Conversation with #category5

(05:52:13 PM) The topic for #category5 is: www.Category5.tv - On tonight's show: Backing up your files in Windows XP and good backup habits for all platforms. When a web site isn't working, is it just you? How to create your own Latest Episode Widget module in Joomla. All this and more - tonight on www.Category5.tv
(05:52:13 PM) mode (+o RobbieF ) by ChanServ
(06:58:46 PM) Cliff_H: Hey! Robbie does have some hair!
(06:58:53 PM) JohnRobert: compare itunes with something like banshee for example
(06:58:53 PM) thomasgilling: It runs wonderfully on Mac OS X 10.5
(06:58:59 PM) JohnRobert: you'll soon realise how bad itunes is.
(06:59:00 PM) Jot: I saw a brochure of some macs, was 10 times the price of pcs with the same capabilities, I figured they put it down there to make me laugh but it really was a serious look for macs for them
(06:59:02 PM) thomasgilling: banshee sucks
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(06:59:15 PM) underdog512: my laptop has better specs than most macbooks at less than half the price
(06:59:16 PM) thomasgilling: it is supposed to be aqua but
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(06:59:21 PM) thomasgilling: it looks ugly
(06:59:28 PM) agamotto: I just can't stand the idea of paying over $100 each year for the 'updated' OS
(06:59:28 PM) thomasgilling: it's blue
(06:59:36 PM) thomasgilling: becuase it is better
(06:59:43 PM) thomasgilling: than the last one
(06:59:59 PM) thomasgilling: why do you go from fail to epic fail
(07:00:12 PM) thomasgilling: aka Win xp to vista
(07:00:12 PM) underdog512: I perfer an OS updated for free every 6 months
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(07:00:20 PM) techgecko: woot
(07:00:23 PM) thomasgilling: how can a good OS be free?
(07:00:32 PM) Dosbomber: Um...
(07:00:36 PM) underdog512: linux
(07:00:40 PM) JohnRobert: I'm putting together an old pc for backing up to
(07:00:44 PM) thomasgilling: yes that's a kernel
(07:00:47 PM) thomasgilling: not a OS
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(07:00:53 PM) techgecko: as in beer
(07:00:56 PM) underdog512: ubuntu then
(07:00:58 PM) thiebaude: hi everyone
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(07:01:08 PM) thomasgilling: free as in freedom
(07:01:08 PM) Sanjeev: hello
(07:01:08 PM) JohnRobert: robbie has some hair now?
(07:01:09 PM) underdog512: whatever
(07:01:11 PM) Cliff_H: Robbie .... will this cover slip streaming windows updates?
(07:01:13 PM) Davey_Speedstar: wooo-hooo Joomla widgets!!!
(07:01:24 PM) Jot: Wow! Carrie has hair too!
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(07:01:33 PM) thomasgilling: Joomla is annoying
(07:01:33 PM) Cliff_H: Yes
(07:01:33 PM) Cliff_H: Yes
(07:01:37 PM) Dosbomber: Next week he'll have a doo like Rob Blagoyavich
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(07:01:44 PM) Dosbomber: er.. Rod
(07:01:50 PM) munzy: hi all
(07:01:59 PM) Jot: hi munzy
(07:02:08 PM) thiebaude: hi munzy
(07:02:11 PM) pablo: Robbie Your Mom wnat your hair to grow in too!!
(07:02:19 PM) Cliff_H: haha
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(07:02:38 PM) agamotto: Feh... Something has happened to my sound on this machine
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(07:02:57 PM) pablo: Robbie! Your mom wants to grow in too
(07:03:03 PM) JohnRobert: john doe? :)
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(07:03:09 PM) thiebaude: hi carrie
(07:03:20 PM) Cliff_H: <--- Invented dirt
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(07:03:24 PM) JohnRobert: lolll RobbieF
(07:03:38 PM) G_Dog: lol
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(07:03:41 PM) agamotto: Ok, this sucks. Off to the other computer then.
(07:03:44 PM) agamotto: BRB
(07:03:44 PM) JohnRobert: cortex
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(07:03:58 PM) Jot: So you do get smarter watching Robbie and Carrie?
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(07:04:44 PM) Jot: I really never though you'd get smarter watching somebody grow hair, interesting
(07:04:45 PM) thomasgilling: when are they going to call the fsf a terrorist website?
(07:04:48 PM) raptor22: msi wind
(07:04:49 PM) Cliff_H: Robbie needs some glasses.... I'm going to send him a couple of Coke bottles
(07:04:50 PM) ArthurAmendt: Is the Dell Mini 12 for $529 (canada) a good netbook deal?
(07:05:14 PM) thiebaude: dell is
(07:05:20 PM) Dosbomber: Robbie: Does your Sansa Fuze rattle at all if you shake it? (ie: loose components) I had an Audible Otis that I dropped some years ago that quit working in similar fashion to the way you describe your Sansa dying, and a little delicate disassembly and soldering fixed it right up.
(07:05:20 PM) underdog512: the mini 9 w/ ubuntu is better
(07:05:33 PM) underdog512: cheaper and better specs
(07:05:46 PM) thiebaude: underdog512, i agree
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(07:05:54 PM) Jot: buy Carrie a better one, Robbie!
(07:05:56 PM) Cliff_H: For my $$$ Dell is the best ... but then you have Fords & Chevs & etc
(07:06:00 PM) Cliff_H: For my $$$ Dell is the best ... but then you have Fords & Chevs & etc
(07:06:01 PM) Jot: buy Carrie a better one, Robbie!
(07:06:02 PM) Cliff_H: For my $$$ Dell is the best ... but then you have Fords & Chevs & etc
(07:06:02 PM) Cliff_H: For my $$$ Dell is the best ... but then you have Fords & Chevs & etc
(07:06:02 PM) Cliff_H: For my $$$ Dell is the best ... but then you have Fords & Chevs & etc
(07:06:06 PM) underdog512: VISTA?!!
(07:06:06 PM) JohnRobert: wooow
(07:06:11 PM) thomasgilling: dell is bad
(07:06:11 PM) Jot: lag sucks
(07:06:14 PM) JohnRobert: Cliff_H: please don't repeat yourself like that.
