distro, priceless ;-)
(07:13:56 PM) agamotto: How can they charge extra for the OS they will be installing on the machine?
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(07:14:42 PM) agamotto: You don't understand... we are dealing with a 60yr old who won't deal with anything that isn't there when she turns it on.
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(07:15:00 PM) Gadwil: They will send you the upgrade CD to do it yourself. Microsoft is offering it for free, but it is ultimately it is up to the OEM on what goes with the upgrade.
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(07:15:08 PM) _Jot_: that is probably a safe thing, make sure it has proper antivirus installed before you hand it to her, and not the mcafee or norton crap :)
(07:15:09 PM) agamotto: If it doesn't come with Win7 'in it now.' she won't buy.
(07:15:27 PM) onomou: Too bad we don't get the quality for how much Windows costs...
(07:15:30 PM) Gadwil: Install the new Microsoft Security Essentials, it is super clean.
(07:15:46 PM) _jac_: agamotto, you Mom is 60? Is she cute, is she interested in older fools like me? ;-)
(07:15:47 PM) dav101: AVG for anti virus
(07:15:56 PM) underdog512: how about just install Ubuntu
(07:16:01 PM) underdog512: that will fix it
(07:16:03 PM) underdog512: lol
(07:16:06 PM) Gadwil: AVG is more confusing than it needs to be, MSE is super basic.
(07:16:07 PM) agamotto: I keep trying to get her to break the Win curse, but for some reason, she is addicted to M$ Office
(07:16:11 PM) onomou: sure will
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(07:16:24 PM) _Jot_: microsoft already has made agreements when they started offering such security software that they won't mark spyware and other malware of companies they make deals with, I would never trust them
(07:16:29 PM) agamotto: Brent actually cares about his fans, that is why.... so does LeVar
(07:16:50 PM) agamotto: I cried just because of how bad Nemesis was.....
(07:16:50 PM) dav101: <Gadwil> not tryed MSE
(07:17:03 PM) albataylor: Has Bekah tried Lulu for publishing her books?
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(07:17:08 PM) Gadwil: I use MSE on my Win7 machine, and tested it on Vista.
(07:17:17 PM) _jac_: a moment of silence with a chuckle
(07:17:21 PM) agamotto: _jac_, No, she is happily married - most of the time :)
(07:17:22 PM) _Jot_: albataylor, it is a precorded show, but feel free to email and ask them for the next show
(07:17:40 PM) albataylor: oh really?
(07:17:44 PM) _jac_: agamotto, and your point is? ;-)
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(07:17:56 PM) _Jot_: albataylor, Robbie and family are on a well-deserved holiday
(07:17:56 PM) albataylor: I feel like a tard
(07:18:00 PM) agamotto: Dad surprised me.... he announced this weekend that when he leaves the DoD in October, he will quit using Windows
(07:18:03 PM) underdog512: honest question. what does MS do that Open Office does not.
(07:18:09 PM) mode (+o warcow105 ) by ChanServ
(07:18:17 PM) _Jot_: welcome warcow
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(07:18:24 PM) warcow105: damn, late to the party, what i miss
(07:18:24 PM) _jac_: warcow!
(07:18:38 PM) _Jot_: you're missing a prerecorded show, warcow
(07:18:38 PM) albataylor: not as fun not live :(
(07:18:43 PM) _jac_: Pizza and beer warcow
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(07:18:54 PM) agamotto: underdog512, I have no idea, save for the boatloads of clipart and templates?
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(07:19:09 PM) Gadwil: That is a very good point underdog. The only difference I can think of fast is the UI, (I think), is better in Office 2007.
(07:19:11 PM) agamotto: The "ribbon' sure pisses her off, but she still uses it
(07:19:18 PM) _Jot_: I think you can download all the templates for open office somewhere probably
(07:19:29 PM) dav101: <underdog512> MS office costs money THATS WHAT IT DOES DIFFERENT! lol
(07:19:31 PM) Gadwil: I love the Ribbon. It is so much easier.
(07:19:36 PM) underdog512: can't you load clip art into Open Office?
