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(04:55:18 PM) The topic for #category5 is: www.Category5.TV - Tune in to this week's live (and FREE) online TV program focused on technology. This week we'll be continuing our series on desktop virtualization: run Linux and Windows at the same time! We'll also be answering a ton of viewer questions, so a lot of topics will be covered. Get your questions in, and join us at www.Category5.TV
(04:55:19 PM) mode (+o RobbieF ) by ChanServ
(06:59:23 PM) ZachB02: Hey Guys
(06:59:25 PM) ***agamotto offers Drumstick Hand_Eye_Coord_v2.3 on a USB stick
(06:59:38 PM) popey: heheh
(07:00:14 PM) Gleepwurp1974 [n=4a3ac7c7@popey.com] entered the room.
(07:00:33 PM) agamotto: Hmmm, would a virtual XP machine need virus protection?
(07:00:39 PM) JohnRobert: wow
(07:00:39 PM) JohnRobert: !
(07:00:44 PM) JohnRobert: MUCH BETTER
(07:00:51 PM) ZachB02: Clean!
(07:00:54 PM) agamotto: He turned it around 90 degrees?
(07:00:54 PM) JohnRobert: much brighter
(07:00:56 PM) JohnRobert: crisp
(07:01:04 PM) JohnRobert: loads better
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(07:01:22 PM) agamotto: I don't tally anyone's bananas publicly....
(07:01:32 PM) Mdemi: Hi everyone:)
(07:01:36 PM) agamotto: Hola
(07:01:41 PM) Gleepwurp1974: Hey
(07:01:42 PM) chest069: Robbie video and sound are perfect this week wow thanks.
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(07:01:49 PM) JohnRobert: I have some ram I can give away (hopefully)
(07:01:57 PM) JohnRobert: to a good cause though
(07:02:00 PM) JohnRobert: not just you chumps
(07:02:01 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:02:11 PM) agamotto: What kind?
(07:02:16 PM) JohnRobert: ddr2
(07:02:21 PM) dlmarti: lol on-the-planet
(07:02:21 PM) JohnRobert: 533mhz I think
(07:02:25 PM) agamotto: Ahhh, won't work for what I am doing
(07:02:31 PM) JohnRobert: 2x1gb, 2x512mb
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(07:02:55 PM) JohnRobert: I'm concerned about import taxes though, so shipping world wide might be a pita
(07:02:58 PM) JohnRobert: and not worth it
(07:03:09 PM) agamotto: True....
(07:03:12 PM) JohnRobert: the lighting is so much better
(07:03:14 PM) JohnRobert: this is aweosme
(07:03:18 PM) JohnRobert: awesome.
(07:03:29 PM) Drumstick: ROBBIE: Might be me but sound is kinda scratchy when it peaks.
(07:03:57 PM) ZachB02: Robbie, thanks for helping me figure out how to use Pidgin with the IRC chat room! Its awesome!
(07:03:58 PM) dlmarti: Drumstick, agreed, RobbieF the audio is overdriving on your peaks
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(07:03:59 PM) JohnRobert: yeah it's clipping sometimes
(07:03:59 PM) Dosbomber: Sounds fine here.. you using headphones?
(07:04:01 PM) JohnRobert: only just though
(07:04:10 PM) agamotto: Clipping here as well at times
(07:04:13 PM) JohnRobert: still a fairly clear ep
(07:04:33 PM) agamotto: Carrie is practicing her gloving technique..
(07:04:39 PM) Drumstick: Right, it's not bad clipping
(07:04:51 PM) ajamison5579: why do you have two cameras behind you but only use one
(07:05:09 PM) agamotto: I would assume that one is rather low-res
(07:05:13 PM) mmdmurphy: gloving technique?
(07:05:44 PM) agamotto: mmdmurphy: Sliding oversized doctor-paws into surgical gloves
(07:06:02 PM) mmdmurphy: ok gotcha
(07:06:07 PM) popey: RobbieF: sound is fine here
(07:06:09 PM) JohnRobert: it's only cliping slightly on ooo's and aahhh's
(07:06:13 PM) popey: RobbieF: very good in fact
(07:06:20 PM) JohnRobert: or emphasised words
(07:06:24 PM) nodch: RobbieF: fine on this end too
(07:06:32 PM) JohnRobert: it is better than it is normally
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(07:06:33 PM) agamotto: Clips a bit when you get loud
(07:06:37 PM) JohnRobert: but it's not perfect if you ask me
(07:06:38 PM) zonaguy: sound very good - I have no clipping
(07:06:49 PM) popey: \o/ ubuntu mug
(07:06:52 PM) Dosbomber: Maybe needs a "pop filter"?