(07:06:18 PM) thomasgilling: they put toxins in
(07:06:27 PM) Cliff_H: I wasn't try'n to
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(07:06:34 PM) thomasgilling: HP is just as Bad
(07:06:40 PM) Cliff_H: It would'nt go the first time
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(07:07:03 PM) underdog512: what you you suggest....emachines?
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(07:07:07 PM) underdog512: lol
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(07:07:09 PM) thomasgilling: no
(07:07:11 PM) Cliff_H: I have all the Meat clips
(07:07:12 PM) Crewsr3: I'm so glad I can enjoy the show live
(07:07:15 PM) thomasgilling: emachine is bad
(07:07:19 PM) thomasgilling: people who
(07:07:20 PM) gbarton [n=62b40720@popey.com] entered the room.
(07:07:24 PM) thomasgilling: cannot afford comps
(07:07:25 PM) ***agamotto bows again
(07:07:26 PM) Crewsr3: I missed last week, I downloaded last weeks
(07:07:29 PM) underdog512: you think
(07:07:32 PM) underdog512: lol
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(07:07:38 PM) JohnRobert: wooho number 7
(07:07:41 PM) thomasgilling: yes
(07:07:49 PM) agamotto: Emachines used to be good, but like many, they have gone down the drain
(07:07:53 PM) thomasgilling: yes
(07:07:53 PM) JohnRobert: give it some time, category 5 will be number 1
(07:08:00 PM) JohnRobert: best show on
(07:08:03 PM) thomasgilling: I got mine from the dump
(07:08:10 PM) underdog512: Robbie: is the meat in HD on Miro?
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(07:08:16 PM) thomasgilling: my ASDA computer
(07:08:19 PM) Dosbomber: Canada's in the #2 slot in viewer count again.
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(07:08:28 PM) Cliff_H: Sorry about the flood ... I was have'n probs of getting it to go
(07:08:30 PM) Davey_Speedstar: too right I'm watching
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(07:08:45 PM) ***agamotto chuckles
(07:08:46 PM) JohnRobert: we're a big happy family here
(07:08:55 PM) thomasgilling: where is carries mom?
(07:09:01 PM) agamotto: Part of why I keep watching
(07:09:06 PM) JohnRobert: she emailed in the other week thomasgilling
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(07:09:09 PM) underdog512: Robbie: is the meat in HD on Miro?
(07:09:12 PM) thiebaude: Hi robbie
(07:09:21 PM) Sanjeev: ROBBIE- I recorded a TV prog on my DVD recorder onto DVD-RAM, but I could not see the VOB files on my Intrepid PC which has a DVD-RAM drive too. Any ideas why Intrepid could not see the VOB files
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(07:09:32 PM) thomasgilling: carrie read e-mails
(07:09:33 PM) underdog512: cool
(07:09:34 PM) Cliff_H: Robbie ... How about a "family" night where we meet all u'ns family?
(07:09:36 PM) underdog512: indeed
(07:09:40 PM) pablo: Carrie tell Robbie his mom is watching!!
(07:09:46 PM) thomasgilling: carrie: read emails
(07:09:58 PM) Jot: a dvd-recorder usually doesn't burn vob-files but in a propriety format I think
(07:09:58 PM) JohnRobert: yeah, we liked the paper
(07:10:02 PM) munzy: Picnic
(07:10:15 PM) agamotto: I will bring the ants!
(07:10:17 PM) thomasgilling: carrie: read emails
(07:10:28 PM) CarrieW: heading there thomasgilling...:)
(07:10:40 PM) thiebaude: Hi carrie
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(07:10:41 PM) Cliff_H: Panda IS good!
(07:10:42 PM) G_Dog: React OS i am try this
(07:10:48 PM) G_Dog: in vb
(07:11:03 PM) Cliff_H: Robbie F .... Slip stream????
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(07:11:12 PM) agamotto: Why? So you can start talking like George Bush?
(07:11:14 PM) thomasgilling: React OS is typical FOSS
(07:11:24 PM) JohnRobert: yeah, that was a great themetune
(07:11:37 PM) Mr_Scary: My AVG just expired today. I'll have to tryout Panda.
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(07:12:27 PM) agamotto: I suppose that would depend on whether or not you are in Gaza today...
(07:12:37 PM) Dosbomber: Could his IP address be changing? Maybe your ISPs DNS table isn't updated?
(07:12:51 PM) agamotto: Now that is what I call a useful websie
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(07:12:54 PM) agamotto: website, even
(07:13:10 PM) Dosbomber: Sounds like his address is static.. :)
(07:13:14 PM) JohnRobert: whatismyip.com is a useful one too
(07:13:15 PM) thomasgilling: Why does Alan hate flash
(07:13:20 PM) RaviKumar: Not able to get on this chat WHy?
(07:13:23 PM) RaviKumar: Not able to get on this chat WHy?
(07:13:27 PM) JohnRobert: thomasgilling: read his site it'll probably say
(07:13:33 PM) JohnRobert: RaviKumar: you are on this chat
(07:13:46 PM) newbeedoo: Robbie ??? Could you make a"Category5" wedget?
(07:13:49 PM) G_Dog: RobbieF: u should try this React OS
(07:13:49 PM) Jot: there are some lag-spikes sometimes
(07:13:54 PM) agamotto: Some people (myself included) consider Flash to be a waste of bandwidth
(07:14:00 PM) Dosbomber: Robbie: Does your broken Sansa Fuze rattle at all if you shake it? (ie: loose components) I had an Audible Otis that I dropped some years ago that quit working in similar fashion to the way you describe your Sansa dying, and a little delicate disassembly and soldering fixed it right up.
(07:14:11 PM) Sanjeev: JOT - Iwas able to access the DVD-RAM files in XP and play them on VLC. So probably a file access issue
(07:14:20 PM) agamotto: I don't go to websites to be slowed down by movies I didn't click on
(07:14:21 PM) GoodGuy: Robbie: Where is the voting on the Cat5 webpage?
(07:14:44 PM) Jot: GoodGuy, it is on the left on the main-page
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(07:14:49 PM) thomasgilling: http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid94_gci1212751,00.html
(07:14:56 PM) GoodGuy: Thank you Jot
(07:15:17 PM) Crewsr3: Does anyone in here attend a loco group?
