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(06:46:59 PM) The topic for #Category5-Technology-TV0 is: www.Category5.TV - Tonight: The basics of The GiMP (a free alternative to Photoshop). Announcing Entropia Universe Scavenger Hunt. Don't miss it!
(06:46:59 PM) mode (+o Robbie) by chat2.ustream.tv
(06:47:31 PM) onewanman: what is this error?
(06:47:32 PM) onewanman: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/etch.list/dists/-O//etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list/binary-
(06:47:50 PM) Kaczus [kaczus@dev-A831B0D8.chello.pl] entered the room.
(06:47:53 PM) Robbie: onewanman; wanna ask once the show starts?
(06:48:05 PM) onewanman: ok
(06:48:28 PM) CarrieW: Hey filkay! Nice to see you here!
(06:48:28 PM) popey: Robbie: do you prefer other people not to provide answers here then :)
(06:48:30 PM) chaslinux: onewanman: software often gets signed when it's released so you know it comes from a legit source... often it's signed with GPG
(06:48:40 PM) ustreamer-14169 [ustreamer-@dev-B4C4C048.eugn.qwest.net] entered the room.
(06:48:53 PM) rd_blair: Hi Everybody Anybody know to reset the compiz settings?
(06:48:56 PM) chaslinux: Robbie will probably elaborate more.
(06:49:10 PM) onewanman: ok
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(06:49:18 PM) popey: gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 58403026387EE263
(06:49:21 PM) popey: gpg --export --armor 58403026387EE263 | sudo apt-key add -
(06:49:27 PM) popey: @ onewanman
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(06:49:39 PM) popey: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=560968 detailed in that thread
(06:49:47 PM) ustreamer-93301: how do you change your name here?
(06:49:47 PM) chaslinux: But the idea is to get software only from trusted sources.
(06:49:49 PM) mbhavaraju: I think connection is lot better now
(06:49:49 PM) onewanman: thanks looking now
(06:50:00 PM) chaslinux: ustreamer just /nick and nicname
(06:50:04 PM) chaslinux: nickname
(06:50:06 PM) popey: chaslinux: tricky defining what is a trusted source really
(06:50:09 PM) mbhavaraju: type as is /nick whatevernameyouwant
(06:50:20 PM) popey: especially when someone hacks a repo :(
(06:50:28 PM) ustreamer-48856 [ustreamer-@dev-F0EC18B.net202.skekraft.net] entered the room.
(06:50:29 PM) chaslinux: popey: very true.
(06:50:29 PM) ustreamer-93301 is now known as Haxtor_Moogle
(06:50:38 PM) ustreamer-48856 is now known as Mdemi
(06:50:42 PM) Mdemi: hi everyone
(06:50:43 PM) chaslinux: Red Hat..
(06:50:51 PM) ustreamer-14169: hello
(06:50:53 PM) popey: i didnt want to name names ;)
(06:51:03 PM) ustreamer-14169 is now known as chris-265
(06:51:13 PM) chaslinux: Well they've been good for so long it's time something happened...
(06:51:22 PM) chris-265: and hi again, with a name :)
(06:51:23 PM) popey: keeps everyone on their toes
(06:51:28 PM) popey: hic chris-265
(06:52:09 PM) chaslinux: Software Freedom day is coming up, Sept. 20th...
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(06:52:26 PM) popey: yeah, I'm sponsoring an event local to me.. should be fun
(06:52:39 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: a holiday on the weekend? what a waste
(06:52:52 PM) chaslinux: Holiday?
(06:53:04 PM) popey: it's not a holiday, it's a celebration :)
(06:53:14 PM) popey: http://softwarefreedomday.org/
(06:53:50 PM) chaslinux: popey: yeah we're gearing up to have an installfest... downloaded about 40 distributions for the event.
(06:53:56 PM) popey: heh
(06:54:01 PM) popey: man! that's a lot of distros!
(06:54:32 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: all linux?
(06:54:32 PM) chaslinux: Well we also house a LUG library... so...
(06:54:49 PM) chaslinux: Divine: A couple of BSD's...
(06:54:51 PM) popey: never thought of that - you could give away *BSD too couldn't yuou :)
(06:54:57 PM) popey: and the open cd for windows
(06:55:05 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: OpenSolaris?
(06:55:15 PM) popey: OpenSlowlaris
(06:55:16 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: If your playing entropia dont try going to port atlantis. server crashed
(06:55:16 PM) chaslinux: No, but that's an idea.
(06:55:26 PM) ustreamer-34786 [ustreamer-@dev-76360AAD.lbinternet.se] entered the room.
(06:55:37 PM) Jot: lol, we know moogle
(06:55:40 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: Haxtor, you noob, you *can't* even try to TP into PA
(06:55:53 PM) chaslinux: None of us has experience with OpenSolaris... I've worked with Solaris 9 on Sun Ultras, but that's about it...
(06:55:56 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: OpenVMS hobbyist? ROFL
(06:55:57 PM) Jot: can't login either etc
(06:56:06 PM) popey: that's very niche!
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(06:56:25 PM) ustreamer-87966 is now known as roadrash
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(06:56:31 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: I love Sun... they did a promotion where they sent out free DVDs a year or two ago... free shipping and everything
(06:56:35 PM) ustreamer-3080 is now known as Ross-1454
(06:56:38 PM) chaslinux: I bought an Ultra 2 Enterprise on ebay for $20 plus $20 to ship it...
(06:56:48 PM) roadrash: just making sure I'm up and running
(06:56:56 PM) roadrash: Hello everyone
(06:57:04 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: just because my AlphaServers are niche doesn't mean they're not badass
(06:57:05 PM) popey: my next door neighbour is a sun developer - they have an office near me - we are always teasing eachother
(06:57:16 PM) popey: he emails me bad news stories about linux, and i do the same to him about sun :)
(06:57:16 PM) Mdemi: hi roadrash
(06:57:22 PM) CarrieW: Welcome to anyone just joining us in ther chat room for the first time! If you have a question for Robbie, please start your question with "Robbie" or "Carrie" that way I know which line to read on the air. Thanks!
(06:57:22 PM) filkay: We still have a DEC running at work.
(06:57:28 PM) mbhavaraju: I am never been so happy in my life in terms of using OS.. After installing UBUNTU
(06:57:29 PM) filkay: Its on its last legs, though.
(06:57:35 PM) mbhavaraju: Thanks to Robbie
(06:57:40 PM) roadrash is now known as eric-8560
(06:57:41 PM) popey: mbhavaraju: yay!
(06:57:41 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: what kind? where at?
(06:57:49 PM) eric-8560: okay, I'm going to use my actual name..
(06:57:50 PM) chaslinux: Divide: that's cool... yeah the Ultra 2 was dog slow... I had 2GB of RAM in it, but 2 x 200MHz UltraSparc processors... lol
(06:57:53 PM) ustreamer-34786 is now known as micke
(06:58:02 PM) mbhavaraju: thanks popey
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(06:58:09 PM) chaslinux: Divine: sorry...
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(06:58:23 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: i have 3 gigs of ram, with 4 x 433 MHz alpha 21164 processors, with 4 megs cache each
(06:58:35 PM) ustreamer-48094: greetings everyone
(06:58:48 PM) popey: my friend has an old DEC Alpha from work
(06:58:53 PM) chaslinux: That's neat.... I bet its faster with that much cache.
(06:58:54 PM) popey: his wife dries clothes on it
(06:58:55 PM) ustreamer-36194 [ustreamer-@dev-80B77FE5.aep.bellsouth.net] entered the room.
(06:58:57 PM) eric-8560: I have 384mb and barely use most of it.. I feel inadequate now
(06:59:10 PM) mbhavaraju: ha ha ha popey
(06:59:14 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: dunno... can't run linux or BSD on it... have to run NT 4. =\
(06:59:17 PM) Jot: it's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it
(06:59:22 PM) chaslinux: eric: just do some video editing and you'll use it ;-)
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(06:59:32 PM) popey: NT4 Alpha.. retro!
(06:59:33 PM) eric-8560: oh yeah, I agree there chas..
(06:59:34 PM) warcow105 [mike@dev-86EBF290.dyn.optonline.net] entered the room.
(06:59:35 PM) popey: and uber niche
(06:59:37 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: it *IS* the size when you ship it across country. lol
(06:59:39 PM) ustreamer-48094: anyone else @ Twin atm ? :D
(06:59:42 PM) eric-8560: I don't do video stuff..
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(07:00:03 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: there's no Linux/BSD support for my RAID card
(07:00:04 PM) Jot: I wouldn't know 48094, can't log in
(07:00:08 PM) ustreamer-63953: hi
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(07:00:12 PM) Thelone: here comes the SHOW :)
(07:00:12 PM) mbhavaraju [ustreamer-@dev-CD10D004.tx.res.rr.com] entered the room.
(07:00:12 PM) mode (+v mbhavaraju) by c.ustream.tv
(07:00:15 PM) popey: oooo sound
(07:00:16 PM) ustreamer-29133 [ustreamer-@dev-AD48BC5A.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] entered the room.
(07:00:20 PM) chaslinux: One of my friends has a tandem in his folk's garage... don't know why he keeps it other than it was in a bank...
(07:00:22 PM) ustreamer-63953: how can i chnage nick?
(07:00:22 PM) ustreamer-48094: selling ME @ boxes haha
(07:00:24 PM) ustreamer-19722 [ustreamer-@dev-713BDD22.cable.ubr08.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] entered the room.
(07:00:28 PM) popey: ustreamer-48094: /nick name
(07:00:33 PM) ustreamer-29133 is now known as Fraggan
(07:00:33 PM) ustreamer-91987 [ustreamer-@dev-26761998.home1.cgocable.net] entered the room.
(07:00:38 PM) Jot: type /nick name to change your nick to name
(07:00:41 PM) ustreamer-63953 is now known as name-856
(07:00:43 PM) name-856: HI
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(07:00:46 PM) name-856: eh
(07:00:50 PM) ustreamer-48094 is now known as Dex-2146
(07:00:56 PM) ustreamer-19722 is now known as name-697
(07:00:56 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: some of us like collecting old super computers
(07:00:58 PM) Dex-2146: wuuut
(07:00:58 PM) name-856 is now known as NEVERDIE
(07:01:01 PM) NEVERDIE: hi
(07:01:02 PM) name-697: Jamhot
(07:01:03 PM) NEVERDIE: hahaah
(07:01:05 PM) Jot: Carrie, EU is down so people can not get in
(07:01:06 PM) name-697: lol
(07:01:06 PM) Jot: hi ND
(07:01:09 PM) name-697: Hey
(07:01:16 PM) NEVERDIE: ty all for watching
(07:01:17 PM) name-697 is now known as name-8568
(07:01:21 PM) name-8568: aaah
(07:01:22 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: hey ND
(07:01:25 PM) Dex-2146: hehe
(07:01:27 PM) Jot: type /nick jamhot to make your nick jamhot
(07:01:27 PM) NEVERDIE: ok i k=now give u all 10000000 million ped
(07:01:28 PM) Thelone: raah my name sounds awful :p
(07:01:29 PM) NEVERDIE: ahhaha
(07:01:32 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: <---- told Robbie to contact JamHot. lol
(07:01:38 PM) Dex-2146: nice
(07:01:40 PM) ustreamer-55447 is now known as MindBuster
(07:01:49 PM) Dex-2146: i just want an appartment @ cnd and im happy
(07:01:49 PM) name-8568: i'm here
(07:01:50 PM) MindBuster: sup n00bs
(07:01:51 PM) chris-265 left the room (quit: Ping timeout).
(07:01:56 PM) name-8568: can't change my nick
(07:01:57 PM) Jot: Robbie, Carrie, EU servers are not cooperating so many people can not login
(07:02:03 PM) name-8568: <----n00b Jamhot
(07:02:05 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: you're the noob... i've been here longer. lol
(07:02:05 PM) popey: Robbie: your camera seems a bit off to one side.. nice though that plant is :)
(07:02:14 PM) Jot: jamhot, type /nick jamhot
(07:02:21 PM) Dex-2146: btw 2 unL weapons again today in one loot window! pffft
(07:02:22 PM) name-8568 is now known as Jamhot
(07:02:23 PM) ustreamer-91987: surprise suprise my vista machine crashed
(07:02:27 PM) NEVERDIE is now known as Robbie-4859
(07:02:27 PM) Jamhot: that better?