(07:06:53 PM) JohnRobert: one thing that is much better is the lighting
(07:07:03 PM) JohnRobert: Dosbomber: it doesn't sound like popping
(07:07:17 PM) Dosbomber: Ah ok... I don't hear it, so I'm just guessing
(07:07:52 PM) agamotto: Unless his mic needs a fuzzy bit to soften sounds
(07:07:56 PM) Dosbomber: Hm.. no backstage cam tonight
(07:08:03 PM) JohnRobert: his mic has a fuzzy bit
(07:08:13 PM) JohnRobert: I like the way improvements are made all the time
(07:08:18 PM) agamotto: Hmm, would either of those cams be the Eye of Gnome?
(07:08:33 PM) DaveySpeedstar: backstage works for me
(07:08:40 PM) JohnRobert: eog is an image viewer isn't it?
(07:08:50 PM) agamotto: Yah, I was attempting a joke
(07:08:55 PM) Drumstick: Backstage pass is working here Dosbomber
(07:09:02 PM) Dosbomber: Backstage has sound but no video for me
(07:09:16 PM) chest069: Robbie I bought a Blax and I love it. Thanks for the suggestion.
(07:09:26 PM) agamotto: Blax?
(07:09:41 PM) mmdmurphy: when I put this on, and walk away, I am "afraid the teacher is going to call on me" - know what I mean?
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(07:10:35 PM) agamotto: No, I didn't find that sort of thing embarrasing at that age
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(07:10:44 PM) Mdemi: i use the gui easy way:) "disk-manager" supports mount and unmount gui way.
(07:10:54 PM) JohnRobert: easy?
(07:10:55 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:10:57 PM) agamotto: Less troublesome for noobs as well
(07:11:30 PM) JohnRobert: hmm
(07:11:47 PM) JohnRobert: I think if you mount something with the user flag it gives normal users access...depends I think
(07:12:09 PM) JohnRobert: depends on the file system too
(07:13:12 PM) warcow105: the 945 in the atom processor will run
(07:13:17 PM) warcow105: just not fast
(07:13:17 PM) JohnRobert: i950 will be fine
(07:13:25 PM) JohnRobert: my i810 struggles a little bit, but that's old
(07:13:34 PM) agamotto: The cat has decided to help me with my trackball
(07:13:44 PM) JohnRobert: so I would have though i950 would handle it fine, best of all it'll work out the box no probs
(07:13:45 PM) DaveySpeedstar: cool thanks
(07:13:55 PM) ajamison5579: can you disable the integrated graphics and get a add in card
(07:14:00 PM) DaveySpeedstar: that's no big deal
(07:14:07 PM) JohnRobert: the intel 3d cards don't need proprietary drivers I believe
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(07:14:21 PM) JohnRobert: (although they're a lot worse than nvidia/ati in terms of performance)
(07:14:23 PM) agamotto: 2G of main memory makes alot of Compiz problems go away
(07:14:44 PM) Dosbomber: Don't they usually have a switch in the back for 240/120?
(07:14:53 PM) JohnRobert: newegg
(07:14:56 PM) JohnRobert: tiger thingi
(07:14:59 PM) ZachB02: tigerdirect
(07:15:01 PM) JohnRobert: I runno.
(07:15:02 PM) Guest_6971: uk power supplys normaly have a switch to change them to 120v
(07:15:10 PM) JohnRobert: ^ that's true
(07:15:17 PM) agamotto: Most power supplies do this now...
(07:15:19 PM) JohnRobert: not sure about mini itx supplies though
(07:15:30 PM) agamotto: All three of my systems can switch to 220
(07:15:39 PM) JohnRobert: I don't think my dell has a switch
(07:15:40 PM) Dosbomber: Little ugly red switch that is flush mounted on the PSU
(07:15:52 PM) agamotto: Oh, mini ITX.... mine are all mATX
(07:15:55 PM) mmdmurphy: ROBBIE - do anything to get ready for Conficker or figure it's a "non - event"?