(07:15:26 PM) agamotto: GoodGuy: near the bottom left of the homepage
(07:15:29 PM) JohnRobert: Crewsr3: I believe popey does
(07:15:41 PM) JohnRobert: he used to be the main loco guy for the uk or something
(07:15:50 PM) popey: thats right
(07:16:04 PM) popey: I am on the Ubuntu LoCo Council and the EMEA Ubuntu Membership Council
(07:16:05 PM) Crewsr3: JohnRobert, really, I went last weekend to my area loco group, I look forward to the bug jam
(07:16:06 PM) underdog512: Robbie/Carrie: what is the best way to tell Ubuntu to mount a second hard drive automatically at startup.
(07:16:12 PM) popey: Crewsr3: cool!
(07:16:24 PM) Crewsr3: popey, are you a loco leader/member
(07:16:25 PM) popey: underdog512: is it a windows hard disk?
(07:16:26 PM) thomasgilling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualization
(07:16:31 PM) popey: Crewsr3: i was until last month
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(07:16:36 PM) thomasgilling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_virtualization
(07:16:39 PM) Crewsr3: popey, what happened?
(07:16:41 PM) JohnRobert: underdog512: there may be a nice easy way through gnome
(07:16:48 PM) ***agamotto pours some hot cocoa for the channel
(07:16:55 PM) GoodGuy: Update fstab underdog512
(07:16:55 PM) underdog512: no just a second hard drive with ext3
(07:16:56 PM) JohnRobert: other than that, you can edit your /etc/fstab , but only if you're confident and careful
(07:17:07 PM) thomasgilling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_virtualization
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(07:17:16 PM) Jot: I usually use umount or fmount, can't remember which one, to mount stuff
(07:17:22 PM) thomasgilling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows
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(07:17:28 PM) popey: thomasgilling: do you ned to keep repeating urls like that?
(07:17:30 PM) Braunne: RobbieF when u have the camera on you, it looks too dark!!
(07:17:39 PM) G_Dog: RobbieF: u should try this React OS
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(07:17:40 PM) GoodGuy: fstab does it perm
(07:17:51 PM) JohnRobert: mmm, coffee
(07:18:00 PM) Jot: maple-coffee even
(07:18:02 PM) Crewsr3: mmmm, coffee
(07:18:04 PM) agamotto: React OS?
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(07:18:15 PM) Crewsr3: I just cooked a bunch of bacon before the show
(07:18:19 PM) Crewsr3: mmmmm bacon
(07:18:20 PM) popey: mmmm bacon
(07:18:21 PM) underdog512: its been a while since I messed with fstab
(07:18:21 PM) JohnRobert: reactos is a free/open source windows clone iirc
(07:18:21 PM) thomasgilling: make for google gadgets
(07:18:23 PM) raptor22: Robbie, waht software do you use for putting graphics and switching between cams?
(07:18:25 PM) popey: http://drool.popey.com/
(07:18:31 PM) Cliff_H: Someone get Robbie some Sevit coffee?
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(07:18:44 PM) Thelone: :)
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(07:18:45 PM) Jot: raptor22, manycam
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(07:18:48 PM) JohnRobert: lol popey
(07:18:53 PM) GoodGuy: They already answered Carrie
(07:18:54 PM) popey: :)
(07:19:05 PM) GoodGuy: I voted already :-)
(07:19:13 PM) Guest_9339: Hi Carrie whats with the pen looks cool
(07:19:16 PM) agamotto: Civet coffee? No thanks, nothing fermented by poop, thanks
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(07:19:24 PM) JohnRobert: or f-stab as I like to call it
(07:19:36 PM) Crewsr3: popey, is that website your answer to why you are not apart of the loco group anymore
(07:19:41 PM) Cliff_H: LOL Agamotto
(07:19:45 PM) popey: underdog512: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
(07:19:45 PM) underdog512: is there a guide for editing that somewhere
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(07:19:47 PM) agamotto: Which is usually how you feel if you mess with it
(07:19:52 PM) agamotto: F***ing stabbed
(07:19:53 PM) underdog512: thanks
(07:19:57 PM) JohnRobert: listen to popey
(07:19:58 PM) popey: Crewsr3: heh, no, i decided to let someone else have a go :)
(07:20:06 PM) Guest_9339: yes its good
(07:20:09 PM) Jot: Carrie is turning into a geek!
(07:20:13 PM) agamotto: CarrieW: levenger.com
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(07:20:18 PM) G_Dog: RobbieF: u should try this React OS
(07:20:21 PM) Crewsr3: popey, so you are still an active member?
(07:20:27 PM) popey: Crewsr3: very much so, yes
(07:20:30 PM) agamotto: CarrieW: Pentopia for writing/ink geeks
(07:20:39 PM) Crewsr3: popey, Good to hear it, are you a coder?
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(07:20:42 PM) underdog512: thanks popey
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(07:20:45 PM) popey: Crewsr3: no, not really
(07:20:48 PM) popey: underdog512: no problem
(07:20:50 PM) JohnRobert: new features, yay.
(07:20:56 PM) popey: but now.. time for bed.. battery dying... nn all
(07:21:02 PM) thomasgilling: category5.tv
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(07:21:19 PM) Crewsr3: popey, me either, but I look forward to learning more at the bug jam, I got my lauchpad login set up
(07:21:24 PM) G_Dog: ok
(07:21:26 PM) JohnRobert: ah cool, yeah
(07:21:27 PM) Crewsr3: popey, still working on my gpg key
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(07:21:30 PM) G_Dog: will do
(07:21:39 PM) JohnRobert: finding a serious picture of me might be difficult
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(07:22:03 PM) agamotto: Does Picasa have a beer goggles feature?
(07:22:06 PM) Cliff_H: RobbieF ... did you get new email about new computer?
(07:22:10 PM) Jot: Robbie, maybe you can buy Carrie some glasses
(07:22:18 PM) raptor22: Robbie, waht software do you use for putting graphics and switching between cams?
(07:22:24 PM) ziggy1194: Robbie, will a 16MB video card run compiz fusion?
