Conversation with #category5

(04:42:32 PM) mode (+o RobbieF ) by ChanServ
(04:42:45 PM) mode (+o Christy ) by RobbieF
(04:44:13 PM) RobbieF has changed the topic to: www.Category5.TV - Beginning our series on affordable redundant storage. Help Robbie choose which route to take in this exciting quest for the ultimate solution. Featuring talks about RAID, External Hard Drives, FreeNAS, unRAID, Drobo, and more! Don't miss the live show - www.Category5.TV
(06:59:25 PM) linuxwebfly: And the magic
(06:59:25 PM) munzy: haven't been in live chat for awhile. Nice to see the same faces.
(06:59:28 PM) stickman: showtime!
(06:59:40 PM) stickman: ha jac
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(06:59:47 PM) jac: munzy wb
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(06:59:55 PM) linuxwebfly: Main no pic RobbieF?
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(07:00:26 PM) _Jot_: picture is working for me, rolling titles right now
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(07:00:34 PM) linuxwebfly: It started
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(07:00:43 PM) munzy: wb?
(07:00:49 PM) linuxwebfly: Welcome back
(07:00:52 PM) Krystal: hi! :D
(07:00:55 PM) munzy: thxs
(07:00:56 PM) _Jot_: hi Robbie and Christy again, doing good
(07:01:02 PM) jac: Christy, make a face now! ;-)
(07:01:22 PM) JohnRobe1t: hi
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(07:01:27 PM) ZenLord: Wiki on chisty
(07:01:30 PM) linuxwebfly: :P
(07:01:31 PM) munzy: carrie looks different
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(07:01:41 PM) thiebaude: hi robbie
(07:01:43 PM) ajamison5579: hey guys
(07:01:51 PM) JohnRobe1t: is it me, or is the colour temperature too 'cold'
(07:01:51 PM) dav101: Hi
(07:01:52 PM) mahesh2012: hi
(07:01:52 PM) _Jot_: Carrie sounds different too :)
(07:01:52 PM) GoodGuy: Hi ajamison
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(07:02:03 PM) mahesh2012: hi first time
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(07:02:09 PM) GoodGuy: It's cold JohnRobe1t
(07:02:13 PM) xxuriahxx: i hear echo or is it me
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(07:02:18 PM) spankyhorawitz: Spanky is in the house! ;-) Howdy All!
(07:02:18 PM) jac: bit blue, JohnRobert so, yes
(07:02:20 PM) _Jot_: I'd say it is a little better than last week, but still a bit dark
(07:02:21 PM) JohnRobe1t: a bit blue yeah
(07:02:22 PM) GoodGuy: I hear that also
(07:02:32 PM) ryburke is now known as Drumstick
(07:02:32 PM) stickman: JohnRobe1t: still experimenting with the new lights
(07:02:34 PM) gadwil: Yes a lot better than last week, He looked so pale.
(07:02:37 PM) xxuriahxx: yeah...echo echo 1 2 3
(07:02:38 PM) Drumstick: Hi all!!
(07:02:40 PM) munzy: Welcome Christy.
(07:02:40 PM) GoodGuy: a vibration type sound
(07:02:40 PM) JohnRobe1t: cool, I need to reconnect, brb
(07:02:45 PM) _Jot_: do you have the backstage on together with the main-channel? if so, on the backstage, switch to main and mute it, then go back to backstage
(07:02:49 PM) linuxwebfly: Room got change too!
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(07:03:14 PM) JohnRobert: that's better
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(07:03:16 PM) jac: Robbie, the infamous 'walk in the cold' compressor?
(07:03:22 PM) _Jot_: Robbie, you can show the video of you changing everything and ironing!
(07:03:23 PM) GoodGuy: I don't see a background, do you?
(07:03:27 PM) |TheGiant|: dang Comcast
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(07:03:39 PM) Zabadda: very posh
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(07:03:45 PM) stickman: color sure is alot warmer than last week tho
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(07:03:51 PM) ajamison5579: Matthew what is with the | |
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(07:03:57 PM) xxuriahxx: ROBBIE, I hear an echo
(07:04:07 PM) JohnRobert: xxuriahxx: I think that's just you
(07:04:08 PM) |TheGiant|: That's what my client does when my nick is taken
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(07:04:10 PM) Zabadda: you might of clicked another page open
(07:04:13 PM) Joi: First time here. Just installed Ubuntu and then searched for Ubuntu on twitter and saw the Hosts Twiit on about his show starting.
(07:04:18 PM) _Jot_: xxuriahxx, do you have the backstage open?
(07:04:19 PM) xxuriahxx: eh, ok
(07:04:27 PM) _Jot_: welcome Joi
(07:04:30 PM) GoodGuy: Welcome Joi
(07:04:38 PM) linuxwebfly: You may have to Windows open
(07:04:45 PM) Joi: Thanks
(07:04:46 PM) Christy: welcome joi
(07:04:48 PM) jac: Joi, welcome aboard!
(07:05:04 PM) xxuriahxx: eh, ustream was open on the browser..
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(07:05:07 PM) ZenLord: Whats the deal with MS and UBuntu ???
(07:05:13 PM) |TheGiant| is now known as TheGiant
(07:05:28 PM) xxuriahxx: MS is bootleg, UBUNTU is great
(07:05:49 PM) JohnRobert: I think we ought to stop bashing windows
(07:05:59 PM) Zabadda: thats plenty
(07:06:05 PM) JohnRobert: it's not as bad as everyone makes out
(07:06:06 PM) linuxwebfly: Hands clapping
(07:06:09 PM) xxuriahxx: ok, MS is trying to work it out
(07:06:23 PM) gadwil: Windows 7 is far supirior to Vista, I still like Vista though, I have never had a problem with it.
(07:06:32 PM) xxuriahxx: Ubuntu is secure and the community is great and they are always there to help, hows that?
(07:06:33 PM) Judy: Using Windows 7 it is great
(07:06:33 PM) _Jot_: ROBBIE, no excuse! it is 1am here and I am watching, and I am here at 4am often too!
(07:06:43 PM) JohnRobert: put it this way.. I've been using ubuntu,debian etc.. for about 6 years with no windows.. and I've been using win 7 for about a month now as my main os..
(07:06:44 PM) jac: Hmm, I haven't heard anyone bas winders
(07:06:55 PM) JohnRobert: I can safely say ubuntu 9.04 and windows 7 are about on par
(07:07:03 PM) JohnRobert: both have a lot of flaws.
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(07:07:07 PM) ZenLord: Took me a while to install Vista sp2 / unistall took forever / finally works
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(07:07:09 PM) ajamison5579: lol
(07:07:15 PM) GoodGuy: Sounds like you find Win7 good JohnRobert
(07:07:20 PM) JohnRobert: it's alright
(07:07:22 PM) Zabadda: but we don't pay £100 for ubuntu
(07:07:26 PM) thiebaude: i didn't notice any flaws on my 9.04
(07:07:26 PM) ajamison5579: considerign you did not mention what the name of your show was
(07:07:27 PM) gadwil: I can't use Ubuntu 9.04, for some reason it always freezes on me, I am stuck in 8.10 or 9.10 alpha.