(07:16:10 PM) ZachB02: http://download.cnet.com/Conficker-Removal-Tool/3000-2239_4-10911447.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0&cdlPid=11016361
(07:16:12 PM) JohnRobert: mmdmurphy: he'll get to that in a bit
(07:16:14 PM) agamotto: mmdmurphy: He will be chatting about it a bit
(07:16:18 PM) DaveySpeedstar: I've seen swiches on the larger PSU's, but I've never actually seen a micro IRL, so wasn'too sure if it would be the same
(07:16:23 PM) ZachB02: Free conficker removal tool
(07:16:30 PM) DaveySpeedstar: I'll keep my eyes open
(07:16:32 PM) JohnRobert: thanks ZachB02
(07:16:34 PM) DaveySpeedstar: thanks Robbie
(07:16:45 PM) agamotto: RobbieF: Most supplies will switch 120/220 these days
(07:16:55 PM) JohnRobert: don't forget guys, you can ask your questions here!!
(07:17:13 PM) JohnRobert: n1 RobbieF
(07:17:31 PM) agamotto: And we are here to announce.... Mr. Whatshisface.....
(07:18:14 PM) agamotto: Just let Robbie catch up with post Meat episodes.... lot of catching up to do
(07:18:18 PM) ajamison5579: Robbie is the Meat going to be updated soon for the last few episodes
(07:18:21 PM) agamotto: posting, that should be
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(07:19:59 PM) Drumstick: Sound is better here now....no clipping
(07:20:09 PM) agamotto: Hmmm, I am surprised that people haven't been calling me this week to clean out their systems
(07:20:29 PM) ZachB02: Free conficker removal tool http://download.cnet.com/Conficker-Removal-Tool/3000-2239_4-10911447.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0&cdlPid=11016361
(07:20:29 PM) Dosbomber: Most people probably haven't heard of it
(07:20:52 PM) agamotto: It has been on the evening news for two days around here
(07:21:00 PM) agamotto: All four local stations
(07:21:09 PM) agamotto: I was rather impressed
(07:21:19 PM) Gleepwurp1974: April Fools?
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(07:21:49 PM) agamotto: Sounds like a good answer to me!
(07:21:50 PM) Dosbomber: Yeah, my local news station people probably can't spell computer, much less use them
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(07:22:10 PM) agamotto: RobbieF: Would a virtual XP/Vista install have to worry about this sort of thing?
(07:22:17 PM) Guest_6971 is now known as copex
(07:22:18 PM) nodch: RobbieF: Actually Conficker is already activated in a bunch of countries, but we do not see any effect on the polled websites. Btw. the Conficker C variant is the least common one of the three.
(07:22:26 PM) ziggy1194: Robbie, how do you set desctop cube to rotate automatically; to use as a screensaver?
(07:22:27 PM) warcow105: agamotto, yes
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(07:22:35 PM) agamotto: I did lecture them on the proper use of the words 'hacker' and 'cracker'
(07:22:53 PM) Dosbomber: Nice going, agamotto
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(07:23:01 PM) agamotto: warcow105: Interesting.... because of the port opening?
(07:23:13 PM) Ashleyl: helllloo
(07:23:38 PM) warcow105: if windows is vulnerable it doesnt matter if it is the primary OS or if it is virtual
(07:23:44 PM) rick505: I'll use my Linux boot CD to resolve all XP virus issues :>)
(07:23:45 PM) mmdmurphy: hi Ashleyl
(07:23:55 PM) warcow105: the host OS shouldnt get affected though
(07:24:10 PM) warcow105: unless it is also windows lol
(07:24:14 PM) agamotto: I just wasn't sure if the handoff/handshaking between the hypervisor and the 'guest' would keep such things out or not
(07:24:23 PM) warcow105: no
(07:24:34 PM) Ashleyl: brb
(07:24:39 PM) agamotto: I have learned something today.
(07:24:43 PM) agamotto: \0\
(07:24:54 PM) agamotto: \0/, even
(07:25:03 PM) copex: [Question] ubuntu 8.10 the close/minimize/maximize has disappeared i have to use alt + f9 to minimize the window i have tryed f11, all of the other windows are ok.