(07:02:28 PM) Robbie-4859: hi
(07:02:30 PM) Jamhot: heeeeey
(07:02:32 PM) Jot: very good!
(07:02:34 PM) ustreamer-91987: sweeet i'm only 2hrs from barrie
(07:02:35 PM) Jamhot: :)
(07:02:36 PM) Robbie-4859 is now known as NEVERDIE
(07:02:43 PM) eric-8560: Canada.. Loft apartment over a really great party.. Robin Williams.. It's a joke I had to mention
(07:02:43 PM) NEVERDIE: hio jamhot
(07:02:47 PM) Fraggan: i'm like 2 days from barrie :P
(07:02:47 PM) Jamhot: hiys ND
(07:02:48 PM) ustreamer-91987: hey ND
(07:02:49 PM) ustreamer-80265 [ustreamer-@dev-1CD44E92.dsl.bell.ca] entered the room.
(07:02:51 PM) NEVERDIE: hahaha
(07:02:56 PM) popey: nice printer
(07:03:00 PM) Jamhot: hehehe
(07:03:03 PM) popey: does it work with linux :)
(07:03:06 PM) Dosbomber: Page size on that printer?
(07:03:13 PM) Jot: Can I loot that printer in EU?
(07:03:16 PM) ustreamer-91987: oh i could use that
(07:03:22 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: ooooh... i NEED a new PSU for my server!
(07:03:22 PM) ustreamer-87598 [ustreamer-@dev-6BD0C577.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entered the room.
(07:03:24 PM) ustreamer-91987 is now known as RexDameon
(07:03:35 PM) RexDameon: ahh thats better
(07:03:39 PM) popey: Printers are not for making output, they are devices for causing me pain.
(07:03:44 PM) ustreamer-22775 [ustreamer-@dev-E06A5CDE.balt.east.verizon.net] entered the room.
(07:03:46 PM) Fraggan: like 2 days with airplane :P
(07:03:47 PM) NEVERDIE: i want to trdae 100 sweat for that printer
(07:03:50 PM) micke: send that printer to sweden
(07:03:52 PM) NEVERDIE: is it ok
(07:03:52 PM) Jamhot: :)
(07:03:54 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: Printer Cost < Gas Cost
(07:03:54 PM) Dex-2146: i bid 101 :D
(07:03:58 PM) RexDameon: moogle you can come and crash at my place
(07:04:00 PM) Dosbomber: Where are you, on the moon?
(07:04:00 PM) NEVERDIE: lest bid
(07:04:06 PM) ustreamer-92880 [ustreamer-@dev-BFCBFD7.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] entered the room.
(07:04:09 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: :)
(07:04:13 PM) Jot: ND, 100 sweat is okay, but it has to be special atrax sweat. Not atrox sweat
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(07:04:22 PM) eric-8560: is robbie familiar with XFCE at all or XUbuntu more accurately
(07:04:31 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate: i wonder how much of that is the 47.5k i sold ND. lol
(07:04:37 PM) chaslinux: Robbie: there was that GPG question
(07:04:40 PM) DivineSlinkyIncarnate is now known as Slinky-4720
(07:04:48 PM) popey: Robbie: bet his /etc/fstab is missing a line
(07:04:51 PM) alexander: fstab in uidd
(07:04:53 PM) Thelone: i'm there robbie ;)
(07:04:55 PM) ustreamer-22775: Is there any desktop that will allow me to backup a wordpress blog?
(07:04:56 PM) ustreamer-379 is now known as Faalagorn
(07:05:21 PM) CarrieW: Thelone is Arnaud?
(07:05:26 PM) Thelone: yep ;)
(07:05:30 PM) CarrieW: good!
(07:05:34 PM) eric-8560: whoa.. he changed his theme..
(07:05:41 PM) ustreamer-22775: I mean desktop program.
(07:05:45 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: no password lol
(07:05:51 PM) alexander: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Swap?highlight=swap#Swap-Partition-nachtraeglich-erstellen
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(07:06:12 PM) alexander: oh only german....
(07:06:27 PM) Dex-2146: tja pech
(07:06:45 PM) eric-8560: he might be in his sudo timeout limit.
(07:06:51 PM) Slinky-4720: Robbie, I found a MMORPG that runs natively in linux... sort of
(07:07:03 PM) Fraggan: slinky: for free?
(07:07:10 PM) ustreamer-72236 [ustreamer-@dev-DAFE3741.bb.sky.com] entered the room.
(07:07:19 PM) Slinky-4720: just have to buy the game. online play is free
(07:07:23 PM) Jot: ND, Jamhot, Moogle, somebody wake up Marco and tell him to kick the server to start it
(07:07:25 PM) Fraggan: ok
(07:07:46 PM) Faalagorn: Linux MMO? EL? Ethernal Lands?
(07:07:47 PM) Jamhot: start what? , what did i miss?
(07:07:57 PM) chaslinux: slinky: Ever tried TMW? The Mana World...
(07:07:57 PM) eric-8560: this real-time thing is sorta <censored> me out..
(07:08:05 PM) Slinky-4720: Neverwinter Nights can be run natively in Linux, and users have set up "Persinstant Worlds" that are basically small MMORPGs
(07:08:06 PM) Jamhot: i'm sorry i'm a technical neanderthal this stuff is like zoooooom over my head
(07:08:08 PM) NEVERDIE is now known as faalagorn2
(07:08:09 PM) Jot: Port Atlantis server is not responding
(07:08:11 PM) Dex-2146: lol he loves u ND :D
(07:08:16 PM) chaslinux: Robbie: There was that GPG question
(07:08:17 PM) Dex-2146: saw his smile
(07:08:26 PM) Dex-2146: hahaha
(07:08:43 PM) faalagorn2: hi my name is faalagorn
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(07:08:49 PM) CarrieW: send that question again chaslinux
(07:08:49 PM) ustreamer-39628 [ustreamer-@dev-43DFA958.adsl.tele2.no] entered the room.
(07:08:50 PM) Jamhot: really
(07:08:51 PM) Jot: Robbie, Port Atlantis server is down so many people can not log into EU
(07:08:59 PM) Faalagorn: But I'm the real one :P
(07:09:03 PM) ustreamer-87598: yeah, EU login is down
(07:09:06 PM) Jamhot: surprised it's not transferring people to other servers/
(07:09:08 PM) faalagorn2: eh
(07:09:09 PM) Faalagorn: Any1 knows me xDxDxD?
(07:09:21 PM) faalagorn2: there's a colne of me
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(07:09:28 PM) Slinky-4720: If you logged out in PA, you're boned dude
(07:09:31 PM) Thelone: Robbie sorry, what's the first command again (bd-something) ?
(07:09:37 PM) Jamhot: bummere
(07:09:45 PM) ustreamer-87598: I'm boned
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(07:09:47 PM) popey: Robbie: the question was about wine repo
(07:09:47 PM) ustreamer-14027 [ustreamer-@dev-1CD44E92.dsl.bell.ca] entered the room.
(07:09:47 PM) Slinky-4720: i said "BONED"!!
(07:09:47 PM) chaslinux: It was the GPG question about validating repos.
(07:09:50 PM) Slinky-4720: lol
(07:09:51 PM) Jamhot: i laways log out in NewOxford ;)
(07:09:53 PM) popey: Robbie: from onewanman
(07:09:54 PM) Jot: Robbie, currently it just stays stuck on authorizing
(07:10:00 PM) Dex-2146: argus FTW
(07:10:01 PM) popey: 23:47:32 < onewanman> GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263Failed to
(07:10:06 PM) popey: fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/etch.list/dists/-O//etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list/binary-
(07:10:12 PM) RexDameon: what graphics card does she have? intel i bet
(07:10:18 PM) chaslinux: Thanks popey
(07:10:22 PM) Slinky-4720: Carrie, it sounds like your PC needs better graphics
(07:10:23 PM) onewanman: her it is
(07:10:23 PM) eric-8560: Carrie, do you use WIndows ?
(07:10:26 PM) onewanman: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/etch.list/dists/-O//etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list/binary-
(07:10:32 PM) popey: Robbie: ^^
(07:10:33 PM) Jot: Carrie, lower the visual details in the options in the client-loader completely
(07:10:35 PM) RexDameon: Carrie do you have an intel grahics card?
(07:10:36 PM) ustreamer-14169 [ustreamer-@dev-8F5B9AF6.eugn.qwest.net] entered the room.
(07:10:36 PM) Jamhot: I actually run EntropiaUniverse on Vista which i heard stated ina previous show wouldn't run EU , on the contrary
(07:10:50 PM) Jot: Carrie, untill you leave the room, you can always come back and change yourself
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(07:11:03 PM) CarrieW: thanks for the tips!
(07:11:03 PM) ustreamer-14169 is now known as Chris-8896
(07:11:05 PM) Jot: Jamhot, Robbie knows but you can not say that on the air
(07:11:08 PM) Fraggan: Ey Robbie: I've a problem with my sound in ubuntu 64. I can't play more than one sound at the time. It says that my soundcard is occupied, suggestions?
(07:11:10 PM) ustreamer-16949 [ustreamer-@dev-DAFE3741.bb.sky.com] entered the room.
(07:11:16 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: He said my name!! ^_^
(07:11:20 PM) Chris-8896: lol
(07:11:25 PM) RexDameon: lolz
(07:11:45 PM) ajamison [andy@dev-40185F54.dsl.tc3net.com] entered the room.
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(07:11:49 PM) Jamhot: Robbie the Reseller
(07:11:52 PM) Dex-2146: lol
(07:11:53 PM) MindBuster: lol
(07:11:57 PM) Ross-1454: hey haxtor :) its cosmic, we met in eu the other day
(07:11:57 PM) Jot: If you watched the special EU broadcast a few weeks ago, you could have stared at my ass for a few hours too :)
(07:11:58 PM) ustreamer-14027: :P
(07:11:59 PM) RexDameon: haha thats to funny
(07:11:59 PM) Jamhot: :D
(07:11:59 PM) Dex-2146: dont spend all at once :D
(07:12:09 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: oh hi :)
(07:12:11 PM) eric-8560: I'm glad this only lasts an hour on this night alone.. Cubbies are playing at 8
(07:12:21 PM) Chris-8896 is now known as domchristopher-5619
(07:12:27 PM) Ross-1454: lol that suits sweet
(07:12:28 PM) faalagorn2: robbie says u name jamhot
(07:12:31 PM) Faalagorn: sure :)
(07:12:34 PM) faalagorn2: u should be glad
(07:12:36 PM) RexDameon: he does look pretty good in that outfit moogle easyer to find him now
(07:12:40 PM) Faalagorn: Any info on Cry2 will be gr8
(07:12:49 PM) Jot: everybody confuses him for moogle now
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(07:12:52 PM) Slinky-4720: so who is putting up this 1000 ped prize?
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(07:13:09 PM) RexDameon: i think he said MA is
(07:13:09 PM) Faalagorn: Graphics are from 2k3 xD
(07:13:10 PM) eric-8560: I'm a noob for everything.. I have a PS2 and only play baseball. Yes, I am a loser
(07:13:25 PM) faalagorn2: we know eric 8560
(07:13:30 PM) Faalagorn: Those are all seen in New Oxford ^^
(07:13:35 PM) Faalagorn: or in page
(07:13:36 PM) eric-8560: thanks man.. appreciate it.