(07:07:30 PM) TheGiant: Andrew if you're going to ask about the
(07:07:31 PM) JohnRobert: but seriously, I think it's about as good as ubuntu 9.04
(07:07:33 PM) TheGiant: oops
(07:07:44 PM) TheGiant: the | | around my nick, what's with the 5579 lol
(07:07:46 PM) JohnRobert: there's loads of bugs in both OSes
(07:07:51 PM) JohnRobert: that won't be fixed
(07:07:52 PM) linuxwebfly: I just installed Ultimate Edition 2.2 AMD64 :D Look for it
(07:07:58 PM) xxuriahxx: true but id rather have my whole house linux than windows and I do have my whole house linux
(07:07:58 PM) talibcyg: what do you think of debian 5
(07:08:01 PM) GoodGuy: Has to be better, not as good as since it costs $100+
(07:08:07 PM) Joi: Any good ubuntu/linux sites for newbies to learn from?
(07:08:13 PM) thiebaude: john, that's true
(07:08:14 PM) xxuriahxx: even my router wrt54g - tomato firmware
(07:08:16 PM) JohnRobert: really, what I need is to spend a month rolling my own distro
(07:08:16 PM) ZenLord: Wonders if Win 7 works with Wubi Ubuntu
(07:08:28 PM) JohnRobert: unfortunately I don't have the time
(07:08:33 PM) ajamison5579: that is my bday ajamison was allready registered by a freenode user
(07:08:37 PM) _Jot_: if it doesn't yet, I'm sure it will soon ZenLord
(07:08:44 PM) TheGiant: ah ok that makes sense
(07:08:48 PM) ZenLord: Thks
(07:08:50 PM) xxuriahxx: joi - google ubuntu screencasts
(07:08:51 PM) stickman: ubuntu has a good forum, Joi
(07:08:52 PM) TheGiant: Figured there had to be a reason for it
(07:08:53 PM) jac: 10 stars for Christy!
(07:08:56 PM) GoodGuy: Try PCLinuxOS JohnRobert .. They make remastering easy iirc
(07:08:57 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:08:58 PM) Joi: thank you
(07:09:04 PM) Cory`: oh hi! :D
(07:09:12 PM) JohnRobert: GoodGuy: I'd probably start from scratch
(07:09:15 PM) Wartungssatz2: robbie: Can VNC redirect audio in addition to video ?
(07:09:22 PM) _Jot_: that's a nasty 1 star remark, robbie!
(07:09:22 PM) GoodGuy: Then its harder
(07:09:24 PM) Christy: tanx jac!
(07:09:26 PM) xxuriahxx: http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/
(07:09:29 PM) GoodGuy: Hi RobbieF thank you
(07:09:31 PM) jac: yw Christy
(07:09:34 PM) JohnRobert: hi
(07:09:35 PM) JohnRobert: :)
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(07:09:45 PM) JohnRobert: I have no questions, sorry.
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(07:09:55 PM) ***jac hands JohnRobert a broom, clea away ;-)
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(07:10:04 PM) GoodGuy: ROBBIE: Wartungssatz2 had a question
(07:10:04 PM) _Jot_: brooms for everyone!
(07:10:11 PM) Joi: Thanks a lot xxuriahxx
(07:10:18 PM) xxuriahxx: no problemo
(07:10:22 PM) _Jot_: ROBBIE: Wartungssatz2: robbie: Can VNC redirect audio in addition to video ?
(07:10:30 PM) JohnRobert: it was defaulting to the other sound card
(07:10:32 PM) xxuriahxx: i still go there just to watch the vids
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(07:12:07 PM) JohnRobert: there are ffox extensions to let you do that
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(07:12:18 PM) spankyhorawitz: dwhelper is the helper that I use
(07:12:23 PM) dav101: a
(07:12:27 PM) warcow105: yeah, downloadhelper, it is in firefox addons
(07:12:29 PM) Joi: This segment of the show reminds me of Screensavers back in the day. This is cool.
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(07:12:48 PM) jac: Joi, no sledge hammer yet lol
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(07:12:53 PM) ZenLord: Stop downloading Porn sites
(07:13:04 PM) Joi: haha
(07:13:19 PM) xxuriahxx: does n e 1 use opendns here, its great...
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(07:13:34 PM) albataylor1: opendns is awesome
(07:13:38 PM) ZenLord: get out and meet a real woman
(07:13:41 PM) Cory`: The studio looks dark tonight :(
(07:13:43 PM) dav101: Q&A ROBBIE can you use ubuntu with compiz in the new vertion of virtual box?
(07:13:43 PM) xxuriahxx: yeah...
(07:13:43 PM) JohnRobert: opendns is good, but people miss a fairly critical problem with it
(07:13:45 PM) jagez: blimey does that really work?
(07:13:59 PM) GoodGuy: I used it for awhile xxuriahxx .. I switched back to Comcast servers for no actual reason
(07:14:00 PM) JohnRobert: that is, opendns can keep records of every website and host you've connected to
(07:14:10 PM) GoodGuy: True JohnRobert
(07:14:14 PM) JohnRobert: plus if you have a half decent isp, it'll be slower
(07:14:19 PM) gadwil: dav101, you can if you have 3D acceleration enabled and enough video memory dedicated to it.
(07:14:28 PM) talibcyg: Hey Robbie and Christy video is moving so choppy in 9.04 I have an hp laptop 2.10 amd processor 4 gigs of ram and an ati radeon 3200 video card any suggestions
(07:14:32 PM) JohnRobert: you can run your own dns server if you like :p
(07:14:35 PM) newbeedoo: ROBBIE ? Just saw a item That MS has put out some Linex code,Do you know an
(07:14:41 PM) G_dog: hi RobbieF
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(07:14:47 PM) JohnRobert: access to more ram
(07:15:05 PM) JohnRobert: and perhaps slight increase in performance when doing weird stuff
(07:15:10 PM) thiebaude: newbeedoo, i heard that on the channel9 forums
(07:15:13 PM) dav101: <gadwil> I tryed but I must be doing somthin wrong
(07:15:17 PM) albataylor1: How is that a problem JohnRobert? I love being able to monitor what my websites my son is visiting.
(07:15:30 PM) JohnRobert: heh, sure albataylor1 :)
(07:15:41 PM) G_dog: hi JohnRobert
(07:15:43 PM) _Jot_: talibcyg, are you using a wireless connection? then that may be the reason
(07:15:47 PM) Zabadda: does 64 bit really kick in enough if your not running games though
(07:15:54 PM) JohnRobert: I don't trust some weird website that knows every site I visit and has my email
(07:15:59 PM) xxuriahxx: I have optonline and i get 15 down and 1.7 up, should i remove..it
(07:16:04 PM) linuxwebfly: you can find all the drivers for it.
(07:16:06 PM) JohnRobert: they could easily start sending me junk mail based on what websites I've visited etc..