(07:25:09 PM) ZachB02: Robbie, tell them about this free conficker removal tool
(07:25:12 PM) ZachB02: http://download.cnet.com/Conficker-Removal-Tool/3000-2239_4-10911447.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0&cdlPid=11016361
(07:25:42 PM) ***agamotto chuckles... we could do the whole \0\ /0/ \0\ \0/ thing... the wave, in ASCII
(07:26:02 PM) JohnRobert: copex: sounds like metacity has crashed, open a terminal and type: metacity
(07:26:05 PM) warcow105: ZachB02, it is appeciated, but people should really download from antivirus websites only and not 3rd party sites like cnet
(07:26:05 PM) JohnRobert: then press return
(07:26:24 PM) agamotto: copex: What window manager?
(07:26:39 PM) copex: emeraled
(07:26:50 PM) nodch: RobbieF: Actually Conficker is already activated in a bunch of countries, but we do not see any effect on the polled websites. Btw. the Conficker C variant is the least common one of the three.
(07:26:57 PM) copex: tryed switching back to matasity
(07:26:58 PM) agamotto: Did you do the emerald --replace?
(07:27:05 PM) copex: yes
(07:27:12 PM) agamotto: Hmmm
(07:27:22 PM) warcow105: apply a new theme?
(07:27:24 PM) copex: its only firefox
(07:27:34 PM) nodch: press F11 :)
(07:27:38 PM) copex: its like the to bar is missing
(07:27:56 PM) copex: it not runing in full screen
(07:27:59 PM) agamotto: Oh well, Firefox can cause fun with just about any window manager. I am used to my title bar disappearing with Firefox
(07:28:17 PM) agamotto: Restarting Firefox usually kicks it for me
(07:28:18 PM) nodch: couldn't resist, as my wife is doing that on a regular basis
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(07:31:46 PM) JohnRobert: also, vista has a bigger memory footprint than many linux distributions
(07:31:49 PM) Dosbomber: Gotta go.. see y'all next week
(07:31:51 PM) JohnRobert: much bigger
(07:31:58 PM) JohnRobert: probably.
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(07:32:19 PM) Mdemi: i must say as a gnome user that gnome is heavy to.
(07:32:30 PM) JohnRobert: hmm
(07:32:46 PM) agamotto: Compared to things like XFCE, I would have to agree
(07:32:47 PM) ajamison5579: what about ext4 does that fragment
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(07:33:07 PM) JohnRobert: ajamison5579: I think all filesystems fragment, it's just how they handle it
(07:33:10 PM) agamotto: Vista certainly needs about 2Gb to be useful in the sense of running mulitple programs
(07:33:18 PM) mmdmurphy: Anyone read about Reiser and his wife's murder?
(07:33:19 PM) JohnRobert: I think the idea is ext3/4 defragment as they go
(07:33:24 PM) JohnRobert: mmdmurphy: old news.
(07:33:27 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:33:33 PM) agamotto: I thought ext4 was still having problems with losing stuff
(07:33:38 PM) mmdmurphy: ok, but still odd
(07:33:51 PM) JohnRobert: agamotto: I'm not sure, I wouldn't recommend using it at the moment
(07:34:02 PM) ajamison5579: nah i have my home partition formated ext4 and i have not lost anything
(07:34:09 PM) agamotto: mmdmurphy: Madness and genius generally walk hand-in-hand.
(07:34:25 PM) JohnRobert: yeah, I think the issue is it commits writes every minute or so
(07:34:30 PM) JohnRobert: or did, or sometimes does
(07:34:39 PM) JohnRobert: eg if you turn off your pc before then you might lose data
(07:34:50 PM) JohnRobert: I think you can also tweak that value
(07:34:57 PM) agamotto: Cool. I wasn't planning on switching from ext3 until I can encrypt the whole drive at the install level
(07:35:44 PM) warcow105: agamotto, why are you waiting to encrypt\
(07:35:54 PM) agamotto: Ease of setup?
(07:36:01 PM) warcow105: in the installer
(07:36:03 PM) mmdmurphy: encrypt = truecrypt
(07:36:06 PM) agamotto: I want a 'push this' solution from the installer
(07:36:26 PM) warcow105: it is in there, it has been a while so i forget where lol
(07:36:43 PM) agamotto: Hmmm, I will have to look into that
(07:37:04 PM) warcow105: it might be on the alternate install cd....not sure
(07:37:04 PM) ***agamotto offers some popcorn to the channel
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(07:37:51 PM) GoodGuy: clear
(07:38:25 PM) JohnRobert: fedora gives you an encrypt option on install
(07:38:28 PM) GoodGuy: Is anyone chatting?