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(07:13:41 PM) faalagorn2: yw
(07:13:43 PM) Slinky-4720: Robbie will have 2 more children before CryEngine2 goes live. lol
(07:13:49 PM) domchristopher-5619: lol
(07:13:49 PM) Dex-2146: haha
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(07:13:53 PM) Faalagorn: xD
(07:14:00 PM) ajamison: the new version looks nice
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(07:14:05 PM) Jot: Robbie, You can see a moving part of Cryengine 2 on the video on the left on www.nextisland.com
(07:14:12 PM) Fraggan: x86_64
(07:14:19 PM) popey: studio64
(07:14:27 PM) chaslinux: I like The Mana World, it's simple, anime characters, runs natively on Linux: http://themanaworld.org/
(07:14:29 PM) eric-8560: alsa?
(07:14:31 PM) Jamhot: What's this ubuntu you speak of, sounds like voodoo to me
(07:14:31 PM) Slinky-4720: i hope MA also implements the "Thriller" dance. lol
(07:14:35 PM) Fraggan: just ubuntu 8.10 64bits
(07:14:39 PM) Jamhot: electrickery
(07:14:43 PM) Thelone: remove pulseaudio
(07:14:43 PM) RexDameon: ubuntu is linux OS
(07:14:47 PM) popey: Ubuntu Studio uses Jackd
(07:14:50 PM) filkay: esound
(07:14:55 PM) Fraggan: yes
(07:14:57 PM) filkay: esd?
(07:14:59 PM) popey: there is a jack connection kit
(07:15:02 PM) eric-8560: we need to know the version of ubuntu.
(07:15:05 PM) chaslinux: Pulseaudio
(07:15:07 PM) popey: which should let you manipulate sound sources
(07:15:25 PM) Fraggan: in sound preferences it says ALSA
(07:15:33 PM) alexander: doesn't run pulseaudio and alsa at the same time?
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(07:15:34 PM) faalagorn2: give fraggan a space to explain
(07:15:39 PM) warcow105: if jack has it, it wont let others use it...unless they are also using jack....i think
(07:15:40 PM) popey: 64-bit and 32-bit are the same in this area
(07:15:45 PM) faalagorn2: it looks kinds of messy with all chatting here
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(07:16:06 PM) Fraggan: bummer :D
(07:16:17 PM) popey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems is a good place to start
(07:16:23 PM) chaslinux: Fraggan: I found this too.. for example listening to the show and trying to call in on Skype.
(07:16:25 PM) Fraggan: ok
(07:16:33 PM) popey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting is also
(07:16:35 PM) popey: useful
(07:16:39 PM) Fraggan: thnx popey
(07:16:42 PM) popey: np
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(07:17:12 PM) popey: otherwise, http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu and file a support request :)
(07:17:22 PM) Jamhot: hehe
(07:17:22 PM) RexDameon: it was Jamhot lol
(07:17:24 PM) Jamhot: hi
(07:17:30 PM) popey: 00:14:30 < Jamhot> What's this ubuntu you speak of, sounds like voodoo to me
(07:17:40 PM) xxUriahxx: the best OS
(07:17:45 PM) Slinky-4720: Ubuntu = Debian Linux based Linux OS
(07:17:46 PM) CarrieW: thanks
(07:17:46 PM) Faalagorn: It's an distribution of Linux ^^
(07:17:53 PM) faalagorn2: popey are u one of livetv crew also?
(07:17:55 PM) xxUriahxx: windows is bootleg
(07:18:04 PM) Slinky-4720: (although i prefer Fedora)
(07:18:05 PM) xxUriahxx: mac is bootleg too
(07:18:08 PM) popey: faalagorn2: nah, I am an ubuntu type :)
(07:18:10 PM) Jamhot: viva la resistance
(07:18:16 PM) popey: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu
(07:18:17 PM) Faalagorn: The other hand, there is no DirectX in Ubuntu, so not all games work :)
(07:18:26 PM) CarrieW: we like to stir the cyber pot!
(07:18:28 PM) Jot: No EU, so you don't care jamhot :)
(07:18:29 PM) Faalagorn: But the system itself it's better ^^
(07:18:33 PM) Slinky-4720: DirectX is windows only
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(07:18:39 PM) Faalagorn: yh
(07:18:40 PM) Slinky-4720: viva la OpenGL!
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(07:18:43 PM) Jamhot: yes thankyou
(07:18:44 PM) Faalagorn: sure ^^
(07:18:47 PM) mbhavaraju: I like that minimize and close graphics that you have Robbie
(07:18:48 PM) Jamhot: crystal
(07:18:50 PM) domchristopher-5619: Too bad the majority of applications don't run on linux or wine :P
(07:18:50 PM) eric-8560: clarify you're running compiz.. the default setup isn't that cool
(07:18:57 PM) ajamison: it manages resources much better then Windows
(07:19:03 PM) alexander: im too
(07:19:03 PM) RexDameon: thats why i watch this show to learn more about linux
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(07:19:13 PM) Jamhot: do software developers cater for ubuntu?
(07:19:23 PM) popey: Jamhot: some do, some dont :)
(07:19:25 PM) Slinky-4720: no Jamhot
(07:19:25 PM) warcow105: some cater to linux
(07:19:29 PM) xxUriahxx: some do
(07:19:32 PM) alexander: I cater to linux!
(07:19:34 PM) eric-8560: my dapper install has been up for 182 days..
(07:19:40 PM) Slinky-4720: if they cater, it's to Linux, not a specific distro
(07:19:42 PM) popey: some of the very large ones do.. IBM, Oracle, SAP etc do
(07:19:44 PM) eric-8560: can't do that in Windows
(07:19:47 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: Hi robbie! :)
(07:20:09 PM) xxUriahxx: open office
(07:20:11 PM) chinkink: Hello, Robbie! It's Abi.
(07:20:13 PM) xxUriahxx: thunderbird
(07:20:16 PM) xxUriahxx: pidgin
(07:20:25 PM) alexander: miro
(07:20:26 PM) Jamhot: video editing?
(07:20:27 PM) xxUriahxx: miro
(07:20:31 PM) Jamhot: photoshopping?
(07:20:32 PM) xxUriahxx: lol
(07:20:34 PM) popey: IBM just released Symphony for Linux
(07:20:35 PM) micke: songbird
(07:20:36 PM) Slinky-4720: apache!
(07:20:41 PM) Jot: can use gimp for photoshopping
(07:20:42 PM) Mdemi: kino?
(07:20:46 PM) xxUriahxx: cinelerra robbie
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(07:20:47 PM) Faalagorn: yes, you can
(07:20:49 PM) filkay: cinellerra
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(07:20:53 PM) xxUriahxx: yeah
(07:20:54 PM) chaslinux: Miro ;-)
(07:20:55 PM) eric-8560: all of those programs mozilla firefox and thunderbird, openoffice, gimp.. can all be used in Windows
(07:20:57 PM) Jamhot: thankyou
(07:20:58 PM) Faalagorn: GIMP is the same type of programme as Photoshop
(07:21:01 PM) xxUriahxx: no prob
(07:21:03 PM) Jamhot: nice link there then ;)
(07:21:06 PM) eric-8560: so you can try them before making the switch
(07:21:07 PM) RexDameon: Gimp?
(07:21:17 PM) Faalagorn: GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Problam
(07:21:19 PM) RexDameon: i meant is that what we're looking at
(07:21:21 PM) ustreamer-2822: y0 Jot
(07:21:25 PM) chaslinux: Miro is how I found Category5.tv ;-)
(07:21:25 PM) Jot: hi Jack
(07:21:29 PM) Faalagorn: typo xD
(07:21:30 PM) Faalagorn: xDxD
(07:21:30 PM) alexander: yes you can try them bevore
(07:21:31 PM) Slinky-4720: <---- wonders if any Unix versions of Photoshop will run in Linux
(07:21:33 PM) Jot: type /nick Jack to change your name
(07:21:37 PM) RexDameon: i like problam better
(07:21:40 PM) popey: there's also "gimpshop" which gives a photoshop style interface to gimp
(07:21:50 PM) popey: which is useful for people transitioning from photoshop to gimp
(07:21:51 PM) Dosbomber: Problam is a program running under Windows
(07:21:54 PM) faalagorn2: GIMP si free
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(07:21:57 PM) ustreamer-67340 is now known as ReadBird
(07:22:01 PM) JackAncientONeill: thx Jot
(07:22:01 PM) faalagorn2: photoshop u have to buy
(07:22:03 PM) faalagorn2: ehehe
(07:22:05 PM) Faalagorn: and Open Sourse, it's free also for companies
(07:22:09 PM) Faalagorn: Without limitations (any)
(07:22:18 PM) Jot: you're very welcome
(07:22:22 PM) popey: Xubuntu!
(07:22:22 PM) eric-8560: xubuntu?
(07:22:25 PM) RexDameon: Gimp has a very different way of operating then Photoshop or Photpaint
(07:22:25 PM) filkay: yep
(07:22:42 PM) ustreamer-92880: backtrack
(07:22:44 PM) ajamison: yes but it does not cost 500 like Photoshop
(07:22:48 PM) ustreamer-7096: use xubuntu in sted... ligther than ubuntu...
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(07:22:53 PM) eric-8560: zoobuntu? What's that?
(07:22:54 PM) popey: \o/
(07:22:59 PM) alexander: xubuntu
(07:23:00 PM) popey: Xubuntu not Zoobuntu
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(07:23:17 PM) popey: X being XFCE desktop environment rather than GNOME which Ubuntu comes with
(07:23:23 PM) Slinky-4720: it's ok, he said "weeekeeee" too. lol
(07:23:25 PM) popey: XFCE is a bit more lightweight than GNOME
(07:23:36 PM) monkeyluis: zoobuntu has the zoo theme
(07:23:36 PM) eric-8560: just a bit.. not much so anymore
(07:23:45 PM) popey: yeah
(07:23:52 PM) popey: got a bit of gnome bloat in it :S
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(07:24:00 PM) eric-8560: unfortunately, yes
(07:24:06 PM) popey: Crunchbang linux is good too - based on Ubuntu but uses openbox i think..
(07:24:13 PM) RexDameon: so who is here because of the Thread on Entropia Forum?
(07:24:16 PM) eric-8560: yeah, Crunch is pretty slick
(07:24:25 PM) ReadBird: me rex :)
(07:24:26 PM) Faalagorn: I am here bercasue of that (kinda)
(07:24:30 PM) Faalagorn: friend told me (faalagorn2)
(07:24:31 PM) eric-8560: Robbie, I have a question about a Toshiba laptop
(07:24:33 PM) Jot: you should ask, who is here for the money, Dex :)
(07:24:33 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: Port atlantis will be back up soon<-- says mindark Tech support
(07:24:40 PM) Faalagorn: Why there is down?
(07:24:43 PM) Jot: thanks Moogle
(07:24:45 PM) faalagorn2: selling sweat 1k for 6 ped @ chatbox
(07:24:46 PM) JackAncientONeill: nice one moogle
(07:24:50 PM) xxUriahxx: xcfc
(07:24:53 PM) Dex-2146: pffft
(07:25:01 PM) xxUriahxx: xfce sorry
(07:25:03 PM) ajamison: and edubuntu
(07:25:07 PM) Slinky-4720: isn't CE2 due soon too? LOL
(07:25:07 PM) domchristopher-5619: Haxtor, how do you know that?
(07:25:12 PM) ajamison: for schools
(07:25:19 PM) xxUriahxx: for older machine
(07:25:22 PM) Jot: somewhere in 2008, hopefully, otherwise beginning of 2009, slinky
(07:25:34 PM) mbhavaraju: what is intripid that you mentioned
(07:25:41 PM) PrivateTux: on one box I use enlightenment and it`s even ligther..
(07:25:41 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: I have some phonenumbers ;)
(07:25:43 PM) Slinky-4720: Jot, you completely missed that joke
(07:25:48 PM) ajamison: the new version of Ubuntu
(07:25:49 PM) xxUriahxx: new ubuntu raju
(07:25:51 PM) popey: mbhavaraju: intrepid is ubuntu version 8.10 due out at the end of october
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(07:25:54 PM) mbhavaraju: ok
(07:25:55 PM) RexDameon: Get on with GIMP i still struggle with that
(07:25:55 PM) monkeyluis: does carrie use ubuntu?