(07:22:31 PM) Crewsr3: CarrieW, RobbieF Does robbie attend a Ubuntu user group? It is also known as a ubuntu Loco group
(07:22:44 PM) GoodGuy: You can put Linux on a Flash Drive
(07:23:07 PM) GoodGuy: I just saw an article on that today
(07:23:16 PM) agamotto: Ziggy: Most likely not, but I do have a pent 3 laptop that has geforce 2 that can do it
(07:23:27 PM) Cliff_H: Robbie needs glasses more than Carrie
(07:23:28 PM) thomasgilling: or firewire
(07:23:32 PM) thomasgilling: if he has it
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(07:23:35 PM) Jot: raptor22, Robbie uses manycam from www.manycam.com
(07:23:38 PM) GoodGuy: http://www.macrium.com/tutorial.asp
(07:23:41 PM) Jot: raptor22, Robbie uses manycam from www.manycam.com
(07:23:44 PM) agamotto: Nah, he just needs contacts
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(07:23:48 PM) GoodGuy: The article is on that webpage
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(07:23:54 PM) Crewsr3: CarrieW, Here is a link letting you know what a loco group is http://tinyurl.com/23d5hl
(07:24:06 PM) JohnRobert: k3b, gnomebaker
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(07:24:12 PM) Jot: lagspikes :-(
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(07:24:23 PM) raptor22: thanks jot
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(07:24:24 PM) thomasgilling: why do we need loco
(07:24:25 PM) JohnRobert: brasero probably is gnomebaker
(07:24:34 PM) agamotto: Must be those hackers in Israel and Gaza!
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(07:25:01 PM) aethelberga: just did a fresh install of Mint 6 and now I have to use superuser to access firefox. why
(07:25:12 PM) agamotto: Acronis True Image!!
(07:25:19 PM) Cliff_H: RobbieF Slip streaming???
(07:25:21 PM) raptor22: :-( i hoped it's a linux one
(07:25:21 PM) Crewsr3: thomasgilling, it is nice to be able to hang with other userss
(07:25:26 PM) agamotto: I just did Mum's machine this afternoon in 35minutes
(07:25:47 PM) GoodGuy: The Meat is a great idea
(07:25:51 PM) thomasgilling: Ah becuase they are not many
(07:25:56 PM) raptor22: there are no hackers in israel and gaza
(07:26:09 PM) raptor22: most of the cyber attacks are from other countries
(07:26:14 PM) agamotto: aelthelberga: you need to right click on the Firefox icon, and change the permissions to include you/your group under executable
(07:26:14 PM) ziggy1194: thank you agamotto
(07:26:24 PM) ***agamotto bows
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(07:26:27 PM) GoodGuy: 16GB Patriot Flash drives on sale today on NewEgg = $15 USA after a rebate
(07:26:54 PM) thomasgilling: "agamotto bows" stop it
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(07:26:55 PM) GoodGuy: Thats with a code in a NewEgg email
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(07:27:05 PM) ziggy1194: lol
(07:27:14 PM) ***agamotto shakes thomasgilling like an infant
(07:27:19 PM) ***agamotto smiles
(07:27:25 PM) Cliff_H: 1.5TetB HDs are now around $150 USD
(07:27:27 PM) agamotto: Better now, toppet?
(07:27:29 PM) thomasgilling: Random Array
(07:27:32 PM) ***Dosbomber has a Drobo
(07:27:43 PM) GoodGuy: Redundant
(07:27:44 PM) thomasgilling: of Interdependent drives
(07:27:45 PM) Crewsr3: I'm a big fan of the drobo, I just don't know why it cost so much
(07:27:45 PM) aethelberga: @agamotto the whole firefix directory is like that - there is nowhere i can change it when I right click on the folder
(07:27:57 PM) GoodGuy: Lucky you Dosbomber :-)
(07:28:00 PM) agamotto: aethelberga: ouch
(07:28:02 PM) raptor22: go to http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/ to learn how to do it DIY
(07:28:26 PM) Crewsr3: I also don't know why there has not been any competition to the drobo that works in the same way
(07:28:37 PM) JohnRobert: forget to verify your backup?
(07:28:42 PM) agamotto: Acronis True Image 11 and an external drive have done wonders to keep me sane
(07:29:02 PM) Jot: on linux and such, you could dd as well :)
(07:29:03 PM) Cliff_H: How do you enable RAID?
(07:29:04 PM) agamotto: just hit 'image' and done in about 30 minutes
(07:29:07 PM) Dosbomber: Got it just in time, too. Got it about two weeks ago or so, and this past Saturday my old Buffalo NAS started making a horrible "This HD is about to rattle itself to pieces" sound during a cold spin up.
(07:29:16 PM) thomasgilling: Use a Raid util
(07:29:17 PM) agamotto: ouch
(07:29:23 PM) JohnRobert: you don't need expensive software to mirror hard disk partitions/hard disks/block devices... just look into a linux program called: dd
(07:29:29 PM) thomasgilling: like Setup RAID.app
(07:29:39 PM) Dosbomber: It sounded like a bull moose in heat
(07:29:44 PM) Cliff_H: LOL
(07:29:46 PM) thomasgilling: or Disk Utility.app
(07:29:46 PM) JohnRobert: it's as simple as dd if=/dev/sda of=/home/john/harddisk_image.img
(07:29:49 PM) sanjeev: I simply use freeNAS
(07:29:59 PM) raptor22: How does RAID works on Linux?
(07:30:03 PM) agamotto: It isn't expensive, boots from the disc, and images windows and linux drives!