(07:16:21 PM) jac: RobbieF: Wartungssatz2: robbie: Can VNC redirect audio in addition to video ?
(07:16:23 PM) talibcyg: it happens even when I play an dvd
(07:16:31 PM) albataylor1: Well I'm sure they're not the only ones watching you
(07:16:36 PM) xxuriahxx: lol
(07:16:37 PM) GoodGuy: Lose alot of prestige if they did JohnRobert
(07:16:42 PM) G_dog: yep
(07:16:46 PM) JohnRobert: RobbieF: and skype with webcams etc..
(07:16:56 PM) JohnRobert: their 64bit version isn't 64bit.
(07:16:59 PM) GoodGuy: Google watches
(07:17:11 PM) xxuriahxx: oh yeah, Im sure, I have the Gphone
(07:17:15 PM) linuxwebfly: I have had problem too.
(07:17:29 PM) GoodGuy: You can clear the info.. if you know you need to
(07:17:31 PM) JohnRobert: I use 64bit
(07:17:32 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:17:36 PM) linuxwebfly: I did get my to run now.
(07:17:41 PM) Zabadda: yeh im on 64
(07:17:42 PM) G_dog: i do to
(07:17:43 PM) dav101: 64 bit rocks
(07:17:44 PM) JohnRobert: ram is so cheap now it makes sense
(07:17:48 PM) albataylor1: Personally I don't even trust my local isp.
(07:17:55 PM) krzyglue: 64bit for me as well
(07:17:58 PM) jac: I always have problems with camera, no matter the architecture? ;-)
(07:18:05 PM) linuxwebfly: boot time, many more apps too.
(07:18:09 PM) JohnRobert: I trust my local isp, they're pretty good.. the CEO is always on the forums
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(07:18:13 PM) jac: they seem to break
(07:18:13 PM) JohnRobert: answering questions
(07:18:18 PM) stickman: keep the bag on your head jac
(07:18:25 PM) jac: lol stick
(07:18:26 PM) ajamison5579: PAE is goofy anyway so if you have more then 4gb go 64bit
(07:18:31 PM) linuxwebfly: Many processors too.
(07:18:32 PM) stickman: ;)
(07:18:34 PM) JohnRobert: jac, linux + webcam = trouble 90% of the time imo
(07:18:38 PM) gadwil: Could you use 32 bit flash on a 64 bit Operating System?
(07:18:47 PM) JohnRobert: I've tried 3 webcams on ubuntu, all have issues.
(07:19:01 PM) warcow105: gadwil, yeah, but it is very buggy
(07:19:03 PM) JohnRobert: from not working at all, to green video window etc..
(07:19:29 PM) xxuriahxx: im gonna check out that eyeball
(07:19:34 PM) gadwil: oh, wonder why the 64 edition is so buggy then.
(07:19:34 PM) linuxwebfly: I have DV 3100 cam running now.
(07:19:40 PM) jac: lol Robbie
(07:19:40 PM) ZenLord: 64 bit Win 7 can play 32bit software, but requires 64 Drivers
(07:19:54 PM) Zabadda: schoolboy error Robbie :P
(07:20:01 PM) JohnRobert: what I like about win7 is everything worked out the box
(07:20:08 PM) JohnRobert: 802.11n card
(07:20:09 PM) xxuriahxx: nice.
(07:20:09 PM) JohnRobert: webcam
(07:20:11 PM) JohnRobert: etc..
(07:20:12 PM) JohnRobert: yeah
(07:20:15 PM) warcow105: gadwil, the 64bit version has worked loads better for most people than the 32 bit did on 64bit linux
(07:20:48 PM) linuxwebfly: ROBBIEF Eye does it run on AMD64?
(07:20:48 PM) warcow105: i for one have had no issues with 64bitflash
(07:20:50 PM) jac: JohnRobert, your credit card work well on Winders7 too? ;-)
(07:21:03 PM) JohnRobert: heh yeah jac....I'm still evaluating
(07:21:08 PM) jac: lol
(07:21:13 PM) JohnRobert: I think what I *will* do is buy a new laptop with it on
(07:21:19 PM) JohnRobert: and put this pc back to ubuntu or something
(07:21:28 PM) JohnRobert: as my work machine.. I can't work on windows
(07:21:36 PM) Zabadda: yup got a launchpad account :)
(07:21:37 PM) jagez: JohnRobert, don't you feel constricted using Windows after so many years of Linux?
(07:21:42 PM) JohnRobert: I'm currently using a vbox vm
(07:21:42 PM) gadwil: I am using Win7 now, mainly since I didn't have time to switch hard drives before the show. and I guess I will get a new mobo to test a 64bit Linux soon.
(07:21:59 PM) JohnRobert: yeah jagez, hence this vm for work (and irc, identi.ca etc..)
(07:22:08 PM) JohnRobert: I sort of need windows for my music production
(07:22:08 PM) munzy: RobbieF how often will you send out your newsletter?
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(07:22:25 PM) JohnRobert: reporting bugs is a superb idea.
(07:22:29 PM) dav101: ROBBIE Q&A can you show us how to turn on 3d fx in virtualbox??????????
(07:22:34 PM) jagez: JohnRobert, ah yeah, music.
(07:22:46 PM) gadwil: didn't Launchpad just become Open Source?
(07:22:48 PM) Zabadda: ok simple as that, cheers
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(07:22:58 PM) JohnRobert: yeah, I have a usb soundcard thing, which 'sort of' work on linux using the latest linux kernel after it's been patched
(07:23:07 PM) JohnRobert: work/works
(07:23:08 PM) thiebaude: gadwil, yes it did
(07:23:08 PM) jac: lol
(07:23:13 PM) Cory`: hey Megan
(07:23:14 PM) Joi: So far so good!!!
(07:23:19 PM) Megan: im just started watching caise im slow XD
(07:23:21 PM) Megan: hey whats up
(07:23:22 PM) JohnRobert: surprisingly ableton live works superbly under wine
(07:23:25 PM) ZenLord: Robbie Vs. the Gnome
(07:23:30 PM) JohnRobert: which makes it *really* annoying
(07:23:31 PM) _Jot_: I want to become open source, but I'm sure nobody would want it, so I won't
(07:23:31 PM) jagez: JohnRobert, what make of usb sound?
(07:23:36 PM) jac: Christy, my $5 didn't count?
(07:23:39 PM) JohnRobert: NI Audio Kontrol 1
(07:23:42 PM) Megan: umm who is Christy? cause i totally didnt get it
(07:23:45 PM) Megan: no worries, my bad
(07:23:55 PM) JohnRobert: I was using the latest alsa compiled from source also
(07:23:59 PM) _Jot_: Christy is the woman on the right
(07:24:02 PM) Joi: Does one ask Q's for the show here? or through some other method?
(07:24:02 PM) JohnRobert: trust me, it's not gonna work :p
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(07:24:16 PM) gadwil: I may end up switching to Ubuntu, this is buggy for some reason.