(07:25:59 PM) xxUriahxx: due out in october
(07:26:03 PM) Jot: Not everybody here knows about entropia universe, so I am trying to give good information for them
(07:26:04 PM) mbhavaraju: what is Hardy?
(07:26:09 PM) popey: mbhavaraju: version 8.04
(07:26:13 PM) popey: mbhavaraju: current version
(07:26:14 PM) mbhavaraju: ok
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(07:26:19 PM) xxUriahxx: another name for the 8.04 version
(07:26:19 PM) mbhavaraju: thanks
(07:26:21 PM) xxUriahxx: hardy heron
(07:26:30 PM) mbhavaraju: OK
(07:26:30 PM) popey: they have codenames..
(07:26:32 PM) eric-8560: Carrie, I have a Toshiba laptop question.. Xorg possibly
(07:26:32 PM) rd_blair: Robbie how do you reset compiz settings
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(07:26:39 PM) popey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
(07:26:50 PM) Faalagorn: So the Xubuntu is a... low resource-needing OS?
(07:26:54 PM) popey: hah. R is a few years off yet :)
(07:26:58 PM) Fraggan: ask the question eric we can try help you
(07:27:02 PM) Jot: It should be N00b Robbie
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(07:27:13 PM) Dex-2146: lol
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(07:27:30 PM) eric-8560: Well, OS installs fine.. however.. the letters are HUGE.. I mean like 100pts huge.. Can't see a darn thing
(07:27:34 PM) PrivateTux: enlightenment is the most ligth in my experience
(07:27:41 PM) Jot: Xubuntu is an X-windows-manager
(07:27:47 PM) eric-8560: It does this in Hardy, NOT in Dapper though..
(07:27:48 PM) Fraggan: what OS are you using?
(07:27:54 PM) Fraggan: ah ok
(07:27:54 PM) popey: Ubuntu R R would be out in 2013 :)
(07:28:00 PM) Jot: Ubunutu is the dame of a distribution
(07:28:02 PM) Jot: name*
(07:28:03 PM) monkeyluis: eric because you're system does not support the effects.
(07:28:06 PM) Faalagorn: thanks :)
(07:28:12 PM) Faalagorn: It makes sense xD
(07:28:14 PM) monkeyluis: turn them off and you'll be fine.
(07:28:29 PM) eric-8560: Seriously? Why does dapper work and not Hardy?
(07:28:30 PM) chaslinux: IceWM is pretty light....
(07:28:37 PM) mbhavaraju: I would say she graduated
(07:28:41 PM) popey: eric-8560: dapper is 6.06 - a couple of years older
(07:28:41 PM) ajamison: Robbie was secretly trying to make Carrie a Ubuntu user
(07:28:41 PM) filkay: I like icewm
(07:28:54 PM) Fraggan: the effects are default in hardy i think
(07:28:56 PM) Jot: no wonder EU doesn't run properly :P
(07:28:57 PM) xxUriahxx: yeah he was jamison
(07:28:58 PM) monkeyluis: eric, because those settings were set on by default in the past few recent versions.
(07:28:58 PM) Faalagorn: I would like to know a bit about GIMP :)
(07:28:58 PM) chaslinux: filkay: we used icewm for a distro we put together
(07:29:00 PM) xxUriahxx: hehe
(07:29:03 PM) faalagorn2: no idea
(07:29:07 PM) eric-8560: you mean I can't just rework some Xorg settings or something?
(07:29:15 PM) chaslinux: Ran on 486's with 16MB RAM and a 500MB HD
(07:29:18 PM) Faalagorn: & Windows too, if you are a Windows fan
(07:29:23 PM) Faalagorn: exactly :P
(07:29:24 PM) Jamhot: cool
(07:29:31 PM) popey: eric-8560: probably just the resolution is wrong - whatvideo card is it?
(07:29:35 PM) filkay: chas: nice
(07:29:38 PM) monkeyluis: maybe, not sure though.
(07:29:45 PM) monkeyluis: GIMP....great program.
(07:29:45 PM) eric-8560: grr.. it's Intel..
(07:29:50 PM) eric-8560: Ashamed to say it.
(07:29:55 PM) popey: eric-8560: no, thats good :)
(07:30:03 PM) Fraggan: try systems->preference->appearance->visualeffects and try click none
(07:30:09 PM) popey: Intel graphics have open source drivers :)
(07:30:24 PM) Dex-2146: nice to edit my global screens haha
(07:30:27 PM) chinkink: compared to photoshop, how good is GiMP?
(07:30:39 PM) popey: eric-8560: in Hardy you can actually remove/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it will work without one
(07:30:39 PM) eric-8560: yeah, why aren't they working by default
(07:30:39 PM) faalagorn2: gimp is lesser 690 usd
(07:30:41 PM) faalagorn2: hehe
(07:30:42 PM) chinkink: like does it offer the same features? or a bit less?
(07:30:44 PM) warcow105: depends on you needs
(07:30:47 PM) RexDameon: popey realy i wonder if an open sources driver may work better for Entropia.
(07:30:50 PM) xxUriahxx: gimp is free and really good
(07:30:52 PM) chinkink: non-professional
(07:30:53 PM) chaslinux: Actually it works in CMYK too
(07:30:58 PM) Dosbomber: Darn, I need CMYK for printable artwork for my company advertizing
(07:30:59 PM) popey: RexDameon: depends how intensive the 3d is
(07:31:05 PM) popey: RexDameon: I have not used EU myself
(07:31:17 PM) RexDameon: if you could get it to work and tell me how you'd be my hero
(07:31:20 PM) Jot: it needs directx 9 (latest) and physx drivers
(07:31:21 PM) popey: RexDameon: but yes, for really hardcore 3d stuff, use an nvidia or ati card
(07:31:30 PM) RexDameon: I can guarentee that Carrie has intel graphics
(07:31:31 PM) popey: RexDameon: what video card do you have?
(07:31:39 PM) RexDameon: everyone together ..... Awwwwwwww
(07:31:54 PM) CarrieW: chaslinux, GIMP works in CMKY?
(07:31:56 PM) chaslinux: CMYK support: http://registry.gimp.org/taxonomy/term/258
(07:32:01 PM) RexDameon: i've got nividea 6150 onboard <censored>
(07:32:14 PM) RexDameon: nvidia updated driver and works great now
(07:32:16 PM) popey: RexDameon: :) what OS? Ubuntu?
(07:32:20 PM) popey: nice
(07:32:22 PM) RexDameon: Vista
(07:32:24 PM) popey: ah
(07:32:25 PM) popey: :(
(07:32:29 PM) Faalagorn: Simple question, can you show the (one of easiest thing i think), deleting red eye effect?
(07:32:35 PM) ajamison: Pista
(07:32:37 PM) RexDameon: yea EU's new partnership with EU i think had a quick benefit for me
(07:32:43 PM) ajamison: i mean Vista
(07:33:08 PM) Fraggan: faalagorn: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Red_Eye_Removal/
(07:33:20 PM) RexDameon: When i get my wifes computer and can backup everything easy i think i'm gonna try and dualboot ubuntu just so i dont feel left out :-)
(07:33:24 PM) PrivateTux: I like meet the Gimp, show recorded in Germany, but in english..
(07:33:26 PM) chaslinux: Youtube has a tonne of Gimp tutorials
(07:33:27 PM) faalagorn2: is Ubuntus is better than Vista?
(07:33:37 PM) xxUriahxx: i believe so
(07:33:46 PM) Jot: Rex, you can download 'live' cds for ubuntu so you do not have to install it, most likely
(07:33:47 PM) popey: CarrieW: note for next week - perhaps robbie could use a larger mouse cursor, it's quite hard to see where he is pointing..
(07:33:48 PM) xxUriahxx: vista is bootleg,
(07:33:48 PM) Fraggan: if you dont play alot of games ubuntu rules :D
(07:33:50 PM) monkeyluis: yes faal
(07:34:00 PM) monkeyluis: consoles for games
(07:34:04 PM) PrivateTux: http://meetthegimp.org/
(07:34:08 PM) CarrieW: thanks popey, I'll mention it
(07:34:13 PM) Faalagorn: Ubuntu is better than Vista
(07:34:14 PM) Dex-2146: so EU isnt running on ubuntu :(
(07:34:17 PM) xxUriahxx: linux doesnt operate in root at all times, only when you have to do a major change
(07:34:22 PM) chaslinux: One word about Ubuntu vs. Vista: DRM
(07:34:25 PM) popey: Grokking The Gimp is a good free book about the GIMP - worth googling for :)
(07:34:36 PM) PrivateTux is now known as Private-8372
(07:34:36 PM) xxUriahxx: windows on the other hand operates as the admin most of the time
(07:34:38 PM) Mdemi: in future virtualbox with dxopengl wrapper then linux does all:P
(07:34:48 PM) ustreamer-72914 [ustreamer-@FF2F669C.19592014.AFE9486A.IP] entered the room.
(07:34:55 PM) popey: Mdemi: technically thats still windows in a vm
(07:34:57 PM) xxUriahxx: which makes it more suceptible to virus - much easier
(07:34:57 PM) eric-8560: as I'm streaming this video, is it normal for my CPU to be running at 77%?
(07:35:16 PM) ajamison: good pod cast for gimp www.meetthegimp.org
(07:35:18 PM) Slinky-4720: EU doesn't run on Ubuntu
(07:35:19 PM) Fraggan: Robbie: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Red_Eye_Removal/
(07:35:24 PM) warcow105: what os eric?
(07:35:29 PM) eric-8560: Hardy
(07:35:35 PM) RexDameon: Robbie: are there other free filters out there you can add to Gimp
(07:35:47 PM) Jot: Carrie, people can login to EU at this time, but not to the port-atlantis server, so they will be logged to another area
(07:36:07 PM) Fraggan: ops..
(07:36:18 PM) Faalagorn: xD
(07:36:20 PM) Jot: Carrie, Robbie, Port Atlantis is available again
(07:36:27 PM) Private-8372:
(07:36:30 PM) JackAncientONeill: when I try to log in, it doesnt offer to let me go to another server
(07:36:31 PM) Dex-2146: cool :D
(07:36:45 PM) warcow105: make sure your xorg settings are correct and you are using the best driver for your card. if some settings arent enables it uses cpu for video
(07:36:57 PM) faalagorn2: is there a relationship between this livetv and people in PA?
(07:37:02 PM) eric-8560: k, how do I do that
(07:37:07 PM) Jot: Robbie likes to hang out in PA
(07:37:09 PM) Private-8372: I can`t change my nick ! And I am useing /nick
(07:37:10 PM) warcow105: also a wimpy cpu might have issues decoding the video
(07:37:12 PM) faalagorn2: oh
(07:37:13 PM) eric-8560: I'm using XUbuntu with the Nvidia settings
(07:37:20 PM) Jot: private, type /nick name to change to name
(07:37:22 PM) mbhavaraju: can I take out my mustach in my photos? funny.. I just wana see how I look with out mustach
(07:37:26 PM) ustreamer-6627 [ustreamer-@dev-CCD9CA1.dhcp.snfr.nc.charter.com] entered the room.
(07:37:34 PM) monkeyluis: shave it?
(07:37:34 PM) Slinky-4720: shave dude
(07:37:35 PM) filkay: You could shave
(07:37:36 PM) faalagorn2: what robbie nikname by the way?