(07:30:07 PM) Thelone: Carrie is lost :p
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(07:30:14 PM) agamotto: meets my criteria
(07:30:14 PM) Crewsr3: RobbieF, You might want to mention that the 480 is not the true speed
(07:30:18 PM) Jot: raid normally should be hardware-raid, and independent of the os
(07:30:30 PM) JohnRobert: a bit is on eigth a byte
(07:30:30 PM) Crewsr3: RobbieF, of usb but the idea speed or rated speed
(07:30:44 PM) JohnRobert: there's nothing wrong with software raid
(07:30:45 PM) thomasgilling: There is hardware and software baces RAID
(07:30:49 PM) JohnRobert: in many cases it's favourable
(07:30:56 PM) thomasgilling: the software is cheaper
(07:31:03 PM) thomasgilling: I like Time Machine
(07:31:04 PM) agamotto: CarrieW: All this is a fancy way of saying safe-deposit box
(07:31:06 PM) JohnRobert: as you don't rely on one proprietary raid controller
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(07:31:45 PM) ***agamotto grins
(07:31:52 PM) raptor222: grin
(07:32:01 PM) JohnRobert: you want to get your backups off site
(07:32:08 PM) agamotto: Which is why I keep my music/pictures/videos on shiny discs when possible
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(07:32:22 PM) JohnRobert: optical media is a pain :/
(07:32:24 PM) agamotto: cuts down on backup times considerably
(07:32:31 PM) gbarton: Robbie: Can you recommend an easy to use video editting program (besides Windows Movie Maker - BUGGY!) for my 12 year old son to use?
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(07:32:42 PM) JohnRobert: tbh, all backing up is a pain
(07:32:45 PM) JohnRobert: when done properly
(07:32:46 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:33:26 PM) agamotto: Backups became hell when the idea of compression died in the industry
(07:33:33 PM) sanjeev: gbarton - try winFF and avimux
(07:33:41 PM) Jot: should use multiple types of media such as hd/tape or something, and make multiple of them, and store them at different locations as well
(07:33:48 PM) gbarton: Thanks Sanjeev!
(07:33:50 PM) agamotto: Cinerella?
(07:33:55 PM) Crewsr3: Time saver looks to be a great idea, why hasn't someone cloned the idea for linux
(07:34:02 PM) agamotto: hhahahahahah
(07:34:05 PM) Cliff_H: RobbieF ... Move ur mic up closer
(07:34:06 PM) Crewsr3: CarrieW, RobbieF Does robbie attend a Ubuntu user group? It is also known as a ubuntu Loco group
(07:34:09 PM) Crewsr3: CarrieW, Here is a link letting you know what a loco group is http://tinyurl.com/23d5hl
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(07:34:41 PM) JohnRobert: you can get fireproof safes for home
(07:34:52 PM) JohnRobert: almost as good as off site
(07:34:54 PM) JohnRobert: but not quite
(07:35:07 PM) pablo: fire proof safe!
(07:35:10 PM) Crewsr3: RobbieF, what about Mozy or Carbonite
(07:35:11 PM) agamotto: Tigerdirect.com even has fire-proof drives
(07:35:15 PM) JohnRobert: one alternative is to have online backups
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(07:35:24 PM) JohnRobert: which can be very convenient
(07:35:28 PM) JohnRobert: but are quite expensive
(07:35:30 PM) aethelberga: @agamotto thx for the help. fixed it in terminal sudo chown (username) : .mozilla -R -L
(07:35:32 PM) JohnRobert: and someone else has your data.
(07:35:36 PM) Davey_Speedstar: I have my wedding photos on the flash drive on my keyring - great to show friends & colleagues without lugging a photo album around
(07:35:37 PM) thomasgilling: carrie mozy.com
(07:35:49 PM) thomasgilling: mozy.com
(07:35:55 PM) agamotto: aethelberga: Glad I had the right idea at least
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(07:35:59 PM) JohnRobert: I have copies of my data all over the place
(07:36:00 PM) raptor222: an nuclear apocalyps could magnetticly erase your drive!!!
(07:36:01 PM) Dosbomber: Those wildfires in California? I've heard stories about houses being burned to a pile of ash, with a box sitting in the middle of it, when they dug it out, it turned out to be a fireproof safe, and everything inside it was fine.
(07:36:16 PM) pablo: Great advice!
(07:36:18 PM) Drumstick: ROBBIE: What about online backups??
(07:36:22 PM) agamotto: No, but it can set them off
(07:36:25 PM) gbarton: Carrie:
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(07:36:50 PM) Davey_Speedstar: dropbox!
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(07:36:51 PM) JohnRobert: amazon offer an online backup thing called 'jungle disk'
(07:36:56 PM) thomasgilling: mozy.com
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(07:37:03 PM) thomasgilling: dropbox.com
(07:37:04 PM) gbarton: Carrie: I work in a retail store and am around those sensors ALL the time with two flashdrives in my pocket - no problems!!!
(07:37:07 PM) thomasgilling: is also good
(07:37:10 PM) Cliff_H: Rosetta Stone is a good way to back up, but slow :P
(07:37:10 PM) thomasgilling: and box.net
(07:37:21 PM) JohnRobert: yeah, online backup is also slow.
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(07:37:27 PM) thomasgilling: Rosetta Stone is a language thing?
(07:37:28 PM) Dosbomber: Rosetta Stone? I thought that was a language learning system.
(07:37:35 PM) agamotto: both
(07:37:36 PM) Jot: I would never trust an online-backup system with important data, after all, everybody can read it, so if you have any trade-secrets or business-data, it automaticly becomes a target for marketing-companies, government, and competition
(07:37:42 PM) thomasgilling: what?
(07:37:45 PM) Cliff_H: :grin
(07:37:47 PM) JohnRobert: Jot: you can encrypt it first.
(07:37:55 PM) GoodGuy: Encrypt it Jot
(07:37:57 PM) rick505: Jot - It's called encryption
(07:37:59 PM) JohnRobert: and a lot of the clients for things like amazon's jungle disk will do that first anyway
(07:38:03 PM) JohnRobert: I assume
(07:38:06 PM) underdog512: Robbie: are you aware of an app called sbackup? apparently available through synaptic in ubuntu
(07:38:11 PM) JohnRobert: you can do it yourself anyway
(07:38:12 PM) agamotto: hope/pray
(07:38:17 PM) CarrieW: Thanks gbarton!
(07:38:17 PM) Crewsr3: Jot, good point, but they do go to great lengths to lock down your data
(07:38:44 PM) JohnRobert: if you're into using the terminal, rsync is the best backup tool you'll ever use
(07:38:45 PM) raptor222: very good software, i use it
(07:38:54 PM) raptor222: works for vista too
(07:38:54 PM) Cliff_H: Better make it quick Robbie ... Almost out of time
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(07:39:05 PM) JohnRobert: supports hard links, binary deltas and pretty much anything you can think of
(07:39:07 PM) Dosbomber: Crewsr3: Assumedly, so do credit card companies, yet they are always hemorrhaging personal information of their customers.