(07:24:34 PM) jagez: JohnRobert, hehe, I ask because somebody musical asked me about a M-Audio firewire box recently
(07:24:36 PM) _Jot_: Joi, you can ask them in the chatroom, and if they see it they will try to email it, or others in the chatroom will if they can help, and you can also email Robbie if youw ant to do that
(07:24:45 PM) Megan: yeah lol, i mean is she a buddy of robbie's?
(07:24:48 PM) thiebaude: gadwil, does the audio keep cutting out?
(07:24:49 PM) Megan: ohhh photographer
(07:24:52 PM) Megan: okay got it
(07:25:03 PM) _Jot_: we are all buddies of Robbie, Megan, including you :)
(07:25:10 PM) JohnRobert: screaming kids
(07:25:12 PM) jac: Christy, Back in Time on Ubuntu works great ;-)
(07:25:16 PM) JohnRobert: something I don't want any time soon.
(07:25:21 PM) FewClues: @robbie - the camera is deployed on the Blue eyeball and it doesn't work.
(07:25:25 PM) gadwil: no, it is the video and the IRC keeps stopping up
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(07:25:28 PM) linuxwebfly: http://ultimateedition.info/
(07:25:37 PM) Megan: lol well yeah =P
(07:25:43 PM) JohnRobert: backing up is always a pain.
(07:25:53 PM) Joi: Does she use Ubuntu for her photography?
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(07:26:09 PM) xxuriahxx: i love this pidgin
(07:26:10 PM) newbeedoo [n=4587cf42@popey.com] entered the room.
(07:26:23 PM) Zabadda: yeh pidgin is great
(07:26:27 PM) Christy: joi, no i'm a little slow
(07:26:30 PM) JohnRobert: raid isn't quite backing up
(07:26:37 PM) FewClues: @robbie But the mic is awsome and my logitec still does the webcam. I'm happy.
(07:26:39 PM) Zabadda: not in the next ubuntu though
(07:26:41 PM) jac: Back up to a exteranl hd that is changed out each week with an automatic back up prgoram is my solution
(07:26:46 PM) _Jot_: raid = redundant array of individual disks
(07:26:49 PM) gadwil: yeah, I will brb. see everyone soon.
(07:26:51 PM) warcow105: and backing up isnt quite raid...eat has its own purpose
(07:26:54 PM) linuxwebfly: Pidgin needs more smiles:)
(07:26:57 PM) warcow105: each
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(07:27:01 PM) xxuriahxx: true
(07:27:07 PM) JohnRobert: virus
(07:27:14 PM) JohnRobert: spyware
(07:27:15 PM) JohnRobert: etc
(07:27:25 PM) stickman: here's one more linuxwebfly :)
(07:27:25 PM) JohnRobert: I've been very lucky with hdds
(07:27:31 PM) GoodGuy: Inexpensive Disks also
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(07:27:36 PM) JohnRobert: I think it's just you guys in america/canada that get dodgy hdds
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(07:27:45 PM) jagez: haha, can I ask the opposite question - how do you kill a hard drive.. I have one that I can't take back because it started working again
(07:27:49 PM) warcow105: raid5 + nightly backup
(07:27:50 PM) jac: hey GoodGuy, forgot to say howdy!
(07:27:51 PM) _Jot_: when raid was invented in the 60's it wasn't inexpensive :)
(07:27:54 PM) JohnRobert: I had one go funny on me ever.. that was an ibm deathstar
(07:27:56 PM) JohnRobert: years ago
(07:28:10 PM) _Jot_: ibm deathstars were farmous for dying
(07:28:25 PM) JohnRobert: yeah
(07:28:28 PM) GoodGuy: I had a Deathstar go bad also... lastest years though
(07:28:41 PM) linuxwebfly: Just picked up a USB 640 Gb hard drive. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0308986&utm_source=dotd&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=0308986
(07:28:41 PM) GoodGuy: I still have it in the basement
(07:28:43 PM) avongil: I had a few also go bad
(07:28:49 PM) newbeedoo: Picasa can store your photo in a web album.
(07:28:50 PM) JohnRobert: apparently with hard disks is they either die in their infancy or keep going...pretty much forever
(07:29:00 PM) _Jot_: CHRISTY, harddrives use SMART these days also, which also can tell you it is going bad, or is bad already
(07:29:02 PM) FewClues: Just be thankful we aren't backing up to 1 inch tape!!
(07:29:03 PM) GoodGuy: It happened so often, I found a mp3 of the click of death
(07:29:05 PM) JohnRobert: or they're doa.
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(07:29:40 PM) Zabadda: ghost my HDD
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(07:29:42 PM) jagez: GoodGuy, I made such a mp3 last week :|
(07:29:45 PM) JohnRobert: heh, I instructed our photographer to keep a copy of our wedding photos
(07:29:51 PM) G_dog: i safe all my on a 1tb hard
(07:29:57 PM) ajamison5579: I use my webhost as an offsite backup
(07:29:58 PM) JohnRobert: ibm desk star
(07:30:02 PM) JohnRobert: an old hard disk
(07:30:04 PM) FewClues: @Robbie - Drop Box and Ubuntu ONE work very well.
(07:30:05 PM) JohnRobert: that used to fail a lot
(07:30:14 PM) Minotisok: WinXP - use Macrium Free to an external hard drive. Scheduled daily.
(07:30:15 PM) GoodGuy: Deskstar for real, but it was nicknamed DeathStar.. IBM now Hitachi
(07:30:19 PM) Drumstick: I image occasionally and backup drive nightly to external drive.
(07:30:19 PM) JohnRobert: Christy taught you something RobbieF
(07:30:20 PM) JohnRobert: :)
(07:30:24 PM) linuxwebfly: where is that (backintime)?
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(07:30:35 PM) FewClues: Way to go Christy!!
(07:30:36 PM) warcow105: i use raid 5, and also splatter important data on a bunch of drives as backup
(07:30:37 PM) GoodGuy: This wasnt ANY.. It was ALL lol
(07:30:39 PM) dav101: I have all my stuff on 3 different computers & dvd's at my mothers house
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(07:30:47 PM) _Jot_: I backup on hd's and I have a nas, which is just a linux computer with an encasing, I replaced the harddisks of it just a few weeks ago
(07:30:48 PM) linuxwebfly: is it 9.04
(07:30:54 PM) jac: linuxwebfly look in your repository
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(07:30:56 PM) JohnRobert: if you're a bit more hard core, try rsync or unison for backing up..
(07:31:02 PM) Minotisok: Winxp - use Karen's Replicator to backup documents daily.