(07:37:42 PM) ustreamer-6627 is now known as thiebaude-3373
(07:37:42 PM) chaslinux: http://registry.gimp.org/
(07:37:50 PM) mbhavaraju: ha ha ha
(07:37:55 PM) micke: what happens with the originale photo
(07:37:55 PM) thiebaude-3373: hi everyone and robbie
(07:38:01 PM) Jot: Robbie category5 Ferguson
(07:38:03 PM) Slinky-4720: Robbie, PA is back up
(07:38:03 PM) chaslinux: That's the gimp plugin registry: http://registry.gimp.org/taxonomy/term/258
(07:38:13 PM) chaslinux: Oops minus the taxonomy
(07:38:15 PM) monkeyluis: he does actually
(07:38:15 PM) warcow105: eric, check if direct rendering is enabled under the opengl/glx info tab on nvidia settings
(07:38:18 PM) monkeyluis: wait till you get the pic
(07:38:50 PM) Private-8372: Ok... Can U people see my nick? I can`t see my nick
(07:38:58 PM) monkeyluis: no
(07:39:02 PM) faalagorn2: whose child is it?
(07:39:02 PM) mbhavaraju: cool..
(07:39:03 PM) thiebaude-3373: robbie:how do i change the 3373 beside my name
(07:39:04 PM) Private-8372: I get ustreamer-51902...
(07:39:08 PM) Dex-2146: lol nice
(07:39:10 PM) RexDameon: no says Private which is odd
(07:39:11 PM) faalagorn2: robbie daughter?
(07:39:15 PM) mbhavaraju: I like it..
(07:39:18 PM) CarrieW: yup
(07:39:20 PM) micke: carrie: what happens with the originale photo
(07:39:24 PM) Slinky-4720: Is robbie hiding evidence of child abuse? ROFL
(07:39:28 PM) Dosbomber: Smudging also takes out cracks and imperfections in old, damaged photos you've rescanned at a high resolution for reprinting in larger sizes.
(07:39:31 PM) JackAncientONeill: type /nick then name to change it
(07:39:33 PM) eric-8560: if direct rendering is enabled? good or bad?
(07:39:34 PM) popey: how on earth did Robbies genes produce a gorgeous little girl like that :)
(07:39:35 PM) chaslinux: thiebaudeL you have to register at ustream.tv to remove the number
(07:39:40 PM) warcow105: good
(07:39:49 PM) thiebaude-3373: k thanks chaslinux
(07:39:50 PM) faalagorn2: robbie want to change the child to cindy crawford i think
(07:39:52 PM) mbhavaraju: perfect
(07:39:54 PM) Private-8372 is now known as Private-859
(07:39:54 PM) Mdemi: clone tool without fails that healing tool cool:D
(07:39:57 PM) warcow105: why is it enabled
(07:40:14 PM) Private-859: hum...
(07:40:15 PM) thiebaude-3373: hi carrie
(07:40:34 PM) Private-859: Hum... /nick dosent work...
(07:40:49 PM) JackAncientONeill: doh
(07:41:05 PM) Faalagorn: type /nick YourNick
(07:41:13 PM) chinkink: if you make your changes on another layer than you can always just delete the layer if you dont like the changes
(07:41:32 PM) alexander: or just go back in the history
(07:41:39 PM) Fraggan: its always good to edit a photo in a different layer
(07:41:39 PM) chinkink: yah
(07:41:44 PM) chinkink: for sure
(07:41:45 PM) Private-859: I tried "/nick PrivateTux"... did not work...
(07:41:59 PM) micke: ok thanks
(07:42:01 PM) eric-8560: direct rendering is "yes".. is that because I"m running compositing on XUbuntu?
(07:42:11 PM) Dosbomber: Does GiMP use laye.... woot.. nevermind. Question answered.
(07:42:16 PM) Slinky-4720: layers? like the taco bell commercial?
(07:42:25 PM) Jot: Carrie, the port atlanits server has been kicked and people can log into entropia universe again
(07:42:29 PM) monkeyluis: whoa, fire
(07:42:33 PM) micke: hehe
(07:42:34 PM) Dosbomber: Layers... like an onion.
(07:42:34 PM) filkay: Or an ogre or an onion - layers
(07:42:46 PM) chinkink: oh my lol
(07:42:48 PM) popey: ogres have layers?
(07:42:49 PM) monkeyluis: an ogrey onion
(07:42:57 PM) Private-859: O no!!! blue screen of death on my vista box!
(07:42:58 PM) Slinky-4720: ogres don't have layers
(07:42:59 PM) monkeyluis: yes did you watch shrek??
(07:43:00 PM) warcow105: eric, what processor do you have?
(07:43:13 PM) mbhavaraju: press Ctrl Z
(07:43:18 PM) eric-8560: Celeron D 2.4GHz
(07:43:21 PM) warcow105: and what graphics card
(07:43:29 PM) Slinky-4720: shrek is certainly not the definitive source on ogres
(07:43:39 PM) monkeyluis: ogre's are people too, or are they? thought provoking.
(07:43:40 PM) eric-8560: 1Gig RAM, 256MB video Nivida 6200
(07:44:04 PM) Fraggan: ey GOLD :D
(07:44:07 PM) eric-8560: so I'm guessing my CPU usage is rather high then?
(07:44:12 PM) Dex-2146: not bad :D
(07:44:30 PM) faalagorn2: i dont understand much about computer
(07:44:34 PM) faalagorn2: better study more
(07:44:41 PM) Dosbomber: Color adjust layer, maybe
(07:44:51 PM) thiebaude-3373 is now known as thiebaude-2043
(07:44:52 PM) Slinky-4720: ogres are not people
(07:44:56 PM) thiebaude-2043: cool
(07:45:00 PM) Slinky-4720: they are goblinoids
(07:45:03 PM) faalagorn2: do u play warcraft?
(07:45:10 PM) faalagorn2: there is orc race
(07:45:14 PM) Dex-2146: ah warcraft is for kids
(07:45:21 PM) Slinky-4720: orc is also a goblinoid race
(07:45:23 PM) warcow105: eric, i would say it is prob a combo of your card and processor...i only have a nvidia 6600, but my quadcore takes up the slack, it nearly maxes out one of my cores when i dual monitor with my 56" hdtv and run the broadcast fullscreen
(07:45:23 PM) Dex-2146: play hard go pro and play EU
(07:45:32 PM) alexander: if some of you want to learn more about gimp: Here are very cool Tutorials for Gimp:
(07:45:32 PM) alexander: http://feeds.feedburner.com/meetthegimp
(07:45:37 PM) Slinky-4720: <---- still has the first warcraft on CD
(07:45:38 PM) MindBuster: ogre is a 3D renderer http://www.ogre3d.org/
(07:45:47 PM) faalagorn2: i like warcraft
(07:46:19 PM) eric-8560: it's certainly not overly slow though.. Everything runs fine. Is that hurting my PC though, it being that hihg?
(07:46:20 PM) Slinky-4720: wait, i'm wrong... ogres are giantkin
(07:46:27 PM) warcow105: no
(07:46:44 PM) warcow105: never...only if your temps are high is there anything to worry about
(07:47:07 PM) Jose_327 [ustreamer-@dev-20BBBB29.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] entered the room.
(07:47:07 PM) mode (+v Jose_327) by c.ustream.tv
(07:47:21 PM) eric-8560: Nope, my GPU is at 47C and I don't know what my mobo is.. Thank you for the help though
(07:47:28 PM) warcow105: i leave mine runing folding at home 24-7 maxing out all four cores but my temps are low so it doesnt matter
(07:47:52 PM) warcow105: the gpu is safe as long as it stays below 100c
(07:47:54 PM) ustreamer-34434 [ustreamer-@dev-1D85406E.indy.res.rr.com] entered the room.
(07:47:55 PM) ajamison: Ogres are like oinions they have layers
(07:48:05 PM) Slinky-4720: ogres do not have layers
(07:48:05 PM) thiebaude-2043: hi robbie
(07:48:06 PM) Rockbuddy [Rockbuddy@dev-36C63919.cfl.res.rr.com] entered the room.
(07:48:06 PM) mode (+v Rockbuddy) by c.ustream.tv
(07:48:08 PM) eric-8560: I've never seen it bump 50 yet..
(07:48:12 PM) Dex-2146: woooooooooooooot
(07:48:12 PM) domchristopher-5619: Robbie, so when are we going to hear about this scavenger hunt?
(07:48:13 PM) Slinky-4720: chop one in half, and you'll see
(07:48:30 PM) eric-8560: thank you warco
(07:48:36 PM) eric-8560: *warcow
(07:48:36 PM) warcow105: no prob man
(07:48:38 PM) monkeyluis: format and reinstall
(07:48:46 PM) xxUriahxx: im mr T and I got a night elf mohawk
(07:48:57 PM) micke: install ubuntu
(07:49:04 PM) Slinky-4720: Carrie, what kind of PC he has would tell us where he could get the restore CD from
(07:49:06 PM) monkeyluis: format reinstall ubuntu
(07:49:14 PM) ajamison: ditch windows
(07:49:19 PM) ajamison: back up documents
(07:49:20 PM) Private-859: yupp! Install Ubuntu!
(07:49:29 PM) thiebaude-2043: i only have ubuntu on my system
(07:49:31 PM) ajamison: the virus will not transfer
(07:49:32 PM) JackAncientONeill: do a windows repair to put the system files back
(07:49:35 PM) xxUriahxx: windoze is bootleg
(07:49:51 PM) filkay: Robbie - This is probably a topic for research first: Can you show how to connect Access to a MySQL database?
(07:49:53 PM) warcow105: download a copy of windows, but use your license key...that is perfectly legal
(07:50:05 PM) Fraggan: put the disk in another computer and run a virusscan
(07:50:05 PM) domchristopher-5619: he could download it... It wouldn't be illegal if he purchased a license
(07:50:07 PM) xxUriahxx: start living in a world without barriers and wall, windows or gates...
(07:50:07 PM) eric-8560: I can't believe you have to run 4 programs just to keep the OS running.. Can't believe it
(07:50:12 PM) Slinky-4720: spybot, adaware, spysweeper, pest patrol, spyware doctor. in that order.
(07:50:16 PM) monkeyluis: put some antibacterial ointment on it.
(07:50:26 PM) alexander: and rootkit reavealer
(07:50:33 PM) Private-859: I got a new disk for XP for my dell box, and your vendor may send you a new!
(07:50:38 PM) Slinky-4720: Robbie, NO
(07:50:40 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: Robbie i have a question, i use a g4 tower at work to image other macs via fire wire. is 10 mb/s normal or slow for a average transfer speed
(07:50:44 PM) thiebaude-2043 is now known as thiebaude-4486
(07:51:03 PM) Slinky-4720: Robbie, you need the RIGHT CD for the RIGHT CD-key
(07:51:12 PM) monkeyluis: no, you can use any CD
(07:51:13 PM) ustreamer-98082 [ustreamer-@dev-1720736C.su.shawcable.net] entered the room.
(07:51:13 PM) Slinky-4720: that's slow dude
(07:51:18 PM) Slinky-4720: no, you can't
(07:51:21 PM) monkeyluis: i have done this before.
(07:51:24 PM) Jot: with windows, you can not use any cd
(07:51:34 PM) warcow105: an xp key will work with any xp cd
(07:51:35 PM) monkeyluis: i just did it last week.
(07:51:35 PM) thiebaude-4486: i use to use any cd too,i have a key
(07:51:41 PM) Jot: there are OEM-cds, retail-cds, and another type
(07:51:45 PM) Slinky-4720: a CD key for XP SP1 will be rejected by a XP SP2 CD
(07:51:54 PM) monkeyluis: i used an OEM cd i bought off of zipzoomfly.com
(07:52:03 PM) Faalagorn: XD
(07:52:09 PM) Faalagorn: You ARE PERFECT <3
(07:52:13 PM) JackAncientONeill: volume license
(07:52:13 PM) warcow105: only if the key is a known leaked pirate key and they made it bad
(07:52:13 PM) Slinky-4720: a Dell CD will work with an HP computer, but the CD keys NEED to be from the right version
(07:52:27 PM) Slinky-4720: no
(07:52:30 PM) thiebaude-4486: i have a xp and 2000 pro cd
(07:52:39 PM) Jot: Robbie, you are perfect, in your own mind. Now take those pills and wait for those nice men in white coats to give you a nice coat with very long sleeves
(07:52:43 PM) thiebaude-4486: but have no need for them, lol
(07:52:56 PM) thiebaude-4486: hi robbie
(07:52:58 PM) JackAncientONeill: lol
(07:53:03 PM) Slinky-4720: OEM cd needs to match the cd-key
(07:53:10 PM) thiebaude-4486: haha
(07:53:18 PM) thiebaude-4486: north carolina
(07:53:25 PM) JackAncientONeill: me and Jot will pvp u all!haha
(07:53:25 PM) Slinky-4720: a SP2 XP OEM CD will NOT work with an OEM SP1 key
(07:53:28 PM) thiebaude-4486: live in nc but from va
(07:53:32 PM) Jot: me? I'm from the netherlands
(07:53:36 PM) JackAncientONeill: me
(07:53:37 PM) alexander: me
(07:53:37 PM) mbhavaraju: ME
(07:53:38 PM) chinkink: Me!