(07:38:31 PM) JohnRobert: yes
(07:38:36 PM) GoodGuy: Whew
(07:38:42 PM) agamotto: Hmmm, that is nice to know
(07:38:44 PM) mmdmurphy: me too
(07:40:01 PM) agamotto: We are paying rapt attention
(07:40:37 PM) GoodGuy: I couldn't tell if I was working
(07:41:07 PM) mmdmurphy: I know when I am working, and when I am at home.
(07:41:22 PM) JohnRobert: chortle
(07:43:12 PM) JohnRobert: good
(07:43:12 PM) ajamison5579: good
(07:43:15 PM) ZachB02: good
(07:43:19 PM) warcow105: just swell
(07:43:23 PM) JohnRobert: :D
(07:43:36 PM) JohnRobert: yes
(07:43:37 PM) agamotto: Robbie doesn't have a USB bevy warmer?
(07:43:39 PM) ajamison5579: doog
(07:43:39 PM) Drumstick: coffee warmer...hint hint
(07:43:39 PM) JohnRobert: we like the new set
(07:43:41 PM) mmdmurphy: Possible topic - did install to USB of ubuntu, but it died when I did updates.
(07:43:51 PM) agamotto: I thought that came with most office furniture these days...
(07:44:20 PM) ZachB02: How big is the Ubuntu install?
(07:44:35 PM) agamotto: Typically, about 4gb?
(07:44:41 PM) mmdmurphy: Zach - dont know, but it was 2 gig usb drive...
(07:44:45 PM) Drumstick: Yep, new set is nice, especially lighting improvement
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(07:44:50 PM) agamotto: Oh duh, USB stick...
(07:44:56 PM) ZachB02: Ok, thanks.
(07:45:01 PM) Mdemi: Robbie: have you noticed that when you format a ntfs in virtualbox its fast done but when doing it native it takes so long you get gray hairs
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(07:45:08 PM) JohnRobert: wow
(07:45:11 PM) JohnRobert: that's a serious machine
(07:45:21 PM) JohnRobert: 6hdds?!
(07:45:22 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:45:26 PM) GoodGuy: I thought it was dark on my PC, but I havent figured out how to lighten the video
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(07:45:30 PM) agamotto: Sounds like something Pirate Bay would be using
(07:45:35 PM) ajamison5579: i would put 30 in if i could
(07:45:36 PM) JohnRobert: that's gonna make a lot of noise
(07:45:46 PM) JohnRobert: especially with the 3 gfx cards
(07:45:46 PM) ajamison5579: I love hard drives
(07:45:49 PM) ZachB02: Nice motherboard!
(07:45:49 PM) ajamison5579: the more the merrier
(07:45:57 PM) GoodGuy: Its error checking when you do it for real Mdemi
(07:46:02 PM) agamotto: 1kw I would imagine
(07:46:05 PM) ajamison5579: RAID
(07:46:15 PM) ajamison5579: that could be the reason
(07:46:20 PM) GoodGuy: The space has already been checked in a virtual mode
(07:46:23 PM) JohnRobert: yeah, I'd say 1Kw
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(07:46:39 PM) agamotto: 400watts for the video cards alone....
(07:46:39 PM) JohnRobert: ajamison5579: it's still a fairly serious raid array for a non-server
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(07:47:16 PM) agamotto: Nah, be messy and use mineral oil!
(07:47:19 PM) ajamison5579: yeah true but they could do a Raid 5 you need at least 4 drives for that
(07:47:32 PM) warcow105: raid 5 is 3 drives
(07:47:33 PM) ZachB02: Can you put 6 solid state hard drives in a raid 0 array? In theory?
(07:47:39 PM) warcow105: 4 for a hot spare
(07:47:43 PM) agamotto: I don't see why not....
(07:47:46 PM) GoodGuy: They did that on one of the internet shows.. messy indeed
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(07:48:28 PM) GoodGuy: Might have been Systm or Geekbrief.tv
(07:48:33 PM) JohnRobert: raid 5 is at least three drives
(07:48:35 PM) ZachB02: What video card does Robbie have?