(07:31:08 PM) Christy: hey FewClues
(07:31:18 PM) gadwil2: This is gadwil, for some reason I wasn't logged out from my reboot
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(07:31:28 PM) t0psy: I use Dropbox for backup (great show btw)
(07:31:28 PM) JohnRobert: raid 5 can work with 3 disks
(07:31:29 PM) linuxwebfly: will do but I am AMD64
(07:31:31 PM) ZenLord: I believe Samsung SSD Drives have a warranty
(07:31:32 PM) warcow105: JohnRobert, yeah i just rsynced my netbook today
(07:31:34 PM) JohnRobert: as a minimum
(07:31:46 PM) Christy: tanx tOpsy
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(07:31:50 PM) xxuriahxx: Back in time: http://backintime.le-web.org/
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(07:32:00 PM) GoodGuy: Not in a Drobo iirc
(07:32:03 PM) krzyglue: also i believe raid 5 must be all the same disk sizes
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(07:32:09 PM) gadwil2: I just do manual back-ups to my external Hard Drive.
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(07:32:24 PM) JohnRobert: yeah GoodGuy
(07:32:29 PM) JohnRobert: I heard that, although I'm not sure.
(07:32:31 PM) warcow105: the drives can be different sizes if you use linux lvm
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(07:32:36 PM) linuxwebfly: no there?
(07:32:46 PM) JohnRobert: I spent a long time looking into whether getting a drobo was a good idea
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(07:32:49 PM) JohnRobert: I decided it wasn't
(07:32:51 PM) Crewsr3 [n=Crewsr3@c-68-51-77-195.hsd1.il.comcast.net] entered the room.
(07:33:02 PM) linuxwebfly: thank you for the link. :D
(07:33:03 PM) warcow105: ROBBIE: the drives can be different sizes if you build the raid on linux lvm
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(07:33:03 PM) GoodGuy: I saw it on Geekbrief as well as one other show.. Maybe Tekzilla
(07:33:06 PM) Crewsr3: I'm late but I made it
(07:33:09 PM) ZenLord: Correction ( Samsung has a 10 yr warranty on SSD drives )
(07:33:14 PM) JohnRobert: if you have a problem with drobo, because it's using a proprietry method to store the data, getting it back if the controller fails could be impossible
(07:33:20 PM) dav101 [n=51aa0349@popey.com] entered the room.
(07:33:28 PM) JohnRobert: which brings me on to say, software RAID with lvm2 is best.
(07:33:31 PM) linuxwebfly: bookmarked it for now.
(07:33:32 PM) Christy: welcome Crewsr3
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(07:33:39 PM) JohnRobert: RobbieF: raid + lvm2.
(07:33:46 PM) Crewsr3: Christy, thanks
(07:33:46 PM) dav101: <dav101> I have all my stuff on 3 different computers & dvd's at my mothers house
(07:33:47 PM) JohnRobert: in a pc
(07:33:52 PM) Minotisok: Drobo - HDs don't have to have the same size.
(07:33:52 PM) jac: Dang power company, another surge, lost power
(07:33:55 PM) Crewsr3: did he talk about ubuntuone?
(07:34:01 PM) xxuriahxx: no problem linuxwebfly
(07:34:07 PM) warcow105: JohnRobert, the one problem with software raid is the bus gets saturated
(07:34:07 PM) GoodGuy: Eight on the new Pro model
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(07:34:24 PM) JohnRobert: sure warcow105, but for home use I don't think it matters
(07:34:26 PM) linuxwebfly: very cool
(07:34:29 PM) GoodGuy: Cali Lewis demoed one a couple weeks ago
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(07:34:32 PM) _Jot_: ROBBIE, you can build a (small) computer with lots of storage and put linux on it, then the RAID drives don't have to be the same size
(07:34:45 PM) gadwil2: QUESTION: How do I connect to the chat in Pidgion, I have freenode-connect up going through port 6667, where do I got from here?
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(07:34:47 PM) _Jot_: ROBBIE, so build your own NAS
(07:34:48 PM) FewClues: @crew3 yep! he doesn't like em.
(07:34:51 PM) warcow105: then deffinately use lvm robbie
(07:34:56 PM) JohnRobert: I'd definitely go with a full tower pc, linux md raid and lvm2.
(07:35:05 PM) JohnRobert: lvm2 makes having lots of disks *really* awesome :)
(07:35:07 PM) Crewsr3: FewClues, he doesn't like ubuntone?
(07:35:10 PM) GoodGuy: ROBBIE: Have you heard of OpenFiler?
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(07:35:22 PM) JohnRobert: kludge 'em all together and set up how you like
(07:35:28 PM) Joi: Can one asks Q's about windows, or mac in here? or is this just Linux related?
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(07:35:32 PM) GoodGuy: I saw an article in a Linux magazine
(07:35:41 PM) gadwil2: all OS's Joi.
(07:35:46 PM) _Jot_: gadwil2, join irc.freenode.net and connect to room Category5
(07:35:46 PM) JohnRobert: there's an esata drobo now isn't there?
(07:35:48 PM) jac: me too GoodGuy! ;-)
(07:35:55 PM) Joi: Ok thanks.
(07:35:56 PM) JohnRobert: maybe there's not
(07:36:03 PM) warcow105: robbie drobo is a horrible idea for you
(07:36:10 PM) krzyglue: esata is the best, but firewire 800 isn't that bad really
(07:36:10 PM) JohnRobert: RobbieF: also, proprietary. data is stored in a proprietary way
(07:36:14 PM) GoodGuy: Magazine was $15 and that was the only article I liked
(07:36:17 PM) thiebaude: backup on server,robbie
(07:36:17 PM) JohnRobert: if it fails, your data is lost.
(07:36:20 PM) warcow105: lvm...most of us agree
(07:36:30 PM) _Jot_: ROBBIE, just build your own linux-NAS-system
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(07:36:36 PM) JohnRobert: RobbieF: popey had serious data loss with his drobo...ask him :)
(07:36:40 PM) thiebaude: make a server
(07:36:41 PM) Joi: I'm on a Mac. Any suggestions for a IRC client to use? I dont like the web based chat running on Safari.
(07:36:45 PM) krzyglue: and robbie, depending what that system is, there's a chance that's only a firewire 400
(07:36:49 PM) Zabadda: can u not use your blacx? and just buy more HDDs
(07:37:01 PM) linuxwebfly: I picked up 640GB External USB 2.0 Hard Drive - Silver $60
(07:37:03 PM) jac: drobo will work if you exchange your hard drives off site
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(07:37:14 PM) GoodGuy: Irecle or something like that on Macs
(07:37:17 PM) krzyglue: very true warcow
(07:37:30 PM) JohnRobert: drobo is very appealing
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(07:37:40 PM) JohnRobert: but I think it's just marketed very well
(07:37:41 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:37:42 PM) xxuriahxx: Mac IRC Clients: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/mac/
(07:37:44 PM) GoodGuy: Ircle
(07:37:45 PM) talibcyg: the drobo pro has esata
(07:37:50 PM) JohnRobert: ^
(07:38:11 PM) _Jot_: ROBBIE, drobo etc is just linux in a device, so it does the same that you can do
(07:38:12 PM) t0psy: How much data has cat5tv consumed so far? Just curious
(07:38:13 PM) jac: JohnRobert, Cali Lewis is very appealing, drobo ahh, kind of ;-)
(07:38:14 PM) JohnRobert: yeah RobbieF
(07:38:18 PM) JohnRobert: that could be a feature
(07:38:19 PM) FewClues [n=4b0e0b89@popey.com] entered the room.