(07:53:39 PM) thiebaude-4486: i'am robbie
(07:53:41 PM) ustreamer-3111: me
(07:53:43 PM) monkeyluis: 2nd time
(07:53:45 PM) eric-8560: vendor has to match too. Can't use a gateway cd for a dell box
(07:53:46 PM) monkeyluis: orlando, fl
(07:53:47 PM) Jamhot: 1ST TIME HERE
(07:53:47 PM) domchristopher-5619: me
(07:53:48 PM) JackAncientONeill: I am from England
(07:53:49 PM) popey: First time for me, from the UK
(07:53:50 PM) ustreamer-34434: 1st time here
(07:53:53 PM) Dex-2146: im here for the first time and im from austria/europe :)
(07:53:53 PM) domchristopher-5619: Oregon, US
(07:53:56 PM) thiebaude-4486: i got the link to your site from alan pope
(07:53:56 PM) Slinky-4720: yes you can eric
(07:53:56 PM) Faalagorn: I'm here 1st time
(07:53:57 PM) alexander: me from germany
(07:53:59 PM) ReadBird: First time watching, from Norway
(07:53:59 PM) Jamhot: Manchester England
(07:53:59 PM) Kaczus: 1st time here from poland
(07:54:03 PM) CarrieW: Wow! welcome everyone!
(07:54:03 PM) Faalagorn: From Poland xD
(07:54:05 PM) Jose_327: i got several of them
(07:54:06 PM) eric-8560: I can't
(07:54:06 PM) Slinky-4720: as long as it's a windows cd, and not a restore CD
(07:54:07 PM) Faalagorn: xDxD
(07:54:09 PM) ustreamer-92880: first time uk
(07:54:09 PM) Faalagorn: Hej Kaczus ^^
(07:54:15 PM) faalagorn2: i also first time
(07:54:17 PM) Jose_327: knew they were bogus
(07:54:20 PM) Private-859: I am here from Norway, fist time Live! Its soon 2 at nigth!
(07:54:21 PM) ustreamer-45830 [ustreamer-@dev-1D85406E.indy.res.rr.com] entered the room.
(07:54:26 PM) Slinky-4720: gateway\emachines and toshiba use restore cds, not oem windows cds
(07:54:29 PM) faalagorn2: i'm from amethera
(07:54:29 PM) Haxtor_Moogle: first time NY usa
(07:54:30 PM) eric-8560: gotcha.. I don't remember.. sorry
(07:54:38 PM) eric-8560: sorry for the mis info
(07:54:39 PM) Box: ok.. start from the begining.. iam back...hahahaha
(07:54:42 PM) thiebaude-4486: watch out for pay pal
(07:54:43 PM) ustreamer-36194: Lawrenceville, Ga
(07:54:44 PM) faalagorn2: amethra, shinnok jungle here
(07:54:46 PM) Slinky-4720: NJ baby
(07:54:47 PM) MindBuster: get thousands of those emails
(07:54:48 PM) ustreamer-10191 [ustreamer-@dev-452310C.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] entered the room.
(07:55:11 PM) Slinky-4720: and you NYers... stay in your state!
(07:55:17 PM) mbhavaraju: It's hard to patch my Mustach..
(07:55:21 PM) ajamison: when in doubt you can forward it to spoof@paypal.com
(07:55:25 PM) micke: Hellå Norway ... i am form sweden
(07:55:35 PM) Dosbomber: At the very least, hold your mouse over the link and see where it really points to in your status bar.. usually it's directly to an IP address, NOT the link shown in the email
(07:55:35 PM) CarrieW: Lawrenceville, where is that?
(07:55:41 PM) ustreamer-98082: Sorry new to the chat Just a quick question I purchased the full set for Hardy heron checked my downloaded disk one corupt file . It works but I can't seem to get it to fully load into my hard drive . It seems to freeze at some point and the disk I ordered haven't worked yet . What should I do next
(07:55:53 PM) Jot: Robbie, a normal email-program will not 'render'email as anything but text, and so will never show URLS, pictures, and so on
(07:55:57 PM) ustreamer-10191: hey, guys i am is stl
(07:55:58 PM) Faalagorn: Always look for the valid certificate
(07:56:00 PM) Jose_327: very good advice
(07:56:04 PM) Private-859 is now known as NorwayTux
(07:56:07 PM) Dex-2146: <censored> phising sites/mails
(07:56:09 PM) monkeyluis: google.com is evil too
(07:56:19 PM) ajamison: forward them to Spoof@paypal.com so they can take that one down
(07:56:19 PM) NorwayTux: Tjenare!
(07:56:20 PM) thiebaude-4486: gmail is great
(07:56:27 PM) Faalagorn: Enter link manually, or the best, use your bookmark.
(07:56:29 PM) MindBuster: User: g0fuk Pass:urself
(07:56:33 PM) Faalagorn: And only then login ^^
(07:56:33 PM) thiebaude-4486: hi alan
(07:56:33 PM) Dosbomber: eBay is another target of those emails.. keep an eye on any unexpected emails from eBay.
(07:56:44 PM) monkeyluis: orlando, fl!!!!!
(07:56:45 PM) eric-8560: I'm from Indiana.. I'm new also..
(07:56:45 PM) chaslinux: You can always do a whois on that URL
(07:56:46 PM) Jose_327: yep
(07:56:49 PM) Fraggan: 2am here too...*yawn*
(07:56:49 PM) ustreamer-34434 left the room (quit: Ping timeout).
(07:56:55 PM) ustreamer-10191: how do update Global Address List
(07:57:00 PM) Fraggan: ey sweden :D
(07:57:03 PM) NorwayTux is now known as PrivateTux
(07:57:04 PM) eric-8560: Fort Wayne Indiana.. Betcha ya'll don't know where that's at
(07:57:05 PM) faalagorn2: he who want ask important question bbeter use coloured words like this
(07:57:14 PM) ustreamer-6908 [ustreamer-@dev-D346DA02.static.dsl.dodo.com.au] entered the room.
(07:57:14 PM) ustreamer-10191: this is my first time on, I am Abdiel
(07:57:15 PM) faalagorn2: so robbie can know
(07:57:15 PM) ustreamer-45830: I do eric ;)
(07:57:17 PM) faalagorn2: hehe
(07:57:17 PM) filkay: Bradford, ON - longtime watcher !
(07:57:18 PM) xxUriahxx: long island ny yeah
(07:57:20 PM) Faalagorn: What about me TT.TT
(07:57:24 PM) mbhavaraju: Robbie.. I was successfully configured my Synergy today.. its working great.. Thanks for introducing Synergy to me
(07:57:26 PM) xxUriahxx: 8 weeks in
(07:57:27 PM) Faalagorn: 1st time, Poland xD
(07:57:28 PM) eric-8560: Wow.. one person.. Shocker
(07:57:29 PM) Dex-2146: lol
(07:57:31 PM) Slinky-4720: you stay away from NJ too!
(07:57:39 PM) ustreamer-42162 [ustreamer-@dev-C9AF32F7.cable.mindspring.com] entered the room.
(07:57:42 PM) ustreamer-6908: my first watch as well Im in Darwin Australia
(07:57:51 PM) Faalagorn: np xD
(07:57:57 PM) thiebaude-4486: robbie i loved migrating to ubuntu
(07:58:00 PM) CarrieW: welcome first-timers!
(07:58:00 PM) PrivateTux: Thankfully I am not getting up before 10
(07:58:01 PM) Jot: Robbie, and you and Carrie still look so young and preTTY!
(07:58:39 PM) eric-8560: I'm a win95 gen user.. Yahoo was king back then
(07:58:42 PM) Jamhot: www.JamhotTelevision.com
(07:58:44 PM) Jamhot: ;)
(07:58:47 PM) Dex-2146: lol
(07:58:55 PM) Jamhot: i wouldn't be me if i didn't
(07:58:59 PM) Jamhot: *shrugs
(07:59:03 PM) Jamhot: :D
(07:59:08 PM) monkeyluis: is that like bucks? what's ped?
(07:59:11 PM) ustreamer-6908: no you wouldnt be Jamhot
(07:59:15 PM) monkeyluis: is it a canadian thing?
(07:59:18 PM) thiebaude-4486: entropia money
(07:59:20 PM) Dex-2146: ped is entropua currency
(07:59:22 PM) thiebaude-4486: lol
(07:59:24 PM) monkeyluis: oh
(07:59:25 PM) monkeyluis: lol
(07:59:27 PM) Fraggan: bye all...bed time
(07:59:30 PM) Dex-2146: 0 usd = 100 ped
(07:59:33 PM) PrivateTux: I can`t use Miro in ubuntu it stops when I try to play videos
(07:59:34 PM) Dex-2146: 0
(07:59:39 PM) Dex-2146: lol
(07:59:40 PM) mbhavaraju: who is number 1?
(07:59:44 PM) thiebaude-4486: usa
(07:59:51 PM) Kaczus: Anyone knows a good alternative to glipper? it crashes with synergy, heard that kde equivalent doesn't but it's kde ;]
(07:59:53 PM) ustreamer-45830: Rex helped bring people here Robbie
(07:59:57 PM) alexander: klipper
(08:00:01 PM) alexander: klipper-kde4
(08:00:02 PM) filkay: KDE rocks!
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(08:00:08 PM) xxUriahxx: I can`t use Miro in ubuntu it stops when I try to play videos - mine does that sometimes also
(08:00:10 PM) popey: good show Robbie / CarrieW - good work
(08:00:11 PM) Slinky-4720: robbie, do we have to be at the party to win that PSU?
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(08:00:15 PM) thiebaude-4486: i love fluxbox with ubuntu
(08:00:17 PM) Jose_327: bye
(08:00:21 PM) thiebaude-4486: see ya
(08:00:22 PM) chaslinux: Oh, don't forget Software Freedom Day..
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(08:00:24 PM) ustreamer-98082: Sorry new to the chat Just a quick question I purchased the full set for Hardy heron checked my downloaded disk one corupt file . It works but I can't seem to get it to fully load into my hard drive . It seems to freeze at some point and the disk I ordered haven't worked yet . What should I do next
(08:00:25 PM) PrivateTux: Bye Robby and Carry!
(08:00:25 PM) monkeyluis: bye
(08:00:26 PM) warcow105: good show guys!! gtg, new episode of house is on
(08:00:26 PM) Jamhot: goodnight thaks Robbie n Carrie
(08:00:26 PM) Dosbomber: Fun show as always
(08:00:35 PM) mbhavaraju: thanks both of you and rest of the roomies.. Enjoyed..
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(08:00:37 PM) Dex-2146: bye bye
(08:00:37 PM) xxUriahxx: good show
(08:00:39 PM) Jamhot: good night everyone
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(08:00:45 PM) ustreamer-10191: great show
(08:00:46 PM) alexander: yeahh good night
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(08:00:48 PM) ustreamer-6908: nn all
(08:00:49 PM) ustreamer-10191: ttyl
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(08:00:55 PM) CarrieW: thanks for joining us in the chat room!
(08:00:56 PM) thiebaude-4486: good night ppl
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(08:00:58 PM) Mdemi: Great Show Robbie & Carrie!