(07:48:39 PM) JohnRobert: you could have raid 10 ith 6
(07:48:39 PM) JohnRobert: :)
(07:48:41 PM) nodch: @GoodGuy: both
(07:48:46 PM) JohnRobert: dual redundancies
(07:48:52 PM) agamotto: And a very good power conditoner on it
(07:48:54 PM) GoodGuy: Thanks nodch
(07:49:00 PM) nodch: ;)
(07:49:13 PM) mmdmurphy: many podcasts are redudant, guess theres only so much news
(07:49:16 PM) JohnRobert: this man needs NLITE
(07:49:20 PM) JohnRobert: ^
(07:49:25 PM) JohnRobert: I used it just a few days ago
(07:49:34 PM) GoodGuy: and RyanVM Integrator
(07:49:36 PM) JohnRobert: allows you to make a custom windows cd
(07:49:46 PM) JohnRobert: yeah or you could just image the drives
(07:50:00 PM) JohnRobert: g4u is an open source solution for imaging
(07:50:03 PM) agamotto: I prefer imaging... so much easier
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(07:50:05 PM) JohnRobert: we used that at my old office
(07:50:09 PM) mmdmurphy: PING also
(07:50:13 PM) JohnRobert: can work over the network and pxe boot also
(07:50:28 PM) JohnRobert: there's always dd from a livecd etc..
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(07:50:33 PM) GoodGuy: There is a ghost clone on Windows.. Macrium Reflect or something like that.. dont have my URL's now
(07:50:38 PM) JohnRobert: I used dd over netcat before which is awesome.
(07:51:02 PM) GoodGuy: What is netcat?
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(07:51:24 PM) JohnRobert: netcat is a way of piping output from a program over a network
(07:51:26 PM) agamotto: That is why you bill by the hour!
(07:51:33 PM) GoodGuy: Sounds neat
(07:51:38 PM) JohnRobert: eg echo "hello" | nc 192.168.1.23:56
(07:51:38 PM) ***agamotto chuckles evilly
(07:51:40 PM) JohnRobert: or whatever
(07:51:43 PM) JohnRobert: it's AWESOME
(07:51:43 PM) ma: Hi
(07:51:43 PM) JohnRobert: :)
(07:51:50 PM) JohnRobert: man nc
(07:51:53 PM) ZachB02: I agree with agamotto
(07:52:03 PM) ZachB02: :-D
(07:52:05 PM) GoodGuy: So thats sending Hello to that remote ip?
(07:52:20 PM) agamotto: I love getting paid to defrag someone's system
(07:52:26 PM) ma: xchat for Windows is not free
(07:52:32 PM) agamotto: Decent money even at $20/hour
(07:52:49 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy: yep
(07:53:06 PM) GoodGuy: Something to read up on :-)
(07:53:19 PM) dlmarti: ma, yes it is:: http://www.silverex.org/download/
(07:54:12 PM) agamotto: Hmmm, so mult-partitioning makes you a head-banger!
(07:54:46 PM) Ashleyl: dose anyone know about mac os x 86?
(07:54:53 PM) GoodGuy: We used to have software to analyze head access patterns and reorg to move files next to each other on a mainframe
(07:55:56 PM) GoodGuy: My memory isnt working... I used that software a fair amt and now I cant recall its name.. been over ten yrs
(07:56:05 PM) warcow105: haha...just got an IM from my mother "i will not bother you with this new virus to hit computers tomorrow, because i know i don't run on microsoft:-)"
(07:56:08 PM) ma: I see Robbie is not signed on or online
(07:56:11 PM) warcow105: i finally taught her
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(07:56:20 PM) ma: He is all alone now
(07:56:20 PM) dlmarti: mediocreguy :)
(07:56:26 PM) GoodGuy: lol dlmarti
(07:56:27 PM) agamotto: warcow105: Props to mom
(07:56:55 PM) mmdmurphy: I put the PDF on my deskto
(07:56:56 PM) warcow105: i moved her off of windows about 1 1/2 - 2 years ago
(07:57:36 PM) mmdmurphy: warcow - she's smarter than a door knob?
(07:57:48 PM) mmdmurphy: my mother in law couldn't do it.
(07:57:51 PM) Ashleyl: dose anyone know anything about mac os x x86?