(07:39:36 PM) JohnRobert: Dosbomber: that's not encrpyion problems
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(07:39:41 PM) JohnRobert: that's lazy banks
(07:39:45 PM) agamotto: Dosbomber: Yah, but over 90% of the time, it is a human
(07:39:51 PM) JohnRobert: 'forgetting' to encrypt
(07:39:51 PM) thomasgilling: get the closed one it is better
(07:39:54 PM) Dosbomber: I blame credit card company employees for 90% of identity theft
(07:39:58 PM) raptor222: I use 9 because 8 doesnt supports unicode chars and it currupted some of my files!
(07:40:14 PM) Crewsr3: Dosbomber, Nothing is pefectly secure, but these online services can be good for your photos
(07:40:22 PM) Cliff_H: Dang .... Hope Carrie is OK
(07:40:39 PM) Dosbomber: Somebody has a dry spot in her throat
(07:40:47 PM) agamotto: I would feel ok using online for stuff like pictures
(07:40:47 PM) Crewsr3: then you can lock up your financial data your self and then upload it
(07:40:55 PM) Jot: have to be careful with photos as well, for instance fotos of children
(07:41:12 PM) JohnRobert: yeah
(07:41:22 PM) Crewsr3: CarrieW, are you ok
(07:41:32 PM) Jot: Carrie, don't choke!
(07:41:33 PM) Dosbomber: Wow, check out that chair
(07:41:36 PM) agamotto: Nothing like choking on your own spit
(07:41:46 PM) GoodGuy: The screen image is dark on my end... may be my CRT
(07:41:46 PM) Cliff_H: WB Carrie
(07:41:49 PM) JohnRobert: in some countries people are starting to get accused of having child porn if they take photos of their children naked, so be super careful putting those on an online backup service.
(07:41:59 PM) JohnRobert: namely, the US, the UK etc..
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(07:42:09 PM) CarrieW: I'm alive....thanks!
(07:42:11 PM) Jot: there was a talk? It was so boring, I fell asleep robbie and carrie!
(07:42:42 PM) CarrieW: We'll have to put that onto a bloopers file!
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(07:42:55 PM) Jot: you're no blooper Carrie, you're a valuable addition!
(07:43:11 PM) CarrieW: thnks!
(07:43:19 PM) Jot: remember, drink, swallow, then breathe, not drink, breathe, swallow
(07:43:28 PM) G_Dog: time capsele
(07:43:30 PM) agamotto: I was once accused of hosting child porn. I politely informed the police that if they couldn't tell hotmail from sbc, i would politely inform them of the difference in court.
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(07:43:40 PM) G_Dog: by apple
(07:44:00 PM) GoodGuy: what is sbc?
(07:44:02 PM) JohnRobert: sbc agamotto ?
(07:44:11 PM) Jot: sbc is an internet-provider
(07:44:14 PM) thomasgilling: Time Machine is app
(07:44:14 PM) Crewsr3: agamotto, No kidding, where were the photos, Flikr
(07:44:20 PM) agamotto: SoutherBellCompany = now ATT
(07:44:27 PM) GoodGuy: Gotcha
(07:44:29 PM) Dosbomber: We tried to make her a geek, but now she's a hacker
(07:44:36 PM) GoodGuy: lol Dosbomber
(07:44:37 PM) Guest_9510: ha ha
(07:44:39 PM) Cliff_H: hahahah
(07:44:46 PM) JohnRobert: nice one Dosbomber
(07:44:47 PM) JohnRobert: :)
(07:44:47 PM) CarrieW: good one!
(07:45:10 PM) Jot: virusses love that setup, robbie
(07:45:12 PM) munzy: arrrrrrrh
(07:45:16 PM) agamotto: Crewsr3: No, hp online sharing site. It wasn't my fault someone on hotmail had the same nick
(07:45:30 PM) JohnRobert: moatzilla.
(07:45:36 PM) JohnRobert: heh
(07:45:36 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:45:43 PM) Cliff_H: 63 viewers WTGG!
(07:45:56 PM) JohnRobert: we had 80 something the week before last
(07:46:01 PM) Crewsr3: agamotto, bummer
(07:46:02 PM) JohnRobert: still, 63 is really good
(07:46:06 PM) Jot: 19 on the backstage pass, which is very interesting as well
(07:46:15 PM) agamotto: It was funny explaining to my parents how I could be hosting such a thing and not being rich!
(07:46:41 PM) Crewsr3: agamotto, I'm guessing you have kids
(07:46:47 PM) agamotto: Moi? non
(07:46:53 PM) agamotto: I am happily single
(07:46:56 PM) JohnRobert: carrie ok?
(07:46:57 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:47:04 PM) CarrieW: yes sir.
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(07:47:14 PM) agamotto: I make a great uncle, not so good as daddy, I don't have the daily patience
(07:47:15 PM) JohnRobert: you looked like you were about to cough
(07:47:15 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:47:24 PM) Cliff_H: Carrie ... Next time try some mint oil
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(07:47:32 PM) JohnRobert: I just can't find a sensible picture of myself for 'the team' page
(07:47:32 PM) GoodGuy: Kids teach you patience
(07:47:44 PM) JohnRobert: I might have to go for a stupid one
(07:47:44 PM) CarrieW: mint oil? Is that topical application?
(07:47:48 PM) Cliff_H: Or make you loose them .... LOL
(07:47:54 PM) agamotto: Who said it had to be sensible?
(07:47:56 PM) Crewsr3: GoodGuy, that is what parent say.....JK....I have a two year old
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(07:48:10 PM) Cliff_H: You can buy it at a grocerie store in the baking goods isle
(07:48:11 PM) JohnRobert: agamotto:
(07:48:12 PM) JohnRobert: http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnlau/3129744288/in/set-72157611539909836/
(07:48:24 PM) GoodGuy: I have a 33 yr old and a 25
(07:48:29 PM) JohnRobert: see that photo isn't suitable.