(07:38:19 PM) G_dog: RobbieF make your server with raid5
(07:38:23 PM) JohnRobert: lol jac
(07:38:27 PM) ajamison5579: why not use a break out box and eSata raid cards
(07:38:27 PM) JohnRobert: that's where I first heard about it
(07:38:28 PM) ZenLord: Online storage like Moby
(07:38:33 PM) GoodGuy: OpenFiler and they used something called iScsi
(07:38:39 PM) FewClues: I hate my graphics card - overheated. Switched computers
(07:38:41 PM) JohnRobert: drobo uses a proprietary storage driver though
(07:38:44 PM) JohnRobert: it's not *just* linux
(07:39:16 PM) GoodGuy: Maybe a free unit for discussing it RobbieF lol
(07:39:21 PM) warcow105: FewClues, nvidia 250 on sale at a few places for under $100 usd
(07:39:22 PM) JohnRobert: RobbieF: you could make a feature of building your own raid NAS :)
(07:39:23 PM) talibcyg: that is true robbie
(07:39:25 PM) krzyglue: does anyone know how the drobo's raid is implemented?
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(07:39:55 PM) krzyglue: would it be comparable to a dedicated RAID card in a PC?
(07:39:58 PM) krzyglue: performance wise
(07:40:02 PM) JohnRobert: I needed a nas, I got a WD mybook.. which has it's pros and cons
(07:40:05 PM) FewClues: I'm ready. I have a GEforce 5800 and it kicks out constantly
(07:40:05 PM) Joi: Thanks xxuriahxx for the link
(07:40:09 PM) JohnRobert: mybook world edition that is
(07:40:11 PM) jac: RobbieF, JohnRobert had agreat idea for a show
(07:40:16 PM) xxuriahxx: no problem...
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(07:40:39 PM) JohnRobert: yeah definitely!
(07:40:44 PM) JohnRobert: that'd be an awesome series of shows
(07:40:45 PM) linuxwebfly: Cool Raid it dude!
(07:40:46 PM) jac: YES!
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(07:40:52 PM) FewClues: I'd vote for it - YES!!
(07:40:56 PM) JohnRobert: loads of people want that kind of thing
(07:41:02 PM) munzy: Yes great show idea.
(07:41:08 PM) Zabadda: it would solve your problem and teach everyone something
(07:41:09 PM) thiebaude: yep
(07:41:15 PM) ajamison5579: go for it
(07:41:17 PM) _Jot_: ROBBIE, you can do that easily, so yeah, definatly
(07:41:24 PM) JohnRobert: perhaps building a raid nas or something out of an old pc, and some old hard disks
(07:41:24 PM) GoodGuy: Ircle was IRC for a MAC
(07:41:24 PM) linuxwebfly: I still have bays too..
(07:41:34 PM) gadwil2: ok, I just got into this on pidion, now I am Gadwil1, Hopefully I can just remember all of this for next week.
(07:41:50 PM) jac: I got one other idea, hook the kids up with a memory storage jack and plug them in ;-)
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(07:41:51 PM) GoodGuy: A few sites did building a NAS video
(07:41:54 PM) linuxwebfly: Hardware is always cool...
(07:41:56 PM) xxuriahxx: pidgin is awesome...
(07:42:03 PM) ajamison5579: what is the target space limit
(07:42:05 PM) linuxwebfly: Old PC
(07:42:07 PM) _Jot_: gadwil2. Remember 1) start IRC client. 2) join irc.freenode.net 3) join room Category5. Easy
(07:42:17 PM) Joi: Downloading Colloquy. It seems like the one that is easiest to use.
(07:42:23 PM) thiebaude: Gadwil1, and add to chat
(07:42:29 PM) JohnRobert: hmm
(07:42:36 PM) ZenLord: Nvidia 8800 GTS Horizontal Tearing VLC seems to have the best Video Ubuntu 9.0.4
(07:42:38 PM) jagez: I have recently been converted to Linux software raid over hardware, after having 2 different h/w raid cards fail in interesting ways
(07:42:43 PM) jt75 [n=rzcxqm@cpe-0014bfe9d6d2.cpe.cableonda.net] entered the room.
(07:42:49 PM) _Jot_: ROBBIE, All SATA is hot-swappable, you just need to make linux aware of it
(07:42:54 PM) jac: <---- no twit
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(07:42:55 PM) GoodGuy: http://www.openfiler.com/
(07:43:05 PM) dav101: ROBBIE QUESTION: CAN YOU SHOW US HOW TO USE COMPIZ FUTION IN VIRTUAL BOX?
(07:43:06 PM) Gadwil1: I have it automatically join irc.freenode.net and go through port 6667, my thing is remembering the join command, isn't that hard I just don't seem to remember it for some reason. Thank you for the help though
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(07:43:19 PM) warcow105: _Jot_, needs to be setup as AHCI
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(07:43:31 PM) JohnRobert: you can mount the disk without write caching turned on
(07:43:32 PM) warcow105: wait...is ahci the right letters...lol
(07:43:33 PM) JohnRobert: then it'd be ok
(07:43:37 PM) jac: Nivce shout out dav101, think we heard it ;-)
(07:43:41 PM) GoodGuy: Set it up as a favorite channel
(07:43:41 PM) Crewsr3: ok so I'm late but does it look dark tonight to anyone else?
(07:43:48 PM) Crewsr3: the set looks dark
(07:43:49 PM) linuxwebfly: my MB will not do hot swap.
(07:43:53 PM) dav101: OK
(07:43:56 PM) _Jot_: yep, a bit dark crewsr3, but lights still being worked on :)
(07:44:02 PM) GoodGuy: There is also a NAS called NASLite
(07:44:09 PM) Megan: yeah a tad dark and a tad blue
(07:44:16 PM) Crewsr3: _Jot_, I can see them from Backstage pass
(07:44:17 PM) Megan: looks fine though
(07:44:23 PM) _Jot_: CHRISTY, we're glad to have you and Robbie as well
(07:44:28 PM) Gadwil1: wow, it is already 45 minutes through, fast so far.
(07:44:32 PM) JohnRobert: *** email your RAID segment suggestions to live@category5.tv !
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(07:44:45 PM) JohnRobert: naslight, freenas etc..
(07:44:48 PM) Joi: What picture does Robbie have on his mug?
(07:44:51 PM) JohnRobert: you don't really need any of that
(07:44:56 PM) JohnRobert: you can use a linux distro
(07:45:06 PM) Crewsr3: I wounder if RobbieF would like to spend some time after the show to tweak the setting and send the feed via backstage pass
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(07:45:09 PM) JohnRobert: although they're probably much easier to use
(07:45:11 PM) Crewsr3: we can give him feedback
(07:45:20 PM) munzy: RobbieF how often will you send out your newsletter?