(07:19:49 PM) _jac_: yes
(07:19:55 PM) _Jot_: I am sure you can load clipart too, but not the exact same because I'm sure it is copyrighted :)
(07:20:04 PM) _Jot_: if you have office, I am sure you could though
(07:20:24 PM) underdog512: Thats what I thought. just checking my knowlege
(07:20:44 PM) agamotto: _Jot_, Yah, I put most everything I could find in OO for her, but she still insisted on paying for M$ Office....
(07:21:05 PM) Gadwil: Some people just don't like change.
(07:21:12 PM) _jac_: who is ashton and opera?
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(07:21:16 PM) agamotto: _Jot_, There is plenty of free, and open, clipart for OO
(07:21:29 PM) _Jot_: oprah probably is oprah winfrey, I don't know this ashton
(07:21:49 PM) dav101: I like the look of MS Ofice 2010
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(07:21:58 PM) underdog512: agamotto, why did she want MS office sooo bad
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(07:22:05 PM) agamotto: Ashton Kutcher... best know for being married to Demi Moore, and apparently looking good in his undies
(07:22:17 PM) Gadwil: dav have you downloaded the leaked Tech Preview of 2010?
(07:22:20 PM) Zabadda: he is damn funny tho
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(07:22:46 PM) agamotto: underdog512, I think because she has been using it for 20 years.... 2007 irritates her, but she won't go back to the older version.
(07:22:49 PM) _jac_: I remember Demi, but not ashton
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(07:23:10 PM) niknak_: i found open office slow to launch in XP and version 3.0 seems a bit buggy
(07:23:24 PM) underdog512: thats seem ilogical
(07:23:34 PM) agamotto: 3.0 was disappointing
(07:24:10 PM) _jac_: I gotta admit, I am using Google Doc's more and more
(07:24:11 PM) agamotto: underdog512, Yah, go figure.... I even offered to get her one of the Dummies books on 2007... no bite
(07:24:16 PM) Gadwil: Are there any ways to get the Ribbon Interface look in Open Office?
(07:24:19 PM) niknak_: there is an issue i had where it keeps crashing when you print a file i had been using for months
(07:24:46 PM) agamotto: Egad, I hope not. I love the ability to turn most of the icons into words I actually understand
(07:24:57 PM) dav101: Im on twitter @craigdavison
(07:25:00 PM) niknak_: issues like these are going to stop people adopting free software
(07:25:24 PM) agamotto: niknak_, Software, period.
(07:25:53 PM) agamotto: I still use a variant of Q&A on Win machines because I can't stand most other word processors and such
(07:26:09 PM) _jac_: niknak, not true, folks wil use wha tis best an what is supported well. It may take time, but open software will CHANGE THE WORLD! ;-)
(07:26:27 PM) agamotto: I am so used to key combos and macros, that having to reach for icons and buttons on screen really gets to me
(07:27:08 PM) niknak_: jac fair enough for folk interested in technology, but my parents would want stuff just to work
(07:27:16 PM) agamotto: Exactly
(07:27:39 PM) agamotto: As I am getting older, I have no patience for software that doesn't just do what I want, when I want.
(07:27:55 PM) agamotto: I have a 10 year old printer for that reason
(07:27:56 PM) _jac_: If we are so short sided to think that apple and microsoft will always be the sthandard OS's, well, hope their de sotto still runs ;-)
(07:28:11 PM) Cory`: Hey RobbieF :D
(07:28:22 PM) agamotto: I INSIST on having control buttons and an LCD on my printers that ACTUALLY tell me what is going on.
(07:28:30 PM) dav101: <niknak_> If they only need simple document text use Abi word
(07:28:30 PM) _Jot_: hi Cory, welcome, Robbie currently isn't here, you are watching a prerecorded show since he and the family went on holiday
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(07:28:45 PM) Cory`: _jac_ OH! ok :)
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(07:29:02 PM) agamotto: dav101, Abiword is what I use most of the time under Ubuntu.