(07:58:03 PM) dlmarti: My mother is 67, and can't program her alarm clock, and I got her using Linux :)
(07:58:08 PM) GoodGuy: Sorry I don't Ashleyl
(07:58:09 PM) warcow105: all new macs are osx on x86
(07:58:21 PM) dlmarti: She actually likes it better than her old windows install
(07:58:23 PM) Ashleyl: no like cracked for intel
(07:58:23 PM) ZachB02: YES! More hardware! :-D
(07:58:30 PM) JohnRobert: more fun
(07:58:32 PM) Drumstick: Nice show Ribbie!
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(07:58:47 PM) warcow105: Ashleyl, all new macs are intel hardware
(07:58:48 PM) dlmarti: Thanks RobbieF
(07:58:51 PM) nodch: Thanks RobbieF
(07:58:55 PM) ma: Thank you Robbie
(07:58:59 PM) Slipp3d [n=Slip@216.228.48.89] entered the room.
(07:59:03 PM) Gleepwurp1974: Thanksw
(07:59:04 PM) GoodGuy: Thanks Robbie
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(07:59:06 PM) agamotto: Ashley: So you are asking us if we have experience with illegal copies of MacOS X for pcs?
(07:59:11 PM) Slipp3d: did i make it?
(07:59:12 PM) ZachB02: Thanks Robbie, great show!
(07:59:13 PM) Ashleyl [n=5162fcce@popey.com] entered the room.
(07:59:18 PM) ma: You are the best
(07:59:20 PM) Slipp3d: ... oh the show is over ... darn it
(07:59:21 PM) nodch: RobbieF: nodch sounds similar to notch...
(07:59:23 PM) mmdmurphy: bye all
(07:59:27 PM) dlmarti: ma did you get my xchat link?
(07:59:29 PM) agamotto: Ashley: So you are asking us if we have experience with illegal copies of MacOS X for pcs?
(07:59:45 PM) Gleepwurp1974: c-ya
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(07:59:46 PM) nodch: you got it
(07:59:47 PM) chest069: Bye Robbie
(07:59:51 PM) GoodGuy: New Macs use Intel hardware
(07:59:51 PM) warcow105: lol
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(07:59:53 PM) agamotto: Only to a Scottsman
(07:59:57 PM) Slipp3d: later RobbieF
(08:00:00 PM) Drumstick: Bye all
(08:00:05 PM) nodch: you too, see you next week
(08:00:06 PM) JohnRobert: lol
(08:00:07 PM) Ashleyl: i mean running mac on a windows pc
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(08:00:10 PM) ziggy1194: good show robbie
(08:00:16 PM) GoodGuy: Use quad cores iirc.. next gen might go to I7's
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(08:00:24 PM) agamotto: Yah, but you used the word cracked....
(08:00:27 PM) ZachB02 left the room.
(08:00:35 PM) ma: Have a good April Dools Day
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(08:00:45 PM) ma: Fools
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(08:00:59 PM) agamotto: I will... no Windows to deal with... unless someone pays me of course....
(08:01:00 PM) GoodGuy: If Conficker doesn't get Windows users!
(08:01:02 PM) warcow105: Ashleyl, a mac and a windows pc are the same thing, same hardware
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(08:01:21 PM) Slipp3d: when does the recast start?
(08:01:24 PM) agamotto: warcow105: No, macs still have that 'special' BIOS chip
(08:01:25 PM) Ashleyl: where can i get touchpad drivers from for mac?
(08:01:25 PM) RobbieF: Thanks everyone!
(08:01:30 PM) RobbieF: Slipp3d; in 30 minutes
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(08:01:51 PM) warcow105: agamotto, you know what i mean :-)
(08:01:52 PM) GoodGuy: It'll be on Miro soon also
(08:02:03 PM) agamotto: RobbieF: Curiousity question... does multipart really bang the heads that much?
(08:02:04 PM) GoodGuy: usually tomorrow iirc
(08:02:29 PM) GoodGuy: Depends on the workload RobbieF
(08:02:32 PM) GoodGuy: agamotto
(08:02:45 PM) warcow105: agamotto, the heads wont really bang
(08:03:04 PM) agamotto: Hmmm. I have never really had a hard drive die on me, so I am curious about that
(08:03:05 PM) Slipp3d: I'll just stick around for the recast... miro started to bug me