(07:45:20 PM) JohnRobert: good idea Crewsr3
(07:45:32 PM) _Jot_: Joi, www.superantispyware.com
(07:45:38 PM) krzyglue: you may get lucky if you phone microsoft
(07:45:44 PM) Crewsr3: I might have time tonight or some other night depending on what works for RobbieF
(07:45:50 PM) jac: munzy, roughly once a month
(07:45:54 PM) Joi: Oh ok. Thanks
(07:46:17 PM) linuxwebfly: lol
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(07:46:24 PM) jac: Mug Shot!
(07:46:42 PM) linuxwebfly: yes lol
(07:46:42 PM) Joi: LOL
(07:46:42 PM) thiebaude: windows folks buy that
(07:46:53 PM) Zabadda: yeh its very good
(07:47:00 PM) stickman: it's a soybean
(07:47:02 PM) FewClues: We just got mugged by Christie
(07:47:09 PM) JohnRobert: soylent green
(07:47:09 PM) xxuriahxx: lol
(07:47:16 PM) jac: Thanks SUPERAntiSpyware and ESET!
(07:47:25 PM) JohnRobert: yeah
(07:47:32 PM) JohnRobert: the white balance on today's show is wayyy off
(07:47:33 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:47:45 PM) warcow105: yeah, little dark, and a little blue
(07:47:45 PM) linuxwebfly: I have VMware mug
(07:47:48 PM) JohnRobert: it's ok
(07:47:48 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:47:56 PM) linuxwebfly: lol
(07:47:59 PM) _Jot_: Get on with it! :)
(07:48:00 PM) jagez: it's way better than last week :)
(07:48:05 PM) stickman: much better than last week tho
(07:48:06 PM) jac: RobbieF, babysitter?
(07:48:08 PM) JohnRobert: employ a stage hand
(07:48:11 PM) FewClues: Isn't there a linux app for that?
(07:48:15 PM) dav101: its better than lst wk
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(07:48:40 PM) linuxwebfly: RobbieF how do you install new desktop icons.
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(07:48:59 PM) Zabadda: ive gotta shoot guys thanks for the show :) ill catch up the last 10 later
(07:49:05 PM) _Jot_: linuxwebfly, robbie did show that earlier for ubuntu
(07:49:11 PM) JohnRobert: seeya Zabadda thanks for joining us
(07:49:12 PM) warcow105: see ya Zabadda
(07:49:12 PM) GoodGuy: Bye Zabadda
(07:49:13 PM) jac: be well Zabadda
(07:49:15 PM) Crewsr3: Does anyone have a sansa fuze?
(07:49:23 PM) linuxwebfly: real what number
(07:49:26 PM) JohnRobert: Crewsr3: nope, but they look good
(07:49:27 PM) Zabadda left the room.
(07:49:33 PM) JohnRobert: I'm so fed up with my ipods
(07:49:33 PM) JohnRobert: :/
(07:49:41 PM) linuxwebfly: I'll look for it.
(07:49:50 PM) jac: Crewsr3, I have a short fuze ;-)
(07:49:52 PM) linuxwebfly: thks Jot
(07:49:57 PM) JohnRobert: doing something useful, like, I dunno, getting music on to them is too much of a pita
(07:50:05 PM) Crewsr3: I converted the last few shows to play on my Sansa Fuze and I uploaded them to ubuntuone. If someone what to download them I could share them
(07:50:05 PM) thiebaude: jac ,haha
(07:50:21 PM) FewClues: Isn't the desktop a work area? How can you do anything with all those ICONS srpead all over it?
(07:50:22 PM) munzy: Any opinions about the htc dream device?
(07:50:25 PM) _Jot_: linuxwebfly, it was as easy as right-click the application in the menu, and then select 'add icon to desktop'or 'add icon to panel'
(07:50:49 PM) stickman: Crewsr3: that's a special codec?
(07:50:56 PM) jt75: is there a way to watch the live feed on totem?
(07:51:06 PM) JohnRobert: I need to go and buy some new trainers after the show
(07:51:12 PM) jac: Crewsr3, If I hadn't already spent my allowence for the month I'd but a Fuze just to do that! Thanks any way!
(07:51:17 PM) Crewsr3: stickman, No its not special but the Sansa fuze is picky about what format it will play
(07:51:17 PM) linuxwebfly: No to change the icons,
(07:51:26 PM) warcow105: munzy, i have the g1, i love it
(07:51:31 PM) JohnRobert: lollll
(07:51:35 PM) stickman: ah. thanks Crewsr3
(07:51:37 PM) linuxwebfly: not to just add one.
(07:51:38 PM) JohnRobert: tea drinking brits
(07:51:40 PM) xxuriahxx: g1 me 2
(07:51:40 PM) Crewsr3: jac, I've been pretty happy so far
(07:51:41 PM) JohnRobert: good one Christy :p
(07:51:57 PM) jagez: I'm a brit and I Don't Like Tea.
(07:52:01 PM) xxuriahxx: cupcake...
(07:52:01 PM) JohnRobert: me too
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(07:52:05 PM) JohnRobert: hence I found it funny
(07:52:10 PM) JohnRobert: but I actually like tea
(07:52:16 PM) JohnRobert: and coffee
(07:52:24 PM) jac: Crewsr3, I lke my old sansa e260 (?) so I bet the Fuze is awesome
(07:52:30 PM) JohnRobert: there's more free stuff than paid for stuff
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(07:52:42 PM) warcow105: everything on the internet is free...just need to know where to go lol
(07:52:46 PM) jac: jagez, we forgive you ;-)
(07:52:50 PM) JohnRobert: I'd just like an mp3 player I could drop mp3s on to
(07:52:52 PM) GoodGuy: lol warcow105
(07:52:53 PM) munzy: thxs
(07:52:58 PM) JohnRobert: lol warcow105
(07:52:58 PM) Crewsr3: JohnRobert, true the web is full of free stuff, who said man kind is bad
(07:53:02 PM) JohnRobert: tpb
(07:53:03 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:53:06 PM) GoodGuy: Buy one with MSC mode
(07:53:31 PM) dav101: <warcow105> lol you're not kidding
(07:53:31 PM) xxuriahxx: i wipe and redid my g1 today - very refreshing...
(07:53:32 PM) JohnRobert: anyone seen 'the king of kong'?
(07:53:35 PM) GoodGuy: Sansa players do that JohnRobert
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(07:53:41 PM) JohnRobert: yeah GoodGuy
(07:53:43 PM) jagez: jac, where is the tea-drinking coder stereotype eh? doesn't exist. coffee all the way. ;)
(07:53:44 PM) JohnRobert: hence I like them
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(07:54:04 PM) GoodGuy: I had a Sansa Clip for a couple days and read it could do that
(07:54:15 PM) JohnRobert: it has different transfer modes doesn't it
(07:54:16 PM) jac: JohnRobert, on order from netflix, what other internet shows do you watch that influences you too?