(07:29:07 PM) _jac_: you are most welcome Cory ;-) lol _Jot_
(07:29:15 PM) Cory`: :)
(07:29:38 PM) LowercaseSpace: there is a prototype for the openoffice user interface that looks a little like office 2007 at http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/08/openoffice-prototype-user-interface.html
(07:29:41 PM) niknak_: it frustrates me that there is no decent way to sync my iphone in ubuntu. even though it is evil and proprietary... why should i be able to use one? it would be a good handset otherwise
(07:29:43 PM) dav101: agamotto> me 2
(07:30:20 PM) _Jot_: niknak, why not buy any other phone that will be cheaper, have more storage, and more possibilities for a less cost
(07:30:38 PM) _jac_: niknak, blame apple for using software that is they want to control
(07:30:44 PM) agamotto: I have little use for an 'office suite' these days, but I keep OO around for those occasions when someone wants my help with something 'office.'
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(07:30:58 PM) agamotto: What is the purpose of Adobe AIR?
(07:31:17 PM) agamotto: Is it a Nike tie-in?
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(07:31:24 PM) _jac_: agamotto, it is for air heads? ;-)
(07:31:32 PM) underdog5121: brb my peeps
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(07:31:40 PM) agamotto: Nah, blame the people who pay Amazon and Apple, among others, to be abused.
(07:31:44 PM) niknak_: jac_ it's the whole apple thing that pisses me off the iphone is the phone i want to use but they use their market share to shut out the platforms they dont want to support
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(07:32:14 PM) agamotto: Why do you want a phone where Apple decides what softs you can have on it?
(07:32:17 PM) underdog5121: thats better
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(07:32:24 PM) agamotto: It isn't a great phone
(07:32:25 PM) niknak_: i see linux as one of apples biggest threats, you can see why there wont support it
(07:32:27 PM) _Jot_: air is like the microsoft web-interface-thingy
(07:32:42 PM) agamotto: Ahhh, so AIR is something like Mono?
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(07:32:57 PM) _Jot_: not like mono, but that other big thing, I forgot the name, I can't find it anywhere
(07:33:05 PM) agamotto: .NET?
(07:33:12 PM) LowercaseSpace: silverlight?
(07:33:27 PM) agamotto: Another media plug-in?
(07:33:33 PM) _Jot_: yeah, silverlight
(07:33:43 PM) underdog5121: I tried using the hybrid chat from the website and its too slow
(07:33:53 PM) underdog5121: had to switch to pidgin
(07:34:00 PM) dav101: Twiter is the the new place for spam coz email has been done 2 death
(07:34:00 PM) agamotto: underdog5121, Heavy on the bandwidth for both
(07:34:06 PM) niknak_: the ITV website in the uk uses silverlight. very annoying
(07:34:18 PM) agamotto: dav101, I don't get that much spam... my filters are very good
(07:34:40 PM) dav101: <niknak_> r u in UK?
(07:34:58 PM) niknak_: edinburgh, scotland
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(07:35:12 PM) _jac_: dav101, not just tweeter, wikis and even flickr have been seeing an increase of spammers
(07:35:14 PM) underdog5121: yea I figured
(07:35:22 PM) agamotto: Seesmic, Twitter, Facebook... who wastes their time keeping up with all of this?
(07:35:27 PM) underdog5121: works find seperatly
(07:35:34 PM) dav101: <niknak_> cool im in Oxford
(07:35:39 PM) deeminter: Just started watching the show, just what is twitter all about, and do you need a device other than a PC to use it??
(07:35:42 PM) underdog5121: I like facebook
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(07:36:10 PM) _Jot_: deeminter, you don't need another device, but it is build to use from mobile phones, that is where the character-limit comes from
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(07:36:32 PM) _Jot_: by the way, this is a prerecorded show, Robbie and the family are on holiday
(07:36:46 PM) warcow105: deeminter, it is a social networking site, you post updates to it and people that subscribe to your feed can see your updates
(07:37:00 PM) agamotto: I know that I will be hiding indoors on Saturday... it is supposed to be ~97F.
(07:37:01 PM) dav101: I dont mind intelagent spam!