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(08:01:17 PM) Jot: 100 pec=1 ped, 10 ped=1 us$ so 1000 ped=100 US$
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(08:01:22 PM) Mdemi: bye everyone:)
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(08:01:49 PM) Dosbomber: Great show.. now I gotta go back to fighting with jcwhitney.com. :P
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(08:02:06 PM) Slinky-4720: jcwhitney? you bought from them?
(08:02:12 PM) Dosbomber: Trying to
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(08:02:21 PM) Slinky-4720: i've been advised against it
(08:02:34 PM) Dosbomber: Can't find my rear hatch supports
(08:02:41 PM) Slinky-4720: by many car guys, professional and hobbyists
(08:02:49 PM) CarrieW: Don't forget to come to our 1st anniversary part-ay! Here in Barrie on September 23rd!
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(08:03:08 PM) popey: CarrieW: wish I could, bit of a trek from the UK though :)
(08:03:18 PM) Slinky-4720: what kind of car?
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(08:03:25 PM) Jot: so, where is the scavenger hunt?
(08:03:26 PM) Robbie: Thanks everyone!!
(08:03:31 PM) Robbie: www.Category5.tv
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(08:03:38 PM) Dosbomber: Sounds like a great time, but I'm not leaving the USA.. knowing how the TSA and Customs are, they might not let me back in. :P
(08:03:43 PM) CarrieW: just catch a plane popey!
(08:03:47 PM) popey: heh
(08:03:48 PM) Robbie: right on the front page
(08:03:51 PM) CarrieW: Just kidding, we so appreciate you watching
(08:04:00 PM) Slinky-4720: i don't even have a passport
(08:04:06 PM) Jot: Carrie, pay for the plane etc and i will come :)
(08:04:08 PM) popey: CarrieW / Robbie I'll be over in Mountain View in December for the Ubuntu Developer Summit, you should come down :)
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(08:04:27 PM) ajamison: yeah TSA is baaaaad
(08:04:37 PM) CarrieW: Popey, what is that?
(08:04:48 PM) Slinky-4720: i'd love to come to the party (to get that 650 watter) but that's a long drive
(08:04:49 PM) popey: Its where they plan out what goes in the next version of Ubuntu
(08:05:01 PM) popey: possibly more Robbies bag than yours :)
(08:05:04 PM) Ross-1454: id love to make it but driving from iowa would be a bit much
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(08:05:12 PM) CarrieW: where are you from Slinky?
(08:05:16 PM) Slinky-4720: NJ
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(08:05:29 PM) Slinky-4720: it'd be a 10 hour drive, minimum
(08:05:30 PM) Faalagorn: So Robbie, you play EU too, right?
(08:05:37 PM) Faalagorn: I'm kinda confused ^^
(08:05:57 PM) Slinky-4720: and Trans Ams aren't that great on gas
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(08:06:13 PM) Slinky-4720: but i should still get the power supply! my car was made in canada!
(08:06:18 PM) Robbie: Just started, Faalagorn. They contacted me to do a review. In order to do the review, I have to try it... so for 4 weeks (since the interview with John), I've been playing.
(08:06:20 PM) Jot: Robbie does play, Faalagorn
(08:06:41 PM) Robbie: I am an incredible N00b though ;)
(08:06:53 PM) Jot: Yeah! Robbies nickname is N00b Robbie
(08:07:01 PM) ajamison: u going to stop after the review period
(08:07:12 PM) Robbie: However, I have 30 PED and haven't deposited a cent or sold anything that was given to me.
(08:07:15 PM) ajamison: Robbie
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(08:07:41 PM) Robbie: ajamison... to be honest, probably not. I'm going to become "more anonymous", but I think I'll keep playing; I'm really having a lot of fun, and I love the people.
(08:08:09 PM) Slinky-4720: if he didn't have to boot to XP to play, he might stay. lol
(08:08:23 PM) popey: nn all see you next week
(08:09:49 PM) Slinky-4720: Robbie, as i was saying, there's a linux version of Neverwinter Nights
(08:09:58 PM) Robbie: wonderbar
(08:09:58 PM) Faalagorn: So you're better than me, I'm playing not even 2 weeks for now and don't have any live cash beside my equip ^^
(08:10:11 PM) Robbie: my next quest will be to make EU work on linux... I'm just thinking I might wait until Cry Engine
(08:10:24 PM) Slinky-4720: and many people have pushed the technology to the edge, and have created small, privately owned MMORPGs with it
(08:10:36 PM) Robbie: Faalagorn, I think as a business owner, I have a keen understanding of buying/selling...
(08:10:40 PM) ajamison: how are you going to be more annoynimus
(08:10:41 PM) Robbie: so I make good money off it
(08:10:43 PM) ajamison: change your name
(08:10:46 PM) Robbie: probably.
(08:11:08 PM) Faalagorn: Did you made any Linux ports yet?
(08:11:10 PM) ajamison: lol so you can not be bothered
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(08:11:24 PM) ajamison: u can not port what you do not have access to
(08:11:25 PM) Faalagorn: Porting EU would be so cool that... I can't even say a word xD
(08:11:25 PM) Slinky-4720: EU can't be ported to Linux
(08:11:32 PM) ajamison: it can
(08:11:36 PM) Faalagorn: Because of Cry2?
(08:11:36 PM) Slinky-4720: no, it can't
(08:11:37 PM) ajamison: if they wanted it to
(08:11:47 PM) Slinky-4720: they're running DirectX engines
(08:11:52 PM) ajamison: they can make a linux capable cry2 engine
(08:11:54 PM) Faalagorn: It's propetiary, and DirectX, but I don't know details
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(08:11:58 PM) ajamison: it has been done
(08:12:10 PM) ajamison: or at least release patches to make it run in wine
(08:12:15 PM) Slinky-4720: CryEngine2 is a DirectX 3D engine, not OpenGL
(08:12:20 PM) _ is now known as NotRockbuddy
(08:12:33 PM) Slinky-4720: a DirectX10 engine, specifically
(08:12:37 PM) Faalagorn: Maybe they decide to keep both engines, same as Ultima did
(08:12:41 PM) Faalagorn: There is 2D and 3D
(08:12:45 PM) Faalagorn: (Ultima Online)
(08:13:02 PM) CarrieW: Is anyone in the chat room coming on the 23rd?
(08:13:08 PM) Slinky-4720: i think the GameBryo engine is also only DX
(08:13:19 PM) Slinky-4720: no... too far to drive Carrie
(08:13:31 PM) CarrieW: Don't forget to register at Category5.tv
(08:13:42 PM) Robbie: Yeah I wish everyone could be here for the anniversary. It's really all about you guys.
(08:13:42 PM) ajamison: Slinky they can still make it work in wine
(08:13:48 PM) ajamison: companies have done that
(08:14:02 PM) Faalagorn: But, isn't the Unreal Engine 2 DX too?
(08:14:11 PM) ajamison: well host it in a central place next time lol
(08:14:11 PM) Slinky-4720: running DX in wine takes a powerful computer
(08:14:13 PM) CarrieW: Prizes Prizes Prizes! So cool that I don't even know what they do!
(08:14:25 PM) Slinky-4720: i think Unreal is OpenGL
(08:14:27 PM) ajamison: not really i do it all the time and my computer sucks
(08:14:29 PM) Jot: we are here for you too Robbie, we couldn't see this show without you and Carrie
(08:15:11 PM) ajamison: the Point is Entropia could work on linux if they wanted to take the time to make an OpenGL back end
(08:15:12 PM) Robbie: :) Thanks. Well, it will obviously be broadcast live... I just wish I could give you all prizes :)
(08:15:23 PM) Slinky-4720: http://www.entropiaforum.com/forums/technical/61443-entropia-universe-linux-wine.html
(08:15:44 PM) Slinky-4720: yeah... i need a replacement PSU... my 550w FSP died this week. ='(
(08:15:52 PM) Robbie: awww
(08:15:57 PM) Robbie: this one is high-end
(08:15:59 PM) Robbie: $170
(08:16:13 PM) Slinky-4720: MindArk doesn't make the engine, they've just licensed it
(08:16:22 PM) chinkink: Have you been notified if any viewers are travelling long-distances to go to the anniversary, Robbie?
(08:16:38 PM) ajamison: i know but they can make an OpenGL port
(08:16:55 PM) ajamison: how else do DX games get ported to Mac
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(08:17:07 PM) ajamison: they have to do something DX is not a mac thing
(08:17:16 PM) Slinky-4720: if they need to license someone else's engine, chances are they're not even capable of making a port
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(08:17:31 PM) Slinky-4720: no, and that's why most games don't get ported to macs
(08:17:51 PM) ajamison: ok then Cry needs to make an openGL back end
(08:18:01 PM) ajamison: someone needs to make an OpenGL back end
(08:18:04 PM) Slinky-4720: tell Crytek that
(08:18:08 PM) ajamison: Robbie you up for it
(08:18:21 PM) ajamison: do some heavy duty coding for the peps here
(08:18:34 PM) Slinky-4720: they seem to be doing pretty well with what they've got, so i doubt they're going to make a change any time soon
(08:18:58 PM) ajamison: they might the Linux and Mac shares in the gaming community and desktop community are climbing
(08:19:06 PM) ajamison: so they may see a need to do it later
(08:19:40 PM) Slinky-4720: unlikely
(08:19:46 PM) Slinky-4720: gamers won't go mac
(08:19:50 PM) ajamison: ok true but one can hope
(08:19:58 PM) Slinky-4720: they don't want to be tied down to proprietary hardware
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(08:20:29 PM) Slinky-4720: and certainly don't want to pay Apple prices for the same ATI card that costs half the price if bought for a PC
(08:20:30 PM) ajamison: alot of the hardware for macs is identical to a PC now that they run on intel
(08:20:51 PM) Slinky-4720: yes, the hardware is, but the software isn't
(08:20:59 PM) Slinky-4720: Apple controls what is and is not supported
(08:21:48 PM) Faalagorn: Can i ask the question anout the quest here?
(08:21:55 PM) ajamison: Apple would work something out especialy if it ment taking some of the gaming market from Windoze
(08:21:55 PM) Faalagorn: about*
(08:22:15 PM) Slinky-4720: if they were going to, they'd have done it by now
(08:22:17 PM) Robbie: Faalagorn, please use the official forum
(08:22:30 PM) Faalagorn: oh, ok
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(08:22:41 PM) Slinky-4720: Apple is too afraid that giving up control would turn OS X into the same bloated beast that windows is
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(08:23:00 PM) ajamison: lol
(08:23:07 PM) ajamison: nothing can match Windoze
(08:23:20 PM) ajamison: in bloatware
(08:24:06 PM) ajamison: I want someone to come out with an OS to challenge Windows and call is Doors
(08:24:09 PM) Slinky-4720: a poorly installed Linux distro can out-bloat windows
(08:24:51 PM) Slinky-4720: which usually means a n00b installing services that have no place on his PC
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(08:25:39 PM) ajamison: yeah but Linux takes time to master
(08:25:59 PM) Slinky-4720: as does windows
(08:26:00 PM) ajamison: I am probably about intermediate with regards to user knowledge
(08:26:17 PM) Slinky-4720: an OS needs to work for beginners
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(08:26:35 PM) ajamison: Windows takes time because you have to get over illegal operations and blue screens
(08:26:47 PM) Slinky-4720: Microsoft *IS* partially responsible for affordable computers
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(08:27:25 PM) Slinky-4720: i've been running the same install of XP since 2002, with no problems, except the lockups caused by an overheating video card
(08:27:38 PM) ajamison: Apple is responsible for the Personal Computer end of story MS stole the gui idea just like their expressions suite is trying to do with CS line from Adobe
(08:27:54 PM) Slinky-4720: Apple stole the gui from Xerox
(08:28:10 PM) ajamison: not stole bought
(08:28:23 PM) ajamison: they asked if they could use it and Xerox gave it to them
(08:28:23 PM) Slinky-4720: not bought, setlled.