(07:54:18 PM) JohnRobert: mtp or something
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(07:54:25 PM) ajamison5579: wow
(07:54:28 PM) JohnRobert: cool jac
(07:54:29 PM) GoodGuy: Yes.. MTP and MSC
(07:54:31 PM) ajamison5579: i need that component
(07:54:41 PM) JohnRobert: I mainly watch house M.D. atm... it's totally awesome
(07:54:42 PM) JohnRobert: :)
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(07:54:55 PM) GoodGuy: I saw a hack for the Zune to do that, but its not "official"
(07:54:56 PM) warcow105: yeah, house rocks!!!
(07:55:07 PM) thiebaude: JohnRobert, i liked the last episode of house
(07:55:07 PM) JohnRobert: no spoilers, we're about to start s4
(07:55:10 PM) JohnRobert: no spoilers, we're about to start s4
(07:55:14 PM) Crewsr3: hey she is reading me email
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(07:55:38 PM) jac: Christy, I think you owe the audience a dance! ;-)
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(07:55:41 PM) Crewsr3: RobbieF, no its not commercial
(07:56:02 PM) FewClues: The first 1 gb is free
(07:56:11 PM) Crewsr3: RobbieF, they do sell a version but first 2 gb free
(07:56:13 PM) JohnRobert: what's that, ubuntu one?
(07:56:13 PM) thiebaude: JohnRobert, you in australia?
(07:56:22 PM) JohnRobert: thiebaude: yeah
(07:56:24 PM) dav101: SAMNSA FUSE use bit torrent
(07:56:25 PM) Crewsr3: RobbieF, seemless with gnome
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(07:56:39 PM) Christy: jaac - don't want to lose audience lol
(07:56:40 PM) ajamison5579: it is a dropbox clone
(07:56:41 PM) Gadwil1: 3GB if you recruit 4 people.
(07:56:46 PM) thiebaude: JohnRobert, i wont spoil it, but the ending is shocking
(07:56:53 PM) JohnRobert: >:/
(07:56:53 PM) Crewsr3: RobbieF, email me after the show and I would be glad to ftp them to you
(07:57:00 PM) Guest_9813: Robbie free conversion tool WINFF
(07:57:06 PM) _Jot_: I don't like backups online because usually the company having the backups owns the data and can do what they want with it, including selling and using it for themselves, according to their terms of service
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(07:57:37 PM) warcow105: _Jot_, thats why you only put encrypted data on online backup
(07:57:38 PM) _Jot_: for instance, google, microsoft, etc are very famous examples of this
(07:57:39 PM) JohnRobert: _Jot_: pretty much all of them store your stuff encrypted
(07:57:41 PM) jac: lol Christy, we have witnessed Robbie and Carrie dance, if we can survive that ... ;-)
(07:58:02 PM) JohnRobert: still
(07:58:07 PM) JohnRobert: online backup seems too expensive to me
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(07:58:20 PM) JohnRobert: when you're talking TB's
(07:58:28 PM) Guest_9813: Robby Product info Please look at winff
(07:58:28 PM) Gadwil1: alsa force-reload try that in the terminal
(07:58:34 PM) JohnRobert: great to have you with us Christy
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(07:58:44 PM) _Jot_: CHRISTY, you're doing great
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(07:58:48 PM) JohnRobert: lol, techno stuff
(07:58:49 PM) jac: lol Christy, welcome back, well done!
(07:58:51 PM) dav101: GOOD JOB!!
(07:58:53 PM) thiebaude: another great show
(07:58:59 PM) Drumstick: Thanks Robbie and Christy....'night all!
(07:59:02 PM) JohnRobert: anti-glare coating
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(07:59:04 PM) warcow105: lol
(07:59:10 PM) stickman: thanks RobbieF n Christy!
(07:59:15 PM) warcow105: wear a hat
(07:59:15 PM) GoodGuy: Thank you Robbie and Christy
(07:59:15 PM) xxuriahxx: great show guys...!!!
(07:59:18 PM) JohnRobert: I have it on my glasses
(07:59:19 PM) jagez: a nice big silly wig :)
(07:59:20 PM) JohnRobert: it's pretty good
(07:59:26 PM) JohnRobert: great for night driving
(07:59:39 PM) JohnRobert: awesome
(07:59:42 PM) JohnRobert: cheese :D
(07:59:46 PM) munzy: Great show!
(07:59:47 PM) _Jot_: don't follow me! you'll grow bored
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(08:00:01 PM) warcow105: yaaaay...another great show
(08:00:14 PM) JohnRobert: lool
(08:00:18 PM) JohnRobert: there's your dancing kot
(08:00:20 PM) Megan: Awesome show guys!!!!
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(08:00:21 PM) JohnRobert: I mean, jot
(08:00:24 PM) Gadwil1: that was a good hour spent
(08:00:31 PM) JohnRobert: lol
(08:00:33 PM) JohnRobert: nice RobbieF
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(08:00:37 PM) jac: RobbeF, on backstage pass the top of your head does disappear ;-)
(08:00:42 PM) munzy: nice
(08:00:43 PM) Gadwil1: I hope to see everyone next week. See ya later. I got some House to watch on Hulu! :)
(08:00:44 PM) JohnRobert: ROFL
(08:00:44 PM) _Jot_: great coating!
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(08:00:49 PM) Joi_: lol
(08:00:57 PM) RobbieF: Thanks all!
(08:00:58 PM) Megan: lol
(08:01:02 PM) Megan: nice
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(08:01:07 PM) munzy: bye all!
(08:01:08 PM) Joi_: Good show.
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(08:01:10 PM) JohnRobert: right, time to buy new trainers
(08:01:11 PM) _Jot_: now all we need is the ironing of the curtains
(08:01:12 PM) jac: Christ, RobbieF, great show folks, well done!
(08:01:15 PM) RobbieF: Thanks Joi; thanks all
(08:01:18 PM) xxuriahxx: goodnite everyone
(08:01:19 PM) RobbieF: Thanks Jac
(08:01:19 PM) GoodGuy: http://www.openfiler.com/
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(08:01:20 PM) jac: *Christy
(08:01:27 PM) Crewsr3: RobbieF, I will be right back I need to put my little one to bed, but then I would be glad to get the FTP going to share the shows with you
(08:01:29 PM) JohnRobert: lol cheers RobbieF & Christy, have a good night.
(08:01:34 PM) GoodGuy: Thats a Linux based NAS RobbieF
(08:01:35 PM) Christy: hey, guys thanks so much
(08:01:36 PM) RobbieF: sure crewsr3
(08:01:37 PM) roga: dohh, missed it cause compiz fusion killed my sound.
(08:01:41 PM) RobbieF: i'm doing the recast tonight, so no worries
(08:02:10 PM) jac: Thank you Christy, with aboard, Robbie is so much easie to swallow ;-)
(08:02:12 PM) roga: I'll be soaking up the show with miro.
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(08:02:13 PM) dav101: Goodbye all
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(08:02:32 PM) RobbieF: to those who have to run: Have a great week!
(08:02:33 PM) Christy: thanks jac - he just puts up with me
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(08:02:40 PM) jac: dav101, tune in next week
(08:02:46 PM) Christy: seee yaaallll
(08:02:50 PM) _Jot_: You both did great Christy and Robbie
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