(07:37:27 PM) _Jot_: I would never sign up to anything like twitter and such, because you do not have any privacy, since they record and sell everything, so you can never complain about unsolicited email, since it could be they got your details from one of such sites
(07:37:31 PM) ***agamotto shrugs
(07:37:42 PM) agamotto: I guess I am just not social enough to need all of these things
(07:37:59 PM) warcow105: lol
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(07:38:21 PM) agamotto: _Jot_: I do Facebook, but I turned on just about all of the privacy features
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(07:38:51 PM) _jac_: wb dav
(07:38:53 PM) _Jot_: agamotto, you can't, it is in their privacy-policy, like google, hotmail, etc, everything you use such sites for, becomes their property
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(07:39:34 PM) agamotto: I understand that, but I turned on everything that I could... and I don't post anything on Facebook that I wouldn't be comfortable with Grandma reading
(07:39:43 PM) dav101: <_jac_> ?
(07:39:44 PM) underdog5121: Is becca (i know thats not how you spell her name) going to be a permanent co-host
(07:39:47 PM) underdog5121: ?
(07:39:48 PM) blue0488: I am having a problem with the feed I can watch past episodes but not live
(07:40:01 PM) agamotto: I tend to not use Google much these days.... prefer Dogpile
(07:40:08 PM) _Jot_: underdog, she makes a good one, so who knows, but I doubt it, this is the first time though so who knows
(07:40:11 PM) _jac_: I started my own website before bloggin became popular and found out that 'social' sites are more of a nusiance then of help, imho
(07:40:27 PM) underdog5121: I hope she does
(07:40:28 PM) niknak_: i would bet many employers check out potential employee's on social networks. you want to be carful what you post!!
(07:40:38 PM) underdog5121: shes good
(07:40:53 PM) _Jot_: I think they make a good couple :)
(07:41:01 PM) underdog5121: niknak, that is very true
(07:41:14 PM) dav101: she is pritty
(07:41:16 PM) agamotto: That's ok... I don't use my real name... and I don't put on anything that I wouldn't be comfortable sharing with Grandma
(07:41:34 PM) agamotto: I have very few 'friends,' and I don't share much with them
(07:42:09 PM) niknak_: i have heard it's pretty heavily discouraged for professions like teachers
(07:42:10 PM) GoodGuy: They do niknak_ In the USA anyway
(07:42:31 PM) _jac_: Heya GoodGuy, didn't see ya sneak in, howdy
(07:42:32 PM) agamotto: Employers try to do whatever they can in the US
(07:42:54 PM) _Jot_: I think it can be okay as long as you remember to tell only things you would tell to a complete stranger who would use it against you
(07:43:03 PM) agamotto: I know of a few potential employers who called me to complain that they need my permission to get into my financial data....
(07:43:04 PM) niknak_: i know a few uk employers do too.
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(07:43:43 PM) agamotto: I have it set up with the credit agencies that nothing goes out without a written letter from me, giving permission.
(07:43:45 PM) G_dog: hi becky
(07:44:07 PM) agamotto: That way, I know which employers are actually trying to dig
(07:44:10 PM) _Jot_: hi G_dog, it's prerecorded, Robbie and the family are on holiday
(07:44:22 PM) dav101: if that pen twitter thing is not real, it should be!
(07:44:34 PM) G_dog: oh ok
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(07:45:00 PM) underdog5121: is this Adobe Air the next Java?
(07:45:06 PM) agamotto: It makes some financial stuff slow, but I think the delay is worth it for the security
(07:45:14 PM) agamotto: underdog5121, I have no idea
(07:45:28 PM) warcow105: underdog5121, its just more adobe trying to own the internet lol
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(07:45:51 PM) underdog5121: well its a good idea
(07:45:53 PM) agamotto: I personally, would love to get rid of Flash
(07:45:58 PM) GoodGuy: Adobe Air is Adobe's Silverlight isnt it?
(07:46:02 PM) warcow105: same here
(07:46:05 PM) agamotto: Apparently
(07:46:05 PM) _jac_: lol, did you all hear that Leo Laporte is the prez of the net?