(07:48:38 PM) agamotto: I do stuff like toys4tots as I can't stand kids full time
(07:48:50 PM) Dosbomber: Geez John, warn people first...
(07:48:55 PM) JohnRobert: :D
(07:48:56 PM) Crewsr3: RobbieF, what about Mozy or Carbonite
(07:49:04 PM) Crewsr3: CarrieW, RobbieF Does robbie attend a Ubuntu user group? It is also known as a ubuntu Loco group
(07:49:07 PM) Jot: what's wrong with that photo? not your fault you are a bit.. different
(07:49:09 PM) Crewsr3: CarrieW, Here is a link letting you know what a loco group is http://tinyurl.com/23d5hl
(07:49:09 PM) Cliff_H: Slitp Sream?
(07:49:12 PM) blpjr: :-)
(07:49:13 PM) blpjr: :-)
(07:49:19 PM) raptor222: cobian 8 doesnt supports unicode characters
(07:49:35 PM) ajamison5579: What about Linux what is important to back up on Linux other then the home folder
(07:49:40 PM) JohnRobert: I can't seem to help but pull faces when someone takes a photo of me
(07:49:45 PM) Crewsr3: JohnRobert, That is a perfect photo. did you go to glamor shot?
(07:49:46 PM) blpjr: are you win7 beta testers?
(07:49:55 PM) pablo: CaRRIE::Is it secure??
(07:49:56 PM) agamotto: JohnRobert: I have seen far worse
(07:49:58 PM) JohnRobert: just had a few beers
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(07:50:13 PM) Jot: everybody will be a beta tester for windows 7 untill SP1 or 2 is out at least
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(07:50:29 PM) JohnRobert: I've got build 7000 of win7 in a VM
(07:50:34 PM) G_Dog: RobbieF: i have my own server how would i back my two michince to it
(07:50:44 PM) agamotto: I just like doing a whole image, that way I don't have to reinstall anything
(07:50:47 PM) JohnRobert: if you're interested in what it's like, I'll tell you... it's pretty much vista but with a new looking task bar
(07:50:50 PM) sanjeev: Robbie: can cobian 8 clon the system partition
(07:51:04 PM) G_Dog: RobbieF: i have my own server how would i back my two michince to it
(07:51:05 PM) agamotto: Very helpful when messing with new Myth updates.
(07:51:14 PM) Jot: G_dog, you could use it as an external disk, or use a backup-service or ftp or something like that
(07:51:17 PM) JohnRobert: ftp is *not* secure
(07:51:20 PM) agamotto: Jot: I sure won't be
(07:51:21 PM) CarrieW: sanjeev, 8 clone or clon?
(07:51:30 PM) JohnRobert: when the data is in transit it's viewable.
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(07:52:03 PM) G_Dog: RobbieF: i have my own server how would i back my two michince to it ihave linux and windows xp
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(07:52:06 PM) JohnRobert: if you're interested in encryption, look up: gpg on google
(07:52:17 PM) JohnRobert: that's encoding
(07:52:21 PM) agamotto: Truecrypt?
(07:52:21 PM) Dosbomber: pgp?
(07:52:25 PM) JohnRobert: base64 encoding
(07:52:29 PM) agamotto: PrettyGoodPrivacy
(07:52:30 PM) JohnRobert: on your email
(07:52:40 PM) JohnRobert: trucrypt is good for encrypting disks
(07:52:43 PM) JohnRobert: not so much files
(07:52:46 PM) agamotto: ahhh
(07:52:56 PM) Dosbomber: He said gpg.. wanted to see if pgp was what he meant.
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(07:53:03 PM) GoodGuy: Steganos Security Suite 2007 is free in a German magazine
(07:53:09 PM) JohnRobert: gpg is gnupg which is an open source encrpytion tool
(07:53:11 PM) agamotto: No, please don't upgrade to Office 2007!!!! I am tired of hearing the screams!!!
(07:53:16 PM) Dosbomber: Ah
(07:53:20 PM) Cliff_H: There are readers for most of MS office documents
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(07:53:22 PM) JohnRobert: which you can use to sign files, emails and files
(07:53:25 PM) Cliff_H: & Free
(07:53:26 PM) JohnRobert: I said files :)
(07:53:37 PM) iamboriskarloff: Robbie - Is there a problem with Windows XP built in backup?
(07:53:45 PM) JohnRobert: if you're using a new version of ubuntu you can just right click a file/directory and click encrpyt
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(07:53:53 PM) JohnRobert: (i think)
(07:53:56 PM) agamotto: OOo is also good at breaking passwords on M$ Office files
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(07:54:06 PM) GoodGuy: http://www.steganos.com/magazine/chip/sss2007
(07:54:14 PM) munzy: anybody know if xp will run on the new i7 cpu ?
(07:54:17 PM) Cliff_H: Robbie ... Did you get the email about new machine?
(07:54:19 PM) JohnRobert: heh, that's odd
(07:54:25 PM) JohnRobert: it's normally the other way around
(07:54:30 PM) Jot: Office files are not secure if they have a password, because most of the time the password is in plain text readable in the document
(07:54:33 PM) GoodGuy: Thats in German, but enter an email address and it will email you back a key free
(07:54:34 PM) JohnRobert: munzy: I'm sure it will
(07:54:38 PM) Cliff_H: 5min left
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(07:55:01 PM) underdog512: staticIP or Dynamic IP?
(07:55:02 PM) GoodGuy: It should or ppl would scream loud munzy
(07:55:05 PM) munzy: thxs
(07:55:10 PM) GoodGuy: XP is still supported
(07:55:29 PM) JohnRobert: all cpus (intel) tend to be backwards compatiable back to 286 or whatever it was
(07:55:32 PM) JohnRobert: x86
(07:55:33 PM) thomasgilling: apt-get install hardinfo
(07:55:35 PM) thomasgilling: is good
(07:55:36 PM) agamotto: I plan on XP being my last Windows, even for games
(07:55:45 PM) GoodGuy: Probably have to download chipset drivers from Intel
(07:55:49 PM) ajamison5579: not for long MS announced ending support for XP soon
(07:55:49 PM) underdog512: its probably a IP addressing problem
(07:55:50 PM) Crewsr3: I'm getting the feeling that Carrie does not want to take my questions about Robbie and the ubuntu "user" loco group
(07:56:01 PM) Davey_Speedstar: Robbie: don't forget Joomla Widgets
(07:56:02 PM) GoodGuy: They extended it again last I heard
(07:56:02 PM) JohnRobert: good luck, microsoft's directx will probably only be for newer version of windows
(07:56:06 PM) thomasgilling: why agamotto?