(08:28:31 PM) Slinky-4720: they stole it, then settled in court
(08:28:43 PM) ajamison: Xerox at the time thought it to be a lost cause
(08:29:16 PM) Slinky-4720: that doesn't change the fact that Xerox created it, not Apple
(08:29:50 PM) ajamison: yeah but i mean Apple got it through leagal channels windows came about through steeling
(08:30:00 PM) Faalagorn: OK, I'll be leaving to do the quest ^^
(08:30:08 PM) Faalagorn: Take careguys/gals ^^
(08:30:13 PM) Faalagorn: cya
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(08:30:26 PM) Slinky-4720: no, apple stole it, then settled in court
(08:30:39 PM) Slinky-4720: big difference
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(08:31:22 PM) Slinky-4720: now, if Microsoft also settled with Xerox, the "stole from apple" claim becomes completely bogus
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(08:32:34 PM) ajamison: i suppose
(08:32:38 PM) Slinky-4720: why is it nobody accuses MIT of stealing the X windows concept?
(08:33:14 PM) ajamison: because people hate MS
(08:33:26 PM) Slinky-4720: of course
(08:33:33 PM) Slinky-4720: because it's cool to hate MS
(08:33:53 PM) ajamison: I hate them because their <censored> never works for me
(08:33:54 PM) ajamison: lol
(08:34:10 PM) Slinky-4720: Linux users will never admit how much they owe to the Wintel world
(08:34:31 PM) ajamison: still that being said
(08:34:43 PM) Slinky-4720: most of them have never seen the pre-95 days
(08:34:48 PM) ajamison: Linux took a bloated <censored> POS and made it better
(08:35:14 PM) Slinky-4720: when HP, IBM, DEC, SGI, etc, overcharged and everything was proprietary
(08:35:42 PM) ajamison: yeah i rember
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(08:35:43 PM) Robbie: That said, Windows users owe a lot to Mac and Linux for forcing Windows to finally start making a sexy gui.
(08:35:47 PM) Slinky-4720: Linux took the ideas behind Unix, and created a free OS
(08:35:59 PM) Robbie: Their attempt is called Vista; a complete flop... but it's pushing them to bigger/better things
(08:36:28 PM) ajamison: hey Robbie what do you think of thie Mojave experiment garbage in the vista commercials
(08:36:40 PM) ajamison: could not knowing it is vista make that much of a difference
(08:36:46 PM) Slinky-4720: yes
(08:36:46 PM) Robbie: haven't seen them ajamison... maybe region specific
(08:37:18 PM) Slinky-4720: http://www.microsoft.com/nz/digitallife/software/mojave_experiment_windows_vista.mspx
(08:37:39 PM) Slinky-4720: i know a lot of people who run Vista, and are perfectly happy with it
(08:37:39 PM) ajamison: they basicaly took Vista and changed the name on one instance to mojave and supposedly the people that used it thought it was great then they were told it was vista
(08:37:54 PM) Robbie: hahaha
(08:38:00 PM) ajamison: I have no problem with vista just i think that commercial is stupid
(08:38:21 PM) Slinky-4720: i was at the tech bench on vista's launch date... i remember what the problems were
(08:38:33 PM) ajamison: but they polled only 22% apple users 1% linux users and the rest were allready windows users
(08:38:49 PM) Slinky-4720: and it was ALL 3rd party, except the stupid IPv6
(08:38:54 PM) ajamison: so the results could be said it was stacked
(08:39:33 PM) Slinky-4720: you could, but you'd have to back up that claim
(08:40:02 PM) ajamison: * 84% Windows XP users
(08:40:02 PM) ajamison: * 22% Apple OS users
(08:40:02 PM) ajamison: * 14% Other Windows (Pre-XP) users
(08:40:02 PM) ajamison: * 1% Linux users
(08:40:05 PM) ajamison: there you go
(08:40:10 PM) ajamison: straight from their site
(08:40:21 PM) ajamison: that was the percentage of people they polled
(08:40:39 PM) Slinky-4720: although Gnome has gotten nicer over the last few years, it could be that most people Microsoft contacted said they used Linux only on servers, straight from the GLI
(08:40:43 PM) Slinky-4720: *CLI
(08:40:44 PM) ajamison: that means only 23% of the users they polled did not use windows
(08:41:09 PM) Slinky-4720: no it doesn't
(08:41:15 PM) Slinky-4720: read under those numbers
(08:41:36 PM) Slinky-4720: some users used multiple platforms
(08:42:02 PM) Slinky-4720: 84 + 22 + 14 + 1 = 121
(08:43:05 PM) ajamison: still stacked
(08:43:20 PM) Slinky-4720: how so?
(08:43:40 PM) ajamison: 98% were windows users regardless
(08:44:44 PM) ajamison: i am just saying why did MS go so far to try and prove that vista was so good if in fact it runs fine it is not like they lost any sales
(08:45:10 PM) ajamison: then they should not have had to defend it
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(08:45:59 PM) Slinky-4720: maybe because the mac ads are openly attacking vista?
(08:46:15 PM) ajamison: lol yeah that is true
(08:46:23 PM) Slinky-4720: have you ever used windows?
(08:46:29 PM) ajamison: of course
(08:46:33 PM) ajamison: I have vista
(08:46:42 PM) ajamison: need it for School
(08:46:42 PM) Slinky-4720: which versions?
(08:46:54 PM) ajamison: I have used every version from 3.1 up
(08:47:09 PM) ajamison: including ME
(08:47:28 PM) Slinky-4720: which means you'd fit into the 84%, the 1%, and the 14%
(08:47:32 PM) ajamison: I did not start using linux till about 2 years ago
(08:48:15 PM) Slinky-4720: then you missed the "fun times"
(08:48:31 PM) Slinky-4720: i like the current incarnation of Gnome. a lot
(08:48:39 PM) ajamison: yes to the 84 and 1 % but not the 14% because i was not using that when the poll was taken
(08:48:44 PM) ajamison: yes
(08:48:44 PM) Slinky-4720: but it hasn't looked this good for that long
(08:48:49 PM) ajamison: I like gnome
(08:48:56 PM) ajamison: tried KDE once or twice
(08:49:03 PM) ajamison: it is just to confusing
(08:49:19 PM) Slinky-4720: i think KDE still isn't ready to compete for the desktop market
(08:49:39 PM) Slinky-4720: i also dislike Sun's Java Desktop, and prefer Solaris with Gnome
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(08:50:56 PM) Slinky-4720: but they all beat using X straight
(08:53:52 PM) Slinky-4720: i think i started playing with Linux with Red Hat 6 or 7
(08:54:27 PM) ajamison: cool well i need to get ready for school it starts tommorrow so I am going to go
(08:54:36 PM) Slinky-4720: have fun
(08:54:52 PM) ajamison: lol i will try
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(08:55:56 PM) Slinky-4720: Robbie, do you remember that funny, colorful, 3D filesystem in the movie Jurassic Park?
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(09:07:47 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: G'Evening all - Just finished the schoolwork for the day and have a moment to join in the fun
(09:08:25 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: Being a college student at age 50 is super fun!
(09:09:11 PM) Slinky-4720: you probably appreciate the experience more than the kids
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(09:09:31 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: Yep
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(09:10:47 PM) Slinky-4720: and maybe you even remember linux before it was "sexy". lol
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(09:11:02 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: and get propositioned at least once a week by a single desperate female instructor!
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(09:11:23 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: yep - still have a red hat 4 cd here somewhwere
(09:11:33 PM) Slinky-4720: <censored>!
(09:11:37 PM) Slinky-4720: i started with 6
(09:11:51 PM) Slinky-4720: genuine unixes?
(09:13:17 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: yep - worked with aix, hp-ux, irix, solaris, and several mainframe languages all at the same time back in the 90's
(09:13:51 PM) Slinky-4720: you may appreciate my babies
(09:14:07 PM) Slinky-4720: i've a pair of DEC AlphaServer 4100s downstairs
(09:14:09 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: ibm360, ibm370, ibm390
(09:14:43 PM) Slinky-4720: got to use an AS/400 briefly at the last job
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(09:15:00 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: cool - but i want a pdp-8 or pdp11 to play with again
(09:15:32 PM) Slinky-4720: if you lived in the UK, i could probably arrange it
(09:15:53 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: nope - i am stateside
(09:16:03 PM) Slinky-4720: same here
(09:16:14 PM) Slinky-4720: you might be able to get one cheap in MD
(09:16:19 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: BTW i am Ham Radio KB3EFS
(09:16:24 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: oh?
(09:16:35 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: i used to live in Beltsville
(09:16:50 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: I am in northern NY now
(09:16:56 PM) Slinky-4720: the Godard Space Center... they auction off old NASA equipment once a month
(09:17:12 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: yes i owrked there for a while
(09:17:14 PM) Slinky-4720: NY? stay there! stay away from jersey!
(09:17:17 PM) Slinky-4720: lol
(09:17:17 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: worked
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(09:17:47 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: they call jersey the swamp for a reason :D
(09:18:15 PM) Slinky-4720: we also have the only top 20 beach in the US on the eastern seaboard
(09:18:29 PM) Slinky-4720: and the biggest 6 flags park
(09:18:45 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: question for CarrieW if she is still awake
(09:19:04 PM) Slinky-4720: i think she and Robbie are AFK now
(09:19:06 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: yes my uncle has a place at barnegat light
(09:19:15 PM) Slinky-4720: nice
(09:19:15 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: ok
(09:20:05 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: probably doing post production work and posting to miro ect
(09:20:15 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: etc
(09:20:53 PM) Slinky-4720: Robbie might be playing EU
(09:21:02 PM) ustreamer-8589: no, he isn't at this time
(09:21:05 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: I need to get back on the list for the GSFC auctions
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(09:21:26 PM) Jot: they are probably trying to clean up around the prizes
(09:21:28 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: hey jot how r ya
(09:21:36 PM) Jot: hey :)
(09:21:39 PM) Slinky-4720: i WANT that PSU! lol
(09:22:19 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: what prizes?
(09:22:23 PM) Slinky-4720: my 550 watt died in my server recently... that 650 watt looks nice
(09:22:32 PM) Jot: prizes for the event next week they have at their studio-thingy
(09:22:36 PM) Slinky-4720: Robbie's throwing a 1 year anniversary party
(09:22:37 PM) Jot: watch the show, I would say :)
(09:23:00 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: oh okay - i have school that day
(09:23:32 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: http://www.canton.edu/csoet/alt_energy/
(09:23:37 PM) Slinky-4720: the joy of college... nobody gives a <censored> if you miss a class
(09:23:51 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: at this place they do!
(09:24:05 PM) Slinky-4720: weird
(09:24:46 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: but i am older than most of the proffesors and they all worry about my health
(09:24:58 PM) Slinky-4720: lol
(09:25:21 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: especially the single female profs
(09:25:22 PM) Slinky-4720: say you had a prostate exam scheduled that day... they'll drop it at that. lol
(09:27:18 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: already got an offer for one of those from a female anatomy prof last week - had to turn her down
(09:27:30 PM) Slinky-4720: lol
(09:29:02 PM) Jot: they probably just wanted to disect you anyway :)
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(09:32:07 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: i don't think so jot - they seem to want something else - but my being a student is a problem
(09:32:24 PM) Slinky-4720: only while you're in their class. ;-)
(09:32:25 PM) Jot: you will learn! Don't worry!
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(09:33:37 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: i have an idea what it is but this is a "G" rated site so I won't say
(09:34:44 PM) Slinky-4720: technically, you're in an IRC channel now. ;-)
(09:35:35 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: yes - but robbie is logging it all and archiving the logs publicly on the web
(09:35:49 PM) Jot: hello, world!
(09:37:09 PM) Slinky-4720: so i can read my argument with the other college kid later? awesome!
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(09:38:14 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: well I have about 100 pages to read in each of 3 textbooks so i best get going
(09:38:26 PM) Jot: good luck with that
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(09:38:41 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: due by 0800 thursday
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(09:40:54 PM) SolarGeekAndHam: g'nite all
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(09:41:10 PM) Jot: good night
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