(07:46:15 PM) underdog5121: i like interoperability
(07:46:18 PM) ***agamotto chuckles
(07:46:21 PM) _Jot_: nobody bought my portion of the net from me, so he isn't the prez of me
(07:46:23 PM) agamotto: We could do a lot worse than Leo
(07:46:25 PM) warcow105: i like open standards
(07:46:31 PM) GoodGuy: Profound quote.. That leaves me out
(07:47:18 PM) Guest_6901: hi guys
(07:47:24 PM) warcow105: hi guest
(07:47:38 PM) _Jot_: hello guest
(07:47:38 PM) niknak_: warcow105 websites that force you to use IE they suck! no opens standards there
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(07:47:41 PM) _jac_: guest, always start with gals first ;-)
(07:47:46 PM) GoodGuy: I sort of adore Veronica Belmont.. I followed her on Twitter for a day and quit
(07:47:47 PM) warcow105: type "/nick yournick" to set ur name
(07:47:52 PM) GoodGuy: Boring imho
(07:47:57 PM) agamotto: I am so glad I don't use Twitter... the conversation they are having is interesting, but they are pretty much highlighting what I don't like about social portals.
(07:48:03 PM) Guest_6901: Is that Robbie' wife?
(07:48:11 PM) _Jot_: Guest, yes, it is
(07:48:14 PM) GoodGuy: No its a cohost of Tekzilla
(07:48:24 PM) _Jot_: You are watching a prerecorded show though, Robbie and family are on a well-deserved holiday
(07:48:25 PM) ***agamotto chuckles
(07:48:28 PM) warcow105: agamotto, yeah twitter is not for me either
(07:48:32 PM) _jac_: yes guest, that is Bekah
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(07:48:33 PM) GoodGuy: Veronica.. not todays cohost.. thats RobbieF's wife
(07:48:42 PM) agamotto: Kids? Who do you think twitter was created for?
(07:49:00 PM) agamotto: Hell, have you seen the average mobile bill for a teen/tween?
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(07:49:04 PM) GoodGuy: Go on Yahoo Messenger chat.. Diabetic room is half sex bots
(07:49:13 PM) agamotto: ewwww
(07:49:17 PM) warcow105: haha thats horrible
(07:49:17 PM) GoodGuy: I get tired of ignoring them and just leave
(07:49:19 PM) _jac_: agamotto, yes, I have ;-)
(07:49:27 PM) Guest_6901: that's why the audio is not good today?
(07:49:36 PM) GoodGuy: You can usually tell by most have webcams
(07:49:38 PM) agamotto: Escandala de sexo, en vivo en Twitter!
(07:49:44 PM) Zabadda: what was the terminal code to run adobe AIR from the desktop?
(07:49:49 PM) _Jot_: Guest, at least the lighting is better this show :)
(07:49:57 PM) agamotto: Escandalo de sexo, en vivo en Twitter! (that should be)
(07:50:02 PM) GoodGuy: Lighting is good
(07:50:12 PM) GoodGuy: Especially on the screen images
(07:50:18 PM) agamotto: Zabbada: I missed it
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(07:50:25 PM) blue0488: I am having a problem getting the show to work
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(07:50:35 PM) agamotto: blue0488, Que pasa?
(07:50:43 PM) Zabadda: ok how do i run a file from the desktop to run
(07:50:43 PM) GoodGuy: How so blue0488?
(07:50:45 PM) _Jot_: blue, you can try watching it later or downloading it as well
(07:50:56 PM) _jac_: que problema, you mean agamotto?
(07:51:01 PM) agamotto: Oooohhh, a cottage... I wonder if it a country estate, like Hyacinth and Richard's?
(07:51:10 PM) blue0488: will it is just showing loading
(07:51:16 PM) agamotto: _jac_, If you want to be picky
(07:51:37 PM) _jac_: ouch ;-)
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(07:51:44 PM) _Jot_: zabadda, on ubuntu: http://www.thespinningdonut.com/how-to-run-adobe-air-applications-on-ubuntu-linux/
(07:51:46 PM) agamotto: I am often criticized locally for speaking Spanish 'too formally."
(07:51:58 PM) Zabadda: cheers jot
(07:52:19 PM) blue0488: I can watch old owns but not the live
(07:52:34 PM) blue0488: ones*
(07:52:39 PM) agamotto: clicking on the watch live button does what for you?
(07:52:49 PM) _jac_: blue0488, are you using the chat and chat off of the website?
(07:53:02 PM) _jac_: er Video and chat
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(07:53:18 PM) blue0488: it brings it up but all I get is loading
(07:53:19 PM) agamotto: What is So You Can Dance?