(07:56:09 PM) underdog512: Robbie: its probably a IP addressing problem
(07:56:14 PM) JohnRobert: and that'll force you to upgrade if you want to play newer games
(07:56:20 PM) munzy: yes ubuntu and xp
(07:56:23 PM) GoodGuy: Directx 10 and above will
(07:56:25 PM) JohnRobert: it's a shame game developers use directx
(07:56:29 PM) agamotto: Tired of beta testing OS for m$, and paying for the priviledge
(07:56:49 PM) Dosbomber: DirectX 11 is supposed to come out with Win7
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(07:56:56 PM) GoodGuy: Game developers dont want to lose half the buyers, so they write it for both versions
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(07:57:11 PM) Jot: works in internet-explorer as well
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(07:57:18 PM) Cliff_H: Good
(07:57:20 PM) GoodGuy: DOS was what it was like w/o DirectX
(07:57:21 PM) thomasgilling: cmd click does the same
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(07:57:38 PM) thomasgilling: or ctrl click for Windows users
(07:57:42 PM) agamotto: With any luck, pretty soon, i will be able to use Wine, as I am not much of a gamer.
(07:57:50 PM) munzy: agamotto well said!
(07:57:53 PM) JohnRobert: ctrl+shift+t is a useful firefox shortcut, bring back last closed tab
(07:57:56 PM) GoodGuy: What about Cedega?
(07:57:57 PM) Cliff_H: Needer am I, Aga
(07:58:14 PM) Dosbomber: I guess you had to write drivers for all available hardware into the software itself.
(07:58:18 PM) GoodGuy: Also run games in a VM?
(07:58:23 PM) ajamison5579: lol Linux has no BSOD
(07:58:26 PM) Crewsr3: did mac world start today?
(07:58:30 PM) thomasgilling: yes
(07:58:33 PM) JohnRobert: the new version of virtualbox has opengl support
(07:58:35 PM) Cliff_H: Next week ..... Slip Stream ???
(07:58:39 PM) thomasgilling: New iTunes with no DRM
(07:58:40 PM) agamotto: I tried Cedega, but Civ4 and Obilivion didn't run as smooth as in Windows, so I gave up on it
(07:58:41 PM) JohnRobert: so if you're a game player, I recommend you try it.
(07:58:41 PM) PABLO: gOOD JOB
(07:58:49 PM) PABLO: wELL DONE !!
(07:58:54 PM) Crewsr3: CarrieW, LOL I love robbies answers
(07:58:55 PM) Davey_Speedstar: wah - no widget
(07:59:01 PM) GoodGuy: Are you familiar with nLite Cliff_H?
(07:59:02 PM) underdog512: Robbie: are you a member in Ubuntu forums?
(07:59:07 PM) Cliff_H: No
(07:59:07 PM) blpjr: are you beta tesers?
(07:59:12 PM) thomasgilling: I can make a make do widget
(07:59:16 PM) Jot: Carrie, please hit robbie or something, for being a meanie
(07:59:20 PM) Cliff_H: No Good Guy
(07:59:20 PM) GoodGuy: It slipstreams in a few secs
(07:59:21 PM) blpjr: testers?
(07:59:28 PM) GoodGuy: Its a no brainer
(07:59:29 PM) JohnRobert: Robbie is a meanie.
(07:59:30 PM) JohnRobert: :p
(07:59:34 PM) agamotto: Nah, just put a hairball in his coffee
(07:59:34 PM) GoodGuy: Hold on a sec
(07:59:39 PM) blpjr: sure you do?
(07:59:43 PM) Crewsr3: another great show@
(07:59:43 PM) PABLO: Robbie!! Good program again! Your mom is so proud!!
(07:59:43 PM) Cliff_H: I'll keep that in mind to look up
(07:59:55 PM) Dosbomber: agamotto: That'd be an instant gag reaction. :P
(07:59:57 PM) Jot: happy new year Robbie and Carrie
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(07:59:58 PM) JohnRobert: 7 days in here.
(07:59:59 PM) Jot: and everybody else :P
(08:00:01 PM) Cliff_H: Great show again you two WTG@!
(08:00:14 PM) raptor222: all the best for 2009
(08:00:15 PM) ***agamotto trips out to the music
(08:00:17 PM) GoodGuy: http://www.nliteos.com/
(08:00:17 PM) JohnRobert: I must check out the earlier eps
(08:00:25 PM) JohnRobert: nlite is awesome
(08:00:27 PM) Jot: you can download the music somewhere on the site I think
(08:00:33 PM) GoodGuy: It can do way more than just slipstream
(08:00:42 PM) Cliff_H: Thanks Robbie & Carrie
(08:00:46 PM) JohnRobert: cheers guys
(08:00:47 PM) GoodGuy: Build in all your drivers, add all updates, etc
(08:00:50 PM) Crewsr3: Its back stage time!
(08:01:07 PM) Jot: I got both backstage and frontview on in seperate windows :)
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(08:01:08 PM) underdog512: Robbie: are you a member in Ubuntu forums?
(08:01:12 PM) Cliff_H: I will definitely check it out
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(08:01:18 PM) agamotto: I just prefer image backups.... I don't have to waste time keeping track of stuff that way
(08:01:23 PM) GoodGuy: Even include additional software
(08:01:30 PM) GoodGuy: Winaddons.com
(08:01:38 PM) munzy: its's been a pleasure bye all!
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(08:01:38 PM) Cliff_H: Sounds like what I'm looking for then
(08:01:43 PM) GoodGuy: They also have a VLite
(08:01:43 PM) thomasgilling: See you
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(08:01:48 PM) techgecko: Thanks Robbie Carrie and Crew - another good show