(07:53:30 PM) underdog5121: its a show
(07:53:32 PM) GoodGuy: Its a reality show agamotto
(07:53:38 PM) Abyssinian: Okay
(07:53:41 PM) agamotto: blue0488, You most likely have to unblock ustream to let the video in
(07:53:41 PM) blue0488: yeah chat off the site
(07:53:50 PM) GoodGuy: Dancing Contest
(07:53:50 PM) underdog5121: American Idol for dancing
(07:53:51 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy, Ahhh, no wonder I don't know of it
(07:53:51 PM) _Jot_: blue, does it work if you go to http://www.ustream.tv/channel/28874 ?
(07:53:52 PM) Abyssinian: managed to join you guys
(07:54:02 PM) Abyssinian: through Pidgin
(07:54:10 PM) _Jot_: welcome, Abyssinian
(07:54:15 PM) agamotto: Greetings, Egyptian kitty
(07:54:19 PM) Abyssinian: I was using the sucky browser for chat
(07:54:22 PM) ***agamotto chuckles
(07:54:30 PM) Abyssinian: Thanx
(07:54:31 PM) _jac_: blue0488, do you have bandwidth over 500Kbs?
(07:54:33 PM) _Jot_: yeah, well, IE is like that sometimes :)
(07:54:38 PM) Abyssinian: no
(07:54:49 PM) Abyssinian: Pidgin fwn
(07:54:54 PM) blue0488: internet 1.5mb
(07:54:55 PM) GoodGuy: ROBBIEF: I would love The Meat on the VirtualBox series
(07:55:07 PM) Abyssinian: light Internet
(07:55:11 PM) _Jot_: GoodGuy, it is a prerecorded show, but you can email him your thoughts
(07:55:15 PM) blue0488: and it doesn't show up on that site
(07:55:17 PM) agamotto: blue0488, Check to see if your adblocker or NoScript is set to block Ustream
(07:55:25 PM) GoodGuy: Good idea _Jot_
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(07:55:37 PM) dav101: RT<GoodGuy> ROBBIEF: I would love The Meat on the VirtualBox series
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(07:56:19 PM) GoodGuy: I requested the series and it was terrific.. Just hoping it would reach The Meat
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(07:56:40 PM) Abyssinian: so why the audio is not good today?
(07:56:48 PM) _jac_: I bet that viewers donation did not go to Robbie's shirt tonight! ;-)
(07:56:53 PM) Abyssinian: tonight
(07:56:57 PM) GoodGuy: It has a vibration today Abyssinian
(07:57:01 PM) agamotto: Abyssinian, something to do with it being recorded
(07:57:10 PM) agamotto: ahahhh
(07:57:15 PM) _Jot_: it also has the same on the original file
(07:57:18 PM) dav101: lol
(07:57:19 PM) blue0488: adblock disabled
(07:57:28 PM) agamotto: It could be a lot worse, it could be a Tommy Pullmyfinger shirt
(07:57:38 PM) Abyssinian: His wife is pretty
(07:57:47 PM) agamotto: blue0488, Do you have NoScript?
(07:57:47 PM) GoodGuy: The Meat is a major feature of Category 5.. Its something I can point new people to
(07:57:53 PM) _jac_: lol agamotto
(07:57:59 PM) _Jot_: I hear she is married though, so we don't stand a chance
(07:58:05 PM) blue0488: I don't know
(07:58:09 PM) GoodGuy: lol _Jot_
(07:58:19 PM) agamotto: I never have understood the point of paying to have someone's advertizing on your clothes
(07:58:23 PM) Abyssinian: she's Robbie's wife - right?
(07:58:29 PM) agamotto: correct
(07:58:29 PM) njsf: Guys, have a good night. Since this is a recorded show I opted for the "HD" version on Miro. And will give Robbie feedback latter :D
(07:58:30 PM) dav101: they look good together
(07:58:32 PM) GoodGuy: Yes Abyssinian
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(07:59:04 PM) _jac_: blue0488, what media palyer are you using, or are you trying the feed straight off of Ustream?
(07:59:10 PM) Abyssinian: summer vacation
(07:59:20 PM) _Jot_: agamotto, you could cut the advertising off, but then you get these strange-coloured patches showing underneath
(07:59:29 PM) Abyssinian: The weather is getting warmer here in Ontario
(07:59:37 PM) blue0488: off of category5
(07:59:39 PM) warcow105: i take it that that little message on screen about the battery dying means his mic?
(07:59:42 PM) GoodGuy: Its hot here in Michigan
(07:59:43 PM) _jac_: adios njsf
(07:59:44 PM) agamotto: Nah, I just buy clothes from companies that don't cover me in logos
(07:59:56 PM) _Jot_: warcow, I think so
(07:59:56 PM) Abyssinian: I was in Lansing Michigan
(08:00:00 PM) Abyssinian: for 6 years
(08:00:04 PM) agamotto: I used to buy Levi's until they moved jobs out of the US....
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(08:00:16 PM) _jac_: blue0488, you do have falsh installed?
(08:00:18 PM) warcow105: yeah...his mic, mic head is losing bias, op amps are dying too lol
(08:00:21 PM) underdog5121: WOW! A whole show about Twitter
(08:00:29 PM) blue0488: yeah
(08:00:33 PM) underdog5121: still prolly not going to use it
(08:00:43 PM) dav101: Another cat5 in the bag
(08:00:43 PM) _jac_: hmm, my audio has been good until now
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(08:00:46 PM) Abyssinian: GoodGuy where in Michigan are u?
(08:00:46 PM) agamotto: underdog5121, Yep, informative, even if I don't plan on using it
(08:00:49 PM) linuxwebfly: It's only 82 here, GoodGuy?
(08:00:54 PM) GoodGuy: Bekkah for a new cohost :-)
(08:00:55 PM) agamotto: His battery is dying
(08:01:02 PM) GoodGuy: Warren Abyssinian
(08:01:07 PM) linuxwebfly: turn the air on.
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(08:01:14 PM) GoodGuy: I have it on every day
(08:01:31 PM) underdog5121: Did get somthing useful out of the show
(08:01:32 PM) Abyssinian: Warren --- must be a tiny country side
(08:01:32 PM) skeezer: I made it for the last 5 minutes live! Woohoo
(08:01:35 PM) _jac_: GoodGuy, nah Bekah for Host, Robbie as a co host ;-)
(08:01:36 PM) GoodGuy: Had to take my wife to the hospital and doctors last few days
(08:01:36 PM) agamotto: 82 currently here, but Saturday looks to be a scorcher... The whole of July under 90, now in August, it seems we will make up for it
(08:01:40 PM) underdog5121: I like this Adobe air thing
(08:01:41 PM) dav101: His battery is dying in the mic I asume?
(08:01:43 PM) Abyssinian: never heard of it
(08:01:47 PM) _Jot_: dav, yep
(08:01:50 PM) GoodGuy: Its the 3rd largest city in Michigan
(08:01:56 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy, Nothing too serious, I hope
(08:01:59 PM) _jac_: GoodGuy, everything okay?
(08:02:00 PM) GoodGuy: Just north of Detroit
(08:02:10 PM) GoodGuy: Yes... Just some pain
(08:02:16 PM) Abyssinian: No -- I know Flint, Ann Arbor, Detroit, Lansing
(08:02:20 PM) Abyssinian: Kalamazoo
(08:02:23 PM) _Jot_: skeezer, it isn't live, sorry, it is a prerecorded show, Robbie and family are on holiday
(08:02:25 PM) Abyssinian: Benton
(08:02:28 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy, Neuralgia stuff again?
(08:02:36 PM) dav101: L8ER DUDES
(08:02:37 PM) GoodGuy: Warren is larger than all but Flint iirc
(08:02:39 PM) Abyssinian: etc --- but Warren???
(08:02:41 PM) _jac_: Prayers going out to GoddGuys wife
(08:02:42 PM) underdog5121: I thought we were already past 100?
(08:02:45 PM) skeezer: Jot! You spoiled my fun :-(
(08:02:47 PM) warcow105: see ya dav101
(08:02:51 PM) Abyssinian: >:o
(08:02:54 PM) GoodGuy: Thank you.. she should be ok
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(08:03:15 PM) _Jot_: skeezer, the show still is great, especially with this co-host for the first time